WJC: Canada 2019 Roster Talk Part 2

[Gold Standard]

Any idea which goalie is getting the start tonight?

Also, Comtois has to be the captain of this team right? Guy is an animal.

both goalies will split duty tonight.

 

[newfy]

I think Cozens should have been on this team.

Who do you cut for Cozens though? A guy like Entwhistle maybe but Entwhistle is there to play a specific role. Cozens is really young and not a legit 1st overall type prospect. Not sure why anyonew ould expect him to make it. Hes competing with first round picks that are 2 years older than him

 

[Canada4Gold]

Hey a little late to the party here but I’m just curious why Dylan Cozens isn’t on the roster. I assume injured?

Trivia questions(that I don't know the answer to): Who was the last guy to make the WJC for Canada in their draft year when they weren't a top 2 pick? Is it Crouse? How many times has it happened in the past 10 years? It's not a common occurrence, it's usually only the clear #1 projected guys who make it.

Cozens and Dach's time will come next year. Whether they're correct or not Canada doesn't like to take 17 year olds.

 

[snipes]

My guess is:

C: Comtois (no brainer)
A: Glass
A: Bouchard

The only one I’m fully condifent about is Comtois as our captain. Absolutely love his game, he’s an exemplar of the Canadian way that we like to see in our players.

 

[JackSlater]

Trivia questions(that I don't know the answer to): Who was the last guy to make the WJC for Canada in their draft year when they weren't a top 2 pick? Is it Crouse? How many times has it happened in the past 10 years? It's not a common occurrence, it's usually only the clear #1 projected guys who make it.

Cozens and Dach's time will come next year. Whether they're correct or not Canada doesn't like to take 17 year olds.

Yeah Crouse, preceded by Drouin in 2013 and Couturier in 2011. Without bothering to look others up, off the top of my head Ellis did it in 2009, Schenn did it in 2008, Kariya did it in 1993, and Ricci did it in 1989 as well. A few of those guys were 18 at tournament time though.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

So Scott and Dipetro are splitting tonight game then one will get the Boxing day game and the other on the 27th and after that game it sounds like they want to make the decision on who to roll with.

 

[Budddy]

sorry if posted before but looking at going to games Jan 2 and 4 in Vancouver and looking at the bracket...if Canada goes to QF is that game guaranteed at Jan 2 3:30 PST and Jan 4 SF at 5pm PST? I assume so based on ticket prices but wanted to confirm...Cheers all!

 

[pettersson]

Didn't think I would be worried about our goalie position...



I'm a little worried. (Yes, I know.. it's just pre but both goalies look a little shaky) Finland does look really good though.

 

[newfy]

A few thoughts on the Finland game:
The bad

- I thought Leason had a weak game. I'm thinking likely just rust from not playing in a while but hopefully thats not what we can expect from him for the tourney.

- Still not loving Dobson back there at all. I think hes been Canadas worst dman, especially when you take expectations into account.

- Comtois was too rowdy tonight. Come tourney time he would've had a couple penalties with the way he was playing tonight.

The good

- Bouchard gets a lot of shots through. I sometimes think hes too trigger happy back there and should wait for traffic out front but if someone can clean up the trash out front he should have a lot of points this tourney. Him shooting into a Rasmussen screen on the PP would've been deadly if Ras got released. Those pucks laying around in the crease will start going in, tonight was unlucky

- As a wings fan I'm really liking Velenos game. Hes making that fourth line a threat to score and theyre really good possession wise. I still think hes a guy that should get considered for moving up the line up if someone is slumping. If Leason doesnt turn it on a bit, Veleno could take his spot up the line up.

- Frost/Hayton were dangerous all night

 

[Tutu to]

How did Laf play?

 

[Hagstrom]

Sucks to lose but would rather have it happen now, gives them a chance to work on things

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

A few thoughts on the Finland game:
The bad

- I thought Leason had a weak game. I'm thinking likely just rust from not playing in a while but hopefully thats not what we can expect from him for the tourney.

- Still not loving Dobson back there at all. I think hes been Canadas worst dman, especially when you take expectations into account.

- Comtois was too rowdy tonight. Come tourney time he would've had a couple penalties with the way he was playing tonight.

The good

- Bouchard gets a lot of shots through. I sometimes think hes too trigger happy back there and should wait for traffic out front but if someone can clean up the trash out front he should have a lot of points this tourney. Him shooting into a Rasmussen screen on the PP would've been deadly if Ras got released. Those pucks laying around in the crease will start going in, tonight was unlucky

- As a wings fan I'm really liking Velenos game. Hes making that fourth line a threat to score and theyre really good possession wise. I still think hes a guy that should get considered for moving up the line up if someone is slumping. If Leason doesnt turn it on a bit, Veleno could take his spot up the line up.

- Frost/Hayton were dangerous all night

Great points.

 

[780il]

My guess is:

C - Comtois (he has it in the bag)
A - Bouchard
A - Glass/Anderson-Dolan

 

[snipes]

Sucks to lose but would rather have it happen now, gives them a chance to work on things

It was a weird game, we had a couple posts and several misses on wide open nets from point blank range. The Finnish goalie also had a very good game.

Lots to work on and improve. I really liked the effort much more in the 3rd. They battled hard but need to bury their chances when they get them, those missed opportunities were frustrating.

Games like this early and before the games start counting are a good thing to rally around.

 

[hangman005]

If someone could @ me the final cuts when the happen it would be appreciated.

The current roster I have is.

Canada
Preliminary

Spoiler: Canada Team Roster

Goaltenders:
1 Michael DiPietro
# Ian Scott

Defensemen:
2 Evan Bouchard
3 Josh Brook
4 Jared McIsaac
5 Ian Mitchell
6 Noah Dobson
18 Marcus Phillips
24 Ty Smith

Forwards:
11 Jaret Anderson-Dolan (C)
15 Shane Bowers (C)
14 Maxime Comtois (LW)
16 MacKenzie Entwistle (RW)
# Alex Formenton (LW)
26 Morgan Frost (C)
8 Cody Glass (C)
27 Barrett Hayton (C)
22 Alexis Lafrenière (LW)
# Brett Leason (C)
23 Jack Studnicka (C)
17 Nick Suzuki (C)
21 Owen Tippett (RW/LW)
9 Joseph Veleno (C)

Scratched:

 

[Hagstrom]

Formenton got injured in one of the exhibition games and is ruled out for the tournament

 

[JackSlater]

If someone could @ me the final cuts when the happen it would be appreciated.

The current roster I have is.

Canada
Preliminary

Spoiler: Canada Team Roster

Goaltenders:
1 Michael DiPietro
# Ian Scott

Defensemen:
2 Evan Bouchard
3 Josh Brook
4 Jared McIsaac
5 Ian Mitchell
6 Noah Dobson
18 Marcus Phillips
24 Ty Smith

Forwards:
11 Jaret Anderson-Dolan (C)
15 Shane Bowers (C)
14 Maxime Comtois (LW)
16 MacKenzie Entwistle (RW)
# Alex Formenton (LW)
26 Morgan Frost (C)
8 Cody Glass (C)
27 Barrett Hayton (C)
22 Alexis Lafrenière (LW)
# Brett Leason (C)
23 Jack Studnicka (C)
17 Nick Suzuki (C)
21 Owen Tippett (RW/LW)
9 Joseph Veleno (C)

Scratched:

The roster was finished last week... Formenton is out.

Canada is a threat to win the tournament, but I must say that I am disappointed that Canada can have nearly all of its players and yet not be considered a big favourite. Things have gotten a lot closer at the junior level this decade, and the same is increasingly becoming true at the senior level. Hockey Canada shouldn't wait for another 1998 WJC situation before seriously looking into big changes. Changing the length of the ice surface for beginner players is a good thing but more can be done.

 

[hangman005]

Muchas Gracias

 

[TheBeastCoast]

The roster was finished last week... Formenton is out.

Canada is a threat to win the tournament, but I must say that I am disappointed that Canada can have nearly all of its players and yet not be considered a big favourite. Things have gotten a lot closer at the junior level this decade, and the same is increasingly becoming true at the senior level. Hockey Canada shouldn't wait for another 1998 WJC situation before seriously looking into big changes. Changing the length of the ice surface for beginner players is a good thing but more can be done.

It is pretty important not to over react to small samples really. Obviously it is always best to be proactive when it comes to making change and improvements....but Canada has had a run of weaker draft years. It has happened before and it will happen again. It isn't a commentary on Canada dropping off on a larger scale. It's just what it is....a weaker run on talent. Especially when you look at the 2020 draft and that is it is absolutely loaded with Canadian talent....Everything will be fine.

 

[JackSlater]

It is pretty important not to over react to small samples really. Obviously it is always best to be proactive when it comes to making change and improvements....but Canada has had a run of weaker draft years. It has happened before and it will happen again. It isn't a commentary on Canada dropping off on a larger scale. It's just what it is....a weaker run on talent. Especially when you look at the 2020 draft and that is it is absolutely loaded with Canadian talent....Everything will be fine.

I'm not particularly concerned about a given game or even year. It's that Canada has had weak drafts for most of this decade. This isn't necessarily shown in WJC results but it does show when you look at the results and then who was missing for Canada and who was missing for other countries. Canada is still the most productive country but the gap has narrowed significantly and given the resources available, that shouldn't be the case. One theoretically strong draft in 2020 doesn't change that. Sticking heads in the sand and ignoring trends is the easy thing to do and it's what Canada has done before, but that's a mistake.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I'm not particularly concerned about a given game or even year. It's that Canada has had weak drafts for most of this decade. This isn't necessarily shown in WJC results but it does show when you look at the results and then who was missing for Canada and who was missing for other countries. Canada is still the most productive country but the gap has narrowed significantly and given the resources available, that shouldn't be the case. One theoretically strong draft in 2020 doesn't change that. Sticking heads in the sand and ignoring trends is the easy thing to do and it's what Canada has done before, but that's a mistake.

 

[LDN]

I feel we have almost too many one way guys on this squad...either way lots of skill and the boys will figure it out...

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I agree that we have much to worry about. As I said in an earlier post, the last thing you want to happen in hockey is being caught too slow. Last night it showed that this team lacks dynamic talent. The type of talent that makes the game easy for us and intimidates the other teams. If the Finns had us on our heels what are we going to do when we play the U.S. and have the Hughes brothers, et al, coming at us at a 100 mph. Whether the recent years are a mere trough in the development of Canadian hockey or is systemic of something wrong in our overall identification, attraction and development of elite talent, there is little doubt that some nations have now caught us, and in some cases passed us, in their successes of developing winning elite hockey programs. Long gone are the days that we could boast of sending any number of teams to any championship who could and would win. Now, it is life and death to even reach the championship game with our best team. With the increased development of the U.S. Finnish, Swedish and Russian programs, soon it will be a challenge to just make the medal round.

 

[snipes]

I'm not particularly concerned about a given game or even year. It's that Canada has had weak drafts for most of this decade. This isn't necessarily shown in WJC results but it does show when you look at the results and then who was missing for Canada and who was missing for other countries. Canada is still the most productive country but the gap has narrowed significantly and given the resources available, that shouldn't be the case. One theoretically strong draft in 2020 doesn't change that. Sticking heads in the sand and ignoring trends is the easy thing to do and it's what Canada has done before, but that's a mistake.

Hockey has become so expensive that a lot of lower middle class kids will simply never have the opportunity to play at the competitive levels.

 

[zaluty]

Formenton and Vilardi would have made this team better but no one is going to moan that Canada had some injuries.