Proposal: Calgary - Los Angeles: Dustin Wolf for Quinton Byfield

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That's not the point he made, he said NHL caliber that's much different and asinine to say at 20
Depends what you mean by NHL calibre. Right now his play has been at best that if a meh 4th line guy

That will certainly change, but he’s been a liability out there a decent chunk of the time so far
 
I’m not going to comment on Byfield. What little I’ve seen of him at the nhl level, his speed jumps out. His size is impressive and he’s got hands with technical quality. But his flashes are rare.

Wolf has posted elite numbers in the AHL as a really young goalie. I’m not sure why he hasn’t seen NHL ice yet. He’s certainly earned some NHL starts based on his performances to date. Dude had vastly outplayed his draft slot and clearly goes in round 1 of his draft based on his performance since he was drafted.
 
Depends what you mean by NHL calibre. Right now his play has been at best that if a meh 4th line guy

That will certainly change, but he’s been a liability out there a decent chunk of the time so far

As a 19/20 year old sure, he's developing, he's learning, no reason to think that doesn't continue and he develops into what everyone thought he would.

The offensive tools are there already, a meh 4th liner doesn't put up 5 points in 6 AHL games as a 20 year old.
 
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As a 19/20 year old sure, he's developing, he's learning, no reason to think that doesn't continue and he develops into what everyone thought he would.

The offensive tools are there already, a meh 4th liner doesn't put up 5 points in 6 AHL games as a 20 year old.
His age is irrelevant when talking about CURRENT NHL play. I think we’re talking about two different things here.

At his current play, he’s not an NHL player

In the future he absolutely will be, and likely a very good one.

There are absolutely concerns though as a highly skilled 2nd overall player should be in the NHL by now. The IQ issues that I’ve talked about since his draft year are really showing so far. Remains to be seen if that gets fixed.
 
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I’m not going to comment on Byfield. What little I’ve seen of him at the nhl level, his speed jumps out. His size is impressive and he’s got hands with technical quality. But his flashes are rare.

Wolf has posted elite numbers in the AHL as a really young goalie. I’m not sure why he hasn’t seen NHL ice yet. He’s certainly earned some NHL starts based on his performances to date. Dude had vastly outplayed his draft slot and clearly goes in round 1 of his draft based on his performance since he was drafted.
I think until you actually see what he does at the NHL level there won’t be enough people seeing him as a future star.

He can play as well as he can in the AHL but the size will always be a worry. It certainly doesn’t mean he won’t be a star goalie, but the fact remains small goalies rarely become elite in the NHL. Again, does not mean he won’t, but the odds are against him.
 
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Adam Ruzicka

lmao

If Byfield isn't as good as Ruzicka in 3.5 years, I'll send you a case of beer.

But that's a hard sell given Byfield was scoring at the same 'disappointing' NHL pace this year at a month or 2 older than 19 as Adam Ruzicka was at 22.5.


His age is irrelevant when talking about CURRENT NHL play. I think we’re talking about two different things here.

At his current play, he’s not an NHL player

In the future he absolutely will be, and likely a very good one.

There are absolutely concerns though as a highly skilled 2nd overall player should be in the NHL by now.
The IQ issues that I’ve talked about since his draft year are really showing so far. Remains to be seen if that gets fixed.

He's only not in the NHL because of illness. It's a conditioning stint because he lost 20 pounds.

If anything the dude has now started two seasons looking like the best player on the ice several nights only to get hurt/sick and have to play catch up. THAT is the bigger concern than his actual play at this point. When he was playing with skilled players, Iafallo-Byfield-Vilardi was our best line, he had 3 pts in 5 games before Iafallo got hurt and Vilardi got moved up.

He's absolutely an NHLer right this moment and a good one. Fair to question his ceiling? Absolutely. But this post is a completely outdated take.
 
Questions about him being a future star (Byfield) player or even top 6 material are legitimate.

Saying he is not a current NHL player is too ridiculous for words.
 
lmao

If Byfield isn't as good as Ruzicka in 3.5 years, I'll send you a case of beer.

But that's a hard sell given Byfield was scoring at the same 'disappointing' NHL pace this year at a month or 2 older than 19 as Adam Ruzicka was at 22.5.




He's only not in the NHL because of illness. It's a conditioning stint because he lost 20 pounds.

If anything the dude has now started two seasons looking like the best player on the ice several nights only to get hurt/sick and have to play catch up. THAT is the bigger concern than his actual play at this point. When he was playing with skilled players, Iafallo-Byfield-Vilardi was our best line, he had 3 pts in 5 games before Iafallo got hurt and Vilardi got moved up.

He's absolutely an NHLer right this moment and a good one. Fair to question his ceiling? Absolutely. But this post is a completely outdated take.
He has 14pts, 5G in 54 NHL games. That simply is NOT a good NHL player. Him getting scarcted after failing horribly in the playoffs just reinforced this.

He will likely get there someday, but he’s undoubtably a disappointment at this point.
 
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There are tons of goalies who played in the A at a later age and had much worse stats lol. Not many that have better is my

There are tons of goalies who played in the A at a later age and had much worse stats lol. Not many that have better is my point
And what I am saying is the goalies his age with his skill were already playing in the NHL ...
You obviously know tons about goalie development.

none of those players had a fraction of the success Dustin did. He’s elite. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

Editor of in goal magazine, Kevin Woodley, has referred to Dustin Wolf as “goalie porn”

cool story bro
 
I think until you actually see what he does at the NHL level there won’t be enough people seeing him as a future star.

He can play as well as he can in the AHL but the size will always be a worry. It certainly doesn’t mean he won’t be a star goalie, but the fact remains small goalies rarely become elite in the NHL. Again, does not mean he won’t, but the odds are against him.
At some point, Production matters. And if Wolf produces while Byfield doesn’t, the size queens will need to capitulate.

The Avs have two small goalies right now and are getting some of the best goalie play they’ve had in ages.
 
He has 14pts, 5G in 54 NHL games. That simply is NOT a good NHL player. Him getting scarcted after failing horribly in the playoffs just reinforced this.

He will likely get there someday, but he’s undoubtably a disappointment at this point.
The rush you have for this kid to fail is a little suspicious.
 
Oh is this another guy calling me a racist for pointing out poor hockey IQ? 😂

Tired act big fella
I don’t think that is the issue he meant but more about the fact the draft was barely two years ago. Yet you already clap yourself on the back. If he hadn’t play any NHL games than he would not have been a disappointment…..how does this work for you ? You would have said this exact same thing if he played in the AHL only ? I doubt it.

Yesterday you said he was not a NHL player currently [in capital letters]. Racoon Jesus said it didnt look that way before he got sick and you counter with statistics from last season.…right…

Heck a 10G & 20 points season wouldn’t even that bad in his first year.

Let me get this straight that Byfield could become Bustfield after all, that’s not the point. I wouldn’t bet my money on it either but you seem to have something against him.
 
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I don’t think that is the issue he meant but more about the fact the draft was barely two years ago. Yet already clap yourself on the back. If he hadn’t play any NHL games than he would not have been a disappointment…..how does this work for you ? You would have said this exact same thing if he played in the AHL only ? I doubt it.

Yesterday you said he was not a NHL player currently [in capital letters]. Racoon Jesus said it didnt look that way before he got sick and you counter with statistics from last season.…right…

Heck a 10G & 20 points season wouldn’t even that bad in his first year.

Let me get this straight that Byfield could become Bustfield after all, that’s not the point. I wouldn’t bet my money on it either but you seem to have something against him.
10G 20 Pt would be horrible for a D+3 2nd overall
 
Obviously you have nothing to add.

It was his D+2 season actually but who cares. You are not looking for answers or perspective anyway.
Do you think it’s a good sign he doesn’t look NHL ready, scratched, and production about as well as Tomas Nosek?
 
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I don’t think that is the issue he meant but more about the fact the draft was barely two years ago. Yet you already clap yourself on the back. If he hadn’t play any NHL games than he would not have been a disappointment…..how does this work for you ? You would have said this exact same thing if he played in the AHL only ? I doubt it.

Yesterday you said he was not a NHL player currently [in capital letters]. Racoon Jesus said it didnt look that way before he got sick and you counter with statistics from last season.…right…

Heck a 10G & 20 points season wouldn’t even that bad in his first year.

Let me get this straight that Byfield could become Bustfield after all, that’s not the point. I wouldn’t bet my money on it either but you seem to have something against him.


He has a vested interest in Byfield's failure since he's been motherf***ing him since two years before the draft, it's best not to take his takes on QB very seriously. There would be nothing he could do that would qualify as 'good enough' at any point.

Calling him 'not nhl ready' and 'scratched' should be the clue that it's deliberate ignorance.
 
He has a vested interest in Byfield's failure since he's been motherf***ing him since two years before the draft, it's best not to take his takes on QB very seriously. There would be nothing he could do that would qualify as 'good enough' at any point.

Calling him 'not nhl ready' and 'scratched' should be the clue that it's deliberate ignorance.
Maybe a little production… that’s it. Don’t think that’s asking too much
 
Funny how people are saying that Byfield needs time at 20 years old but Lafreniere is a Bust at 20 year old......
 
I’m not going to comment on Byfield. What little I’ve seen of him at the nhl level, his speed jumps out. His size is impressive and he’s got hands with technical quality. But his flashes are rare.

Wolf has posted elite numbers in the AHL as a really young goalie. I’m not sure why he hasn’t seen NHL ice yet. He’s certainly earned some NHL starts based on his performances to date. Dude had vastly outplayed his draft slot and clearly goes in round 1 of his draft based on his performance since he was drafted.
0.914 sv % this year is "elite"?

#17 among AHL goalies. Almost made the top half of the league I guess?
 
I’m not going to comment on Byfield. What little I’ve seen of him at the nhl level, his speed jumps out. His size is impressive and he’s got hands with technical quality. But his flashes are rare.

Wolf has posted elite numbers in the AHL as a really young goalie. I’m not sure why he hasn’t seen NHL ice yet. He’s certainly earned some NHL starts based on his performances to date. Dude had vastly outplayed his draft slot and clearly goes in round 1 of his draft based on his performance since he was drafted.

I have been a buyer of Wolf in my dynasty fantasy leagues so I believe in him. Although I am always a little guarded against AHL success. In the 05 lockout Jason Lababerba was the AHL's best goalie, and the AHL that year was super deep with talent. This had me thinking LA had their goalie of the future.

JAD should be the target for the Flames IMO. Local kid who is hard on the puck and can play center or wing. He would be Lewis's replacement. Utility player with speed.
 

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