Calvin Pickard signed for 2 years, 1 mil avg per year

[TB12]

I feel every year at this time some posters need a refresher on what a 1-way and 2-way contract are and what they mean. The yelling at clouds over 1-way/2-way deals (when you don't even understand them) gets a little tiring.

 

[MoontoScott]

I feel every year at this time some posters need a refresher on what a 1-way and 2-way contract are and what they mean. The yelling at clouds over 1-way/2-way deals (when you don't even understand them) gets a little tiring.

It's a good deal for the Oilers.

Instead of going out to the thinly traded (distorted) free agent market and signing someone that you really don't know as a player, you stay close to home and sign a guy that has played well when called upon. Plus he's well liked in the dressing room and you get him at league minimum. Good solid common sense move.

Now let's see if the club decides to stick with Campbell's contract for another year.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Fyi, two way and 1 way have nothing to do with being able to waive or being able to bury cap hit. 1 way just means he gets that nhl pay no matter what. Otherwise when he is in the minors hed instead get paid the minor league salary which is less than the nhl league minimum and only get prorated nhl salary when he is up pn the team. Slightly more than 1 mil can be buried(its the nhl league minimum+ 325k that is amout that cam be buried from a player in minor league) and that cap hit is buried whether its 1 way or 2 way. Thw only thing the 1way effects in that instance is the actual money being paid. Not the cap hit

Obviously, what is the point of this post?

 

[FunkyChicken]

He was a regular rotation backup this past season. $1m isn’t an overpay for that.

I concede to this. My point is he hasn't been a regular backup for 8 years prior to this one. I don't see him as anything but a inbetweener and I'm bitter that it means same goaltending tandem that arguably cost us a cup.

 

[Spawn]

I concede to this. My point is he hasn't been a regular backup for 8 years prior to this one. I don't see him as anything but a inbetweener and I'm bitter that it means same goaltending tandem that arguably cost us a cup.

I think that’s fair. I also don’t think our goaltending is good enough. Just need to hope on continued development of Skinner into a more consistent goalie I think.

 

[brentashton]

Beside this year, last time he posted an above 900 save % in the NHL was 8 years ago.
Who else is bidding on him and offering a 2 year one-way?

But on this team this year he DID post a +900 save percentage. You cant compare his seasons 9 years ago to what he did recently. Like it’s been stated, good signing for a career back up.

 

[tardigrade81]

I think it's a bit of an overpay for a career inbetweener.
The one-way deal with a second year term is the real reward here, think we overpaid by about $200k per year. That could have been better spent for a cap strapped team.
Holland is gone, but man this looks like the Derek Ryan contract.

He was solid when we needed him and when he played in the playoffs he was solid as well. I’m ok with the signing

I did offer myself to the oilers for cheaper, but they said no. Such as life.

I think I did myself in when I said, “I will only goaltend… not doing sexual favors”.

Probably would have had better luck in Chicago with that comment I guess

 

[WhyYouHaveToBeMad]

Everyone who hates this deal is crazy. name a better back up we can sign for 1 mil a year?

 

[TheNumber4]

Backup Brossoit and Backup Stolarz being rumored to be in the 4M range.

Happy we got Picks.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Everyone who hates this deal is crazy. name a better back up we can sign for 1 mil a year?

Kaapo Kahkonen

 

[Oilhawks]

I changed my mind. Tyler Yaremchuk, the genius savant of Edmonton hockey media said this is an overpay. Bad bad deal!!

 

[elmeroil]

I changed my mind. Tyler Yaremchuk, the genius savant of Edmonton hockey media said this is an overpay. Bad bad deal!!

That's hilarious, 1 mil for a solid backup who's a great team guy and clearly good for Skinner....definitely Tyler knows a thing or two about overpays!

 

[Dhockey16]

I don't think the separation between Pick and Skinner is very big. Skinner is bigger and younger but Pickard is just as athletic and hasn't shown the propensity to completely lose his mind and singlehandedly lose games like Skinner has. Rodrigue looks like a serious prospect - would like to see him get some games this coming season. Don't think I'll ever be truly confident in Skinner after he nearly lost the VAN series, but - to his credit - he did get his shit together and played great down the stretch.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Kaapo Kahkonen

He has a sub .900 sv% the last 2 seasons and actually has a lower career sv% than pickard. Not that pickard will repeat but he actually played well behidn pilers last year. Why bet on the guy who didnt play well last season instead?

 

[WhyYouHaveToBeMad]

Kaapo Kahkonen

I wouldn't say he's better:

Calvin Picakrd: 139 games played with .904 save% and 2.93 GAA

Kaapo: 139 games played .899 save% and 3.33 GAA

Plus Piks is well liked in the room.

 

[FunkyChicken]

He has a sub .900 sv% the last 2 seasons and actually has a lower career sv% than pickard. Not that pickard will repeat but he actually played well behidn pilers last year. Why bet on the guy who didnt play well last season instead?

Not sure if serious.
Kahkonen played behind a team with a combined 41 wins and a -237 goal differential over the last 2 years. Might have something to do with it. Gets traded to Devils and posts a .923 sv%.
But if you are only in for sv%, Reimer signed for 800k.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not sure if serious.
Kahkonen played behind a team with a combined 41 wins and a -237 goal differential over the last 2 years. Might have something to do with it. Gets traded to Devils and posts a .923 sv%.
But if you are only in for sv%, Reimer signed for 800k.

Reimer is worse than Pickard and generally sucks, where as Pickard is really well liked.

This is definitely going to be a you need to get over this kinda thing. He's making nearly the minimum and the team trusts him as a back-up. No reason to "over think" this.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Reimer is worse than Pickard and generally sucks, where as Pickard is really well liked.

I thought the standard they were using above was lifetime GAA and SV% where Reimer is better than Pickard at both. Or have to posts shifted to unmeasurable stats?

 

[K1984]

I feel every year at this time some posters need a refresher on what a 1-way and 2-way contract are and what they mean. The yelling at clouds over 1-way/2-way deals (when you don't even understand them) gets a little tiring.

Not to mention crying about term for players that have 100% buryable contracts.

Only person that should care about that is the owner, but fans seem to think it matters for reasons I don't understand. Whining for the sake of whining. I think that Oilers management has been so bad for so long that some are just conditioned to look at absolutely everything as glass half empty.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Not sure if serious.
Kahkonen played behind a team with a combined 41 wins and a -237 goal differential over the last 2 years. Might have something to do with it. Gets traded to Devils and posts a .923 sv%.
But if you are only in for sv%, Reimer signed for 800k.

Keep in mind that devils sv% is a grand total of 5 games plus 1 game where he got pulled 8 minutes in(im guessing injury) not exactly a significant sample size. Im surenthe team didnt help. He was better with the wild but nothing special. Id take the chance on the goalie who worked with the team over one who put bad stats up for 2 years even if it was a bad team.

Kappo could be better but nkt every goalie works with every system. Pickard showed he is fine in front of edmontons team.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Keep in mind that devils sv% is a grand total of 5 games plus 1 game where he got pulled 8 minutes in(im guessing injury) not exactly a significant sample size. Im surenthe team didnt help. He was better with the wild but nothing special. Id take the chance on the goalie who worked with the team over one who put bad stats up for 2 years even if it was a bad team.

Kappo could be better but nkt every goalie works with every system. Pickard showed he is fine in front of edmontons team.

Pickard has played 56 NHL games in the last 6 years. Averaging a little more than 9 games a year. Talking about small sample size. What part about him screams high end back up? 3rd string...yes.

General consensus on the Oilers' weakest link are Nurse, Ceci, and Skinner.
Nurse's contract is untradable, he's out.
Sounds like they are working on upgrading Ceci...wait and see.
For all of his Jekyll and Hyde routine, Skinner's cost is low enough that you can't replace him at that cap number. So why not improve the backup at a relatively low cost instead of staying with the same dual that cost games last year? Get someone who can push Skinner for that #1 when he goes full Hyde. Pickard can buy time, but not push.

 

[Spawn]

Not sure if serious.
Kahkonen played behind a team with a combined 41 wins and a -237 goal differential over the last 2 years. Might have something to do with it. Gets traded to Devils and posts a .923 sv%.
But if you are only in for sv%, Reimer signed for 800k.

Pickard also exclusively played on terrible teams during his stretch in the NHL of bad numbers fwiw.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Pickard has played 56 NHL games in the last 6 years. Averaging a little more than 9 games a year. Talking about small sample size. What part about him screams high end back up? 3rd string...yes.

General consensus on the Oilers' weakest link are Nurse, Ceci, and Skinner.
Nurse's contract is untradable, he's out.
Sounds like they are working on upgrading Ceci...wait and see.
For all of his Jekyll and Hyde routine, Skinner's cost is low enough that you can't replace him at that cap number. So why not improve the backup at a relatively low cost instead of staying with the same dual that cost games last year? Get someone who can push Skinner for that #1 when he goes full Hyde. Pickard can buy time, but not push.

I never called pickard a high end backup, i compared him vs Kahkonen. Kahkonen has had horrible stats the last 2 years, horrible advanced stats like gsaa the last 2 year, and only had mediocre numbers on the wild who had a good defense when he was there. Nothing about him screams high end backup unless you are only weighring 5 games he started for new jersey. I suspect thats why he only cost 1 million. Hes nothing.

If you want a high end backup, they are gonna cost well over 1 million. Since pickard got the job done, they dont want to spend more. I dont know why you are so high on kappo but he is also one of the weaker backups in the league. Hes had 1 good season in 2021-2022 where he looked better than an avg goalie as a backup and otherwise has been garbage. For blaming the team in front of him, mackenzie blackwood who was garbage with the devils for 3 straight years outplayed him.

 

[oilexport]

If we're going for the cup, I want another option in net - but I do like this signing, for 2-3 position goalie. Let's sign Hart, and if the summer goes well for him, he can join our team. We will get him for league minimum !
P.s. our legendary G.M., went to jail to get Mac-t. The best 3rd line center !

 

[WATTAGE4451]

If we're going for the cup, I want another option in net - but I do like this signing, for 2-3 position goalie. Let's sign Hart, and if the summer goes well for him, he can join our team. We will get him for league minimum !
P.s. our legendary G.M., went to jail to get Mac-t. The best 3rd line center !

I dont think any team is signing hart or any of those players. And i dont know what you mean by summer goes well for him, the trial still isnt til i think 2025 so there wont be closure and hed have to step away in middle of season.

Offering more money to avoid ntc/nmc. Isnt an option either because we live in a cap league and paying higher price kills your team flexibility, plus if you pay the player too much, it might as well be a ntc cuz no other teams gonna want the contract at that point.

Players waive these clauses all the time anyway.