World Cup: Canada-Russia semifinal pre game talk

[TLeafsFan]

The beauty of hockey my friend. I believe in Canada.

Go Canada Go!!

I will always BeLeaf, no matter what Leaf on the crest I'm cheering for.

GO CANADA GO!!!

 

[Yakushev72]

so what are the options. How would you ever figure out if somebody is getting close? How would other countries get other opportunities to beat them. Just to be satisfied by the Olympics every 4 years???

Unfortantely no other country could hold a world cup and sustain the interest that Canada can. hockey isn't soccer where you can hold a tournament almost on any continent and have it do well

If you want to figure out if someone is getting close, organize a fairer and more balanced competition. Don't hold what amounts to a Roman circus, where the Christians are fed to the lions (check out the home crowd tonight) in the home den of the overwhelming favorite. Don't form a hybrid team of the best 23 and below NHL superstars from 2 huge hockey countries to play against tiny European countries! This tournament is only designed to entertain Canadian fans and to have the obligatory post-game celebration and rioting! It's a staged victory party - don't call it a competition.

 

[snipes]

If you want to figure out if someone is getting close, organize a fairer and more balanced competition. Don't hold what amounts to a Roman circus, where the Christians are fed to the lions (check out the home crowd tonight) in the home den of the overwhelming favorite. Don't form a hybrid team of the best 23 and below NHL superstars from 2 huge hockey countries to play against tiny European countries! This tournament is only designed to entertain Canadian fans and to have the obligatory post-game celebration and rioting! It's a staged victory party - don't call it a competition.

Thanks for the laugh.

Canada =/= Rome.

 

[Bear12Good]

Many people in Canada will be watching this match?

 

[buttman*]

If you want to figure out if someone is getting close, organize a fairer and more balanced competition. Don't hold what amounts to a Roman circus, where the Christians are fed to the lions (check out the home crowd tonight) in the home den of the overwhelming favorite. Don't form a hybrid team of the best 23 and below NHL superstars from 2 huge hockey countries to play against tiny European countries! This tournament is only designed to entertain Canadian fans and to have the obligatory post-game celebration and rioting! It's a staged victory party - don't call it a competition.

You sound like a sore loser, yet, the game/tournament isn't even over.

 

[Tom Brady]

I must say I didn't expect Russia to reach semi final expecting a loss to Sweden and NA.

Now, it's the final for us. If we eliminate Canada, I don't even care if we win the trophy.

Are you gonna stop posting this video that was 8 years ago and it wasn't even on best on best . since 2010 Canada is 15-1 best on best, that one loss was in 2010 when Marty Brodeur laid an egg.

 

[Startseva]

Russia must win not for trophy... just to wipe off smiles of (some) arrogant Canadian fans. Because it's annoying, you know. But it's in your culture.

And in this sense that's why we are different.
If our team was much better than Canadian's... after a win our fans would say: ''Oh, we won just coz we got a better team, that's it''. Means it was not fair fight.

Just our history is full of wars and in our character is to respect the opponent. You have the right to look at someone from the top down only when helping him to stand up.
For Russians winning in a fight 10 on 10 is not a win. Real victory is when you alone without guns winning 10 armoured people. It's in our culture. And someone's arrogance is boiling my blood right now not because it's about my team. Because it's disrespect and you do not have moral right to be so (in my worldview). But as I said, we are different.



About the game itself. I was playing myself voleyball on a pro level for a little bit and I have one answer: it's professional sport. Anyone can win anyone. It can be big score, it can be not.
How the game will go today? Depends on the start. Russia must be patient, make not much mistakes, no letting them PP much, Bobrovsky stand like a wall. Then in the end of the 2d and in the 3d periods try to equalize the game using our best lines and using scoring chanses effectivly. So, all depends on the 1st and 2d periods.

And message to some Russian fans. If you do not belive in our team better go to sleep. But I know you belive! And thats why you will watch it! Then stop crying already before the game. Or go buy Canada t-shirt and sing their anthem.

 

[jj cale]

If you want to figure out if someone is getting close, organize a fairer and more balanced competition. Don't hold what amounts to a Roman circus, where the Christians are fed to the lions (check out the home crowd tonight) in the home den of the overwhelming favorite. Don't form a hybrid team of the best 23 and below NHL superstars from 2 huge hockey countries to play against tiny European countries! This tournament is only designed to entertain Canadian fans and to have the obligatory post-game celebration and rioting! It's a staged victory party - don't call it a competition.

What victory party? we have not won a damn thing yet.

Are you calling this Canada-Russia game over before it has even started?

Your team will have better fighting spirit then this. I know no Canadian fan or team would go into any KHL organized tournament thinking they are down and out, we don't roll that way.

We always think we can win.

 

[Bear12Good]

Are you gonna stop posting this video that was 8 years ago and it wasn't even on best on best . since 2010 Canada is 15-1 best on best, that one loss was in 2010 when Marty Brodeur laid an egg.

For Russia the world championship is an important tournament.

 

[jj cale]

Russia must win not for trophy... just to wipe off smiles of (some) arrogant Canadian fans. Because it's annoying, you know. But it's in your culture.

And in this sense that's why we are different.
If our team was much better than Canadian's... after a win our fans would say: ''Oh, we won just coz we got a better team, that's it''. Means it was not fair fight.

Just our history is full of wars and in our character is to respect the opponent. You have the right to look at someone from the top down only when helping him to stand up.
For Russians winning in a fight 10 on 10 is not a win. Real victory is when you alone without guns winning 10 armoured people. It's in our culture. And someone's arrogance is boiling my blood right now not because it's about my team. Because it's disrespect and you do not have moral right to be so (in my worldview). But as I said, we are different.



About the game itself. I was playing myself voleyball on a pro level for a little bit and I have one answer: it's professional sport. Anyone can win anyone. It can be big score, it can be not.
How the game will go today? Depends on the start. Russia must be patient, make not much mistakes, no letting them PP much, Bobrovsky stand like a wall. Then in the end of the 2d and in the 3d periods try to equalize the game using our best lines and using scoring chanses effectivly. So, all depends on the 1st and 2d periods.

And message to some Russian fans. If you do not belive in our team better go to sleep. But I know you belive! And thats why you will watch it! Then stop crying already before the game.

This simply isn't true. I have seen far enough demonstrations of Russian fans going off after big victories around here to know that you are just trying to portray one teams fans in a bad light and making yours look angelic. Hell, even before the 2010 olympics most Russian fans here were annointing Russia with the gold before a game was played, it was total arrogance in the extreme. I know, because I was reading all the threads at that time.

The only ones who are going to fall for your line here are the ones who want to fall for it.

 

[TedLundy]

Hell, even before the 2010 olympics most Russian fans here were annointing Russia with the gold before a game was played, it was total arrogance in the extreme.

You could say the same about the canadian fans here, before every tournament.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I am Canadian and want Canada to win the whole thing, but there's a part of me that would like to see OV get to play in the final.

 

[jj cale]

You could say the same about the canadian fans here, before every tournament.

yeah, o.k.

But to say that only Canadian fans do it is patently untrue so what is your point?

I've even seen finnish fans basically granting themselves future golds around here based on the players they have coming up through the pipeline.It was real crazy along those lines after the last WJC.Theres chest pumping i tell ya!!

He is making it sound like it is some behavior only Canadian fans engage in, which is a total fabrication.

 

[Startseva]

This simply isn't true. I have seen far enough demonstrations of Russian fans going off after big victories around here to know that you are just trying to portray one teams fans in a bad light and making yours look angelic. Hell, even before the 2010 olympics most Russian fans here were annointing Russia with the gold before a game was played, it was total arrogance in the extreme. I know, because I was reading all the threads at that time.

The only ones who are going to fall for your line here are the ones who want to fall for it.

I do not think when you celebrate after a big and meaningful victories it's a show of arrogance.

About Sochi it was hopes of all people and understandable ''hunger'' for gold when a) we didn't have it in a long time; b) especially in a home at Olympic games.
So, it was normal kind of hysteria that ''WE MUST WIN IT AT HOME'' but not because ''WE ARE NUMBER ONE WE WILL SMACK EVERYONE WE ARE BETTER THAN CANADA RED MACHINE'' and blablabla. Well anyways in Sochi was great Olympics and Russian team did even better than expected, just if our hockey players woudl get the gold too it would be too good, it would be a cherry on the cake.

 

[jj cale]

I do not think when you celebrate after a big and meaningful victories it's a show of arrogance.

About Sochi it was hopes of all people and understandable ''hunger'' for gold when a) we didn't have it in a long time; b) especially in a home at Olympic games.
So, it was normal kind of hysteria that ''WE MUST WIN IT AT HOME'' but not because ''WE ARE NUMBER ONE WE WILL SMACK EVERYONE WE ARE BETTER THAN CANADA RED MACHINE'' and blablabla.

It is when you can't stop talking about how great you are.

And as I said, I witnessed Russian fans saying the gold was theirs to lose going into the 2010 olympics. What do you call that if not arrogance?

It is not just Canadian fans and please don't make it sound like it is, it is misleading and not what we need on this forum.

 

[ulvvf]

If you want to figure out if someone is getting close, organize a fairer and more balanced competition. Don't hold what amounts to a Roman circus, where the Christians are fed to the lions (check out the home crowd tonight) in the home den of the overwhelming favorite. Don't form a hybrid team of the best 23 and below NHL superstars from 2 huge hockey countries to play against tiny European countries! This tournament is only designed to entertain Canadian fans and to have the obligatory post-game celebration and rioting! It's a staged victory party - don't call it a competition.

I agree, but the NA fans do not care. As long as they get their popcorn entertaiment and can see canada win, they do not care how it is done. Hockey is probably one of the most corrupt sports in the world and where the focus is so wrong.

Do this tournament count? Do it count if a cheater wins over a honest player, do it count if a honest player wins over a cheater?

 

[BlitzSnipe]

I hope that Russia shows good hockey and that the match turns out to be competitive. Canada is I guess more likely to win, but sport is unpredictable, so I hope Russia wins this time. Regarding nationalists - I think there are people like that everywhere who extoll only their own people and nation and think they're somehow better than others. That's why all nationalists are wrong .

 

[Flamingo]

I agree, but the NA fans do not care. As long as they get their popcorn entertaiment and can see canada win, they do not care how it is done. Hockey is probably one of the most corrupt sports in the world and where the focus is so wrong.

Do this tournament count? Do it count if a cheater wins over a honest player, do it count if a honest player wins over a cheater?

Really? You couldn't even think of another athletic competition that uses the very same ice surfaces as hockey that could have a history of blatant corruption, collusion, and bribery?

 

[Firsov99]

That is if they all develop into top d-men, this is just potential right now.

You can't count chickens before they are hatched, for all we know a guy like Provorov for example may stumble out of the gate in his first few years and be headed back to the KHL in no time where he never becomes more then a good KHL defenseman which of course will not be an elite d-man.

It is all just potential at this point.

I agree with you. The transition from boys to men in hockey doesn't go always as planned. Look at Yakupov. Once he came on the scene, I was licking my chops, hoping that we just landed a Buresque type of elite forward. And what an utter disappointment he has been.

Having said that I don't think that Provorov and Sergachev will flop that bad. Although I do think that Sergachev will develop quicker. We shall see.

 

[snipes]

I agree, but the NA fans do not care. As long as they get their popcorn entertaiment and can see canada win, they do not care how it is done. Hockey is probably one of the most corrupt sports in the world and where the focus is so wrong.

Do this tournament count? Do it count if a cheater wins over a honest player, do it count if a honest player wins over a cheater?

Such ignorance!

Have you ever stepped foot in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Manitoba? Answer that question, your answer determines if we continue chatting.

 

[snipes]

Russian friends if you want to learn and share culture, I will.

I expect knowledge and good faith from you, I will return the same. Any reasonable Russians want to talk hockey, lets chat.

 

[Startseva]

It is when you can't stop talking about how great you are.

And as I said, I witnessed Russian fans saying the gold was theirs to lose going into the 2010 olympics. What do you call that if not arrogance?

It is not just Canadian fans and please don't make it sound like it is, it is misleading and not what we need on this forum.

It is since that hockey is at least sport number 2 here and we can call ourselves as hockey nation with history.

Like you or not, I will say w/e I want. I made a post not to discuss since I see you can't read carefully. I said SOMECanadian fans. Relax

PS
Oh, if Russia will start losing with no hope I know what we will watch. Russia-Spain 1/4 World cup at futsal at the same time as Russia-Canada game. But there we are underdogs too, fortunately.

 

[jj cale]

I agree with you. The transition from boys to men in hockey doesn't go always as planned. Look at Yakupov. Once he came on the scene, I was licking my chops, hoping that we just landed a Buresque type of elite forward. And what an utter disappointment he has been.

Having said that I don't think that Provorov and Sergachev will flop that bad. Although I do think that Sergachev will develop quicker. We shall see.

Tell me about it, I would have a difficult time listing the vast amount of players who i thought were going to be real good and who ended up either being total flops or just run of the mill 3rd-4th liners, nothing can be predicted with utmost certainty even when at a young age they show all the promise in the world. I had such high hopes for alexandre daigle and he showed all the promise in the world, look at how that turned out!!

I can't talk for Sergachev as I have never even seen him play but i have seen Provorov enough and I think he is a pretty safe to be on the Russian national team blueline in the future. But time will tell.

 

[jj cale]

It is since that hockey is at least sport number 2 here and we can call ourselves as hockey nation with history.

Like you or not, I will say w/e I want. I made a post not to discuss since I see you can't read carefully. I said SOMECanadian fans. Relax

PS
Oh, if Russia will start losing with no hope I know what we will watch. Russia-Spain 1/4 World cup at futsal at the same time as Russia-Canada game. But there we are underdogs too, fortunately.

You can say what you want and I can say what i want, but I will call out fabrications based on cherry picking some posts all the while disregarding posts made by others.

Let's just try to enjoy the game together today and leave the nationalistic generalizations and feelings for when we toss back a few with our buddies at the bar o.k?

I want a good hockey game today with good natured ribbing from both sides and without the clear bad natured stuff from both sides today.

If Russia wins I will be here to congratulate them, I won't be pissing in your fans cornflakes.

 

[jj cale]

I hope that Russia shows good hockey and that the match turns out to be competitive. Canada is I guess more likely to win, but sport is unpredictable, so I hope Russia wins this time. Regarding nationalists - I think there are people like that everywhere who extoll only their own people and nation and think they're somehow better than others. That's why all nationalists are wrong .

You get it!!