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WJC: Canada 2019 Roster Talk Part 2

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jj cale said:
It is terrible, I fear for the guys career now, hopefully it all get's sorted out.
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I'm pretty happy he isnt going to the tournament, just way too much of a risk to waste a spot on him and not bring a talent like Lafreniere. Hopefully he get his stuff sorted out though. Hes going on 2 years of missed development time.

Reminds me of Cody Hodgson kinda, lots of talent but his back will screw him
 
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Hockey Canada backed into the right decision regarding Vilardi. You know they did so reluctantly. My expectations for Lafreniere at this tournament are not that high, but I soooooooooo hope he surprises me and puts on a show. putting up a 4 spot against the Swiss tonight to get things rolling would be a good start.
 
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I’m surprised Quinton Byfield wasn’t even in the selection camp roster. I understand that the tournament is more about playing experience but this kid is GROSS. I don’t think guys really know how much of what this kid is capable of doing.

I played hockey all last winter with him and Frost & Dellandrea on the local ODR and both of these kids wouldnt even try but they’d still outplay everybody. I can still see Canada playing well with what they have this year though.
 
jellis20 said:
I’m surprised Quinton Byfield wasn’t even in the selection camp roster. I understand that the tournament is more about playing experience but this kid is GROSS. I don’t think guys really know how much of what this kid is capable of doing.

I played hockey all last winter with him and Frost & Dellandrea on the local ODR and both of these kids wouldnt even try but they’d still outplay everybody. I can still see Canada playing well with what they have this year though.
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I would hope that they can dominate at the local ODR without trying. I am just not sure how you played hockey all last winter with them while Dellandrea was in Flint and Frost in SSM.... Story doesnt check out bro.
 
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bert said:
I would hope that they can dominate at the local ODR without trying. I am just not sure how you played hockey all last winter with them while Dellandrea was in Flint and Frost in SSM.... Story doesnt check out bro.
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It’s called online rep management. The guy just blew it up
 
Gold Standard said:
Hockey Canada backed into the right decision regarding Vilardi. You know they did so reluctantly. My expectations for Lafreniere at this tournament are not that high, but I soooooooooo hope he surprises me and puts on a show. putting up a 4 spot against the Swiss tonight to get things rolling would be a good start.
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He should be the 13fwd. Rarely a 17 years old will play on a top 6 role. I wouldn't get my hopes up. The main reason i'm glad he made the team is the experience he will gain for next year.
 
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ManitobaKid said:
This is a prime example about not having a clue about who these prospects are, and the teams they play for. You're speaking purely on which prospect plays for your favorite team.

Scott plays for the best team in the CHL.
Dipietro played for Windsor, who is a below average team in the OHL.

I honestly couldn't care less who the starter is, as long as Canada wins Gold. Don't pretend like this is no significant bias here though on your part.
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Scott does not play for the best team thou...that team has the best record, but its far away from being the best team, period
Past 3 games without Scott been a prove of that, 3 big scoring games (2 x 6-5 games and 1 x 7-5 game) all wins yes, but all 3 games
could of been easily losses as well, Prince Albert Raiders pretty much = Scott&Leason.
 
Canada always mixes its lines, but I do think that the spot that Veleno currently occupies is important for Canada. It looks like Bowers and Entwistle may be viewed as a pair for Canada (one of the OK tandems and on the same line) but they are going to bring very little offence on their own. If the LW can provide an offence spark on that line then Canada has a good chance at getting offence from all four lines.
 
JackSlater said:
Canada always mixes its lines, but I do think that the spot that Veleno currently occupies is important for Canada. It looks like Bowers and Entwistle may be viewed as a pair for Canada (one of the OK tandems and on the same line) but they are going to bring very little offence on their own. If the LW can provide an offence spark on that line then Canada has a good chance at getting offence from all four lines.
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I really don't think that is the best strategy. For a 4th line I don't think you necessarily need offense. I believe you need 3 guys who are possession players that cycle and kill minutes in the offensive zone and grind shots. You really don't need much offense from the 4th line as long as the other team doesn't score much. I don't know if Veleno is that guy, I would think he is similar to McLeod in that much of his offense comes off the rush from his speed. I could be wrong as I haven't watched much QMJHL hockey this year.
 
Gold Standard said:
Hockey Canada backed into the right decision regarding Vilardi. You know they did so reluctantly. My expectations for Lafreniere at this tournament are not that high, but I soooooooooo hope he surprises me and puts on a show. putting up a 4 spot against the Swiss tonight to get things rolling would be a good start.
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Yeah. It really feels like they did sorta back themselves into the decision with Vilardi. Reluctantly.

I don't have a problem with taking a bit of a wait and see approach with Vilardi, because he would have been a big add if he was fully healthy and ready to go. But this notion that it was essentially Vilardi with uncertain/precarious health, or Lafreniere...that's an issue to me. All's well that ends well i guess (assuming JAD is indeed fully up to speed coming off an injury of his own)...and they arrived at the right decision due to Vilardi unfortunately continuing to have issues. However, the process is kinda concerning in what light it sheds on the staff's reasoning process on other decisions. It seems like a similar thought process has kinda led to taking a less than optimum team in some other instances, and some sorta less than ideal combinations being tried with lines, pairings, PP setups, etc.

I guess we'll see, and it won't stop me from being just as invested, cheering just as hard, etc. Just has a bit of the feel of one of those years where they either "overthink" some things, or just straight up let irrelevant factors carry some undue weight. Hope that doesn't end up being the case.
 
RoyIsALegend said:
What are the lines and pairings looking like? If not known yet, maybe at least for tonight.

Sorry, but scanned the past 3 pages of this thread and can’t find them. Thanks in advance.
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Comtois - Glass - Tippett
AndersonDolan - Suzuki - Lafrenière
Frost - Hayton - Studnicka
Veleno - Bowers - Entwistle
Leason (inj)

Brook - Dobson
Phillips - Bouchard
Smith - Mitchell
McIsaac

DiPietro/Scott

PP
Bouchard
Tippett - Studnicka - Glass
Hayton

Smith
Suzuki - Frost -Dobson
Comtois

PK
AndersonDolan - Bowers
Brook - McIssac

Veleno - Entwistle
Phillips - Mitchell
 
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JackSlater said:
Canada always mixes its lines, but I do think that the spot that Veleno currently occupies is important for Canada. It looks like Bowers and Entwistle may be viewed as a pair for Canada (one of the OK tandems and on the same line) but they are going to bring very little offence on their own. If the LW can provide an offence spark on that line then Canada has a good chance at getting offence from all four lines.
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I think that duo is actually pretty well suited to generating the sort of "greasy goals" type of offense that tends to translate better for a more limited minutes "4th line". If that's how they end up being used (though i think that'd be a waste of what Veleno can offer). As long as the defence can move the puck and get them to the offensive zone, they should be fine supplying some grinding shifts, getting the puck to the net front and banging in some garbage. I don't mind Veleno with them as a guy who could be a bit more of a "puck carrier" and distributor and bring a bit more offensive finesse without being out of place in more of an energy line with some grinders.

If that's the "4th line" though, it doesn't strike me as what i'd consider a real matchup or "checking line" per se. It'd be fine defensively, but it kinda looks more like they're building that "3rd line" with Hayton-Studnicka as the real checking line...which makes Frost feel kinda out of place on their LW. Something like maybe JAD and Frost swapping places would make more sense to me in that regard. But at that point, you're sorta going with a really old school Top-6 with two "scoring lines"...and then a Bottom-6 made up of a 3rd "checking line" and a 4th "energy line". Which...in a tournament like this especially, i think an old school Top-6/Bottom-6 dichotomy is needlessly self-neutering.

The early line combos just kinda feel a bit...off...to me. Have to see how it looks in the pre-tourny games, maybe there's brilliant chemistry there or something that i'm missing. But it doesn't look quite right on paper to me.


Unless Studnicka is actually the real "spare forward" and is just a placeholder for Leason right now. In which case...disregard pretty much everything. :laugh:
 
What joke entehistle making the team as a favor for Jonathan Toews. I can’t believe this garbage.
 
Once Leason is back, slide Studnicka down and Entwhistle to the extra slot and I’m liking that forward lineup, especially if Tippett can play up to his capability.
 
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