C William Nylander (2014, 8th, TOR) VI
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he's not going to be called up this year, that's not the plan. unless they maybe give him 9 games as a reward.
he'll miss games if they let him go to wjc though.
VictorLustig
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He's going to the WJC if he isn't playing with the Leafs. Part of the "new" agreement between the NHL and the Swedish hockey federation.
I seriously doubt it's ever happened. If a teenager is leading the AHL in scoring halfway through the season he'll generally be called up to the NHL. Also there are not very many teenager AHLers to begin with as you have to be non-CHL drafted to play in the AHL as a teen.
He probably isn't going to be sent.
Dubas was speaking glowingly of how well Sheldon Keefe and Nylander were working together. They are really working on his defensive game (and you can tell just by watching him) and it's improving his overall game as a whole.
The Leafs want him to be a two-way elite center, and he's moving in that direction.
It's unlikely they send him to a tournament which is mainly based around offense for a month, when it'll do nothing for him.
However, if he is sent, Sweden instantly becomes the favorite, led by two Maple Leafs prospects.
I was thinking this was quite possible but I can't find any info on it. I think he is going to miss too many games to actually win it, but he is off to a great start.
I would think it hasn't happened before (Or is very rare). As it is unprecedented for a player of Nylander's ability at his age (Quite possibly without even taking age into consideration) to be left in the AHL. The Leafs are trying to outsmart themselves here.
hamzarocks
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was spezza a teen in 04/05 didnt he lead the ahl in scoring during the lockout, or was very close to
edit: Him and Mike Camillarie were 21 so not teens, but they had 117 and 109 pts respectively.
hamzarocks
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staal was 19 and had 77 pts in 77 games, no where near the top as he had 40 pts less than spezza but he was ppg as a 19 year old. The thing is so little teenagers get to play in the ahl as they cant go there until their 20 usually, after two post draft years in the chl
yeah and the guys who are eligible to go to the AHL before age 20 are either European so they just play pro in europe, or they are NCAA guys who just go play that.
hamzarocks
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Yup, i dont think nylander puts up 100 points let alone spezza's 117, but he is younger by 2 years, and the ahl scoring is much lower like the nhls. I think if he plays the whole year there he can win the ahl scoring title with 85-95 points
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c3z4r
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Yeah, the AHL has seen a significant dip in scoring in the past 5 years, with 2009-2010 having been the last season with a 100 point player. For this reason, I can really see Nylander having a real shot at winning the scoring race, if the Leafs don't call him up after the deadline and if he doesn't get into a slump halfway through the season.
Last year for example, the leading scorer only had 80pts.
gretskidoo
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Pretty sure he's saying it's been going down like the NHL.
Last year the AHL had 2 players above 70. In Spezza's 117 point season, the number was 19.
hamzarocks
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Yeah, thats what i said. The ahl's scoring is much lower now a days like the nhl's. Atleast the top players in the ahl and nhl dont get as much as previous years, where in the nhl you could see 5-6 90ish point plus players. No one is going to score 100 in the ahl(prospects not nhl stars obviously).
edit: My bad if the wording was confusing.
hamzarocks
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Pastrnak had 28 pts in 25 games last year, similar pace to Nylander's now.
Of course keeping it up for a full year is something else altogether. It would be really impressive if Nylander can put up 80ish points.
I can't see that happening. The Leafs will likely release him for the WJC. ~PPG should be expected but I don't think he can put up 80 points.
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So this is evidence? Whatever. Damien is certainly a source I would rely on to make my point.
He is likely better off where he is until the Leafs become more functional. Assuming that will happen. I am sure the guys making these calls think it will. I don't get how he gets a free pass in the 2014 redrafts to be ahead of Larkin and Ehlers at this point though.
TheLeastOfTheBunch
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Found this in an article surrounding Burakosvky playing in the AHL, and the Caps not releasing him to the WJCs. Think this was what Huffman was talking about earlier:
http://www.russianmachineneverbreak...-andre-burakovsky-demotion-available-for-wjc/
So we can expect Nylander to play for Team Sweden, unless Lou promotes him to the Leafs during the WJCs time period
http://www.russianmachineneverbreak...-andre-burakovsky-demotion-available-for-wjc/
So we can expect Nylander to play for Team Sweden, unless Lou promotes him to the Leafs during the WJCs time period
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It certainly is when its being broadcasted nation wide on hockey night in Canada. And it had been repeated over and over again by management last year if others would be bothered to look it up.
As for Larkin and Ehlers, they have threads of their own people can fawn over. People can pimp their names out there. Redrafts means dick all right now when the Leafs are taking this approach with Nylander so bringing up prospects on playoff calibre teams also means dick all. He's in the AHL so right now it'd make sense to compare him to AHL players and if you haven't figured it out already, it puts him right at the top of the list in that department given his age.
We all knew he has offensive skill.. not sure why anyone is surprised?
It's the rest of his game that was lacking, it is there he must improve, or he's just another Kessel.
It's the rest of his game that was lacking, it is there he must improve, or he's just another Kessel.
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Yup. There are many uninformed posts that ignore how Dubas said before training camp even started that Nylander would be the Marlies top line centre this season. Still some people try to argue that Nylander isn't in the NHL because he's not good enough even though there is so much evidence pointing towards him not being there because it's part of the plan and was a foregone conclusion.
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