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Cam Talbot - Mod warning #251

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CaptainMcD

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4th shut out for CAMBOT in a 1-0 game no less. This should keep the haters at bay till' Thursday.
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He got a shutout on only 21 saves and very few tough opportunities. Calgary didn't really shoot from the blue line much, surprisingly, which is his glaring weakness since he began starting.

Its a nice win and a shutout is a shutout but it does nothing to allay my concerns about him. He's still performed incredibly poorly and been fortunate that the Rangers have been a scoring tear.
 

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CaptainMcD said:
He got a shutout on only 21 saves and very few tough opportunities. Calgary didn't really shoot from the blue line much, surprisingly, which is his glaring weakness since he began starting.

Its a nice win and a shutout is a shutout but it does nothing to allay my concerns about him. He's still performed incredibly poorly and been fortunate that the Rangers have been a scoring tear.
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I still don't understand how one can fairly compare a guy who barely ever gets to play with someone who has played 55 games this season. How are the backup goalies ever going to develop when they don't get an opportunity to play?

I remember all the discussions about backup goalies last year during the playoffs when Price was out and Duuuusssssttttin came in. I never understood why the goalies couldn't take turns more often so they were more prepared, but the replies were that goaltending was a cumulative skill building set and the goalies needed to play as much as possible to be on their game. So given that Talbot never gets to play at all, good for him for doing as well as he has.
 
Matt4776

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I don't get why it's so difficult for people who are "anti-Cam" (i.e. people that have the audacity to believe Cam is one of the best goaltenders in the league but perhaps not ready for a starting gig) to admit he had a great game last night. He had a shutout. I don't care how good the defense played and/or how limited the scoring opportunities were, if you had a shutout as a goaltender you had a great game.

On the same note, I just really really wish people would stop using irrelevant red-herring stats with a TON of confounding variables to even jokingly suggest that Talbot is better than Hank.
 

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As of today: Cam's AdSv% (inc. playoffs) is .930 and Henrik's is .926.
Since last season Cam is 4th in the league in AdSv% among goalies facing 1000+ shots.. very impressive.
 
Miamipuck

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There aren't really haters of Talbot. But the following has pissed people off and made it seem that way:

1.) He hasn't been very good in this run of games but has won regardless.

2.) Pejorative Slured trade Hank arguments about saving cap space while representing zero knowledge and understanding of math and logic.

He was excellent last night, I hope it continues.
 

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Miamipuck said:
There aren't really haters of Talbot. But the following has pissed people off and made it seem that way:

1.) He hasn't been very good in this run of games but has won regardless.

2.) Pejorative Slured trade Hank arguments about saving cap space while representing zero knowledge and understanding of math and logic.

He was excellent last night, I hope it continues.
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Agreed, 100%. Cam has been OK. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

NYRangers84

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Miamipuck said:
There aren't really haters of Talbot. But the following has pissed people off and made it seem that way:

1.) He hasn't been very good in this run of games but has won regardless.

2.) Pejorative Slured trade Hank arguments about saving cap space while representing zero knowledge and understanding of math and logic.

He was excellent last night, I hope it continues.
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There's almost no chance that Lundqvist gets traded. At this point Talbot playing well helps us and also builds a case for himself to get some big money in FA next year as a starter. My whole controversy was because I disapproved of Sather re-signing Lundqvist. Can't change that now though.

And yes he was excellent and hope it continues as well.
 
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eKardz

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http://rangersunlimited.com/players/goaltender/cam-talbot/

The draft is the time to deal him. 1 season left on his contract. He's earned at least a chance to start on some team.
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if Schneider went for a second, what could cam get, a 5th?

If moving him at the next year deadline:

Also, at what point next season would you start phasing him out. If we have a chance at another great run next year do we roll with Cam only till the deadline? Or does halverson come in next season and split with cam so he can be ready, or do we trade for veteran goalie to finish out that year and start the next season with the kid?
 
Doctyl

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eKardz said:
if Schneider went for a second, what could cam get, a 5th?

If moving him at the next year deadline:

Also, at what point next season would you start phasing him out. If we have a chance at another great run next year do we roll with Cam only till the deadline? Or does halverson come in next season and split with cam so he can be ready, or do we trade for veteran goalie to finish out that year and start the next season with the kid?
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Schneider got a top 10 pick
 
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