C/W Gabe Perreault - Boston College, NCAA (2023, 23rd, NYR)

[JiggsNY]

Great pick given his potential and all the way down at our pick. But man the PTSD kicks right in seeing another rangers pick with skating concerns. Regardless still happy with this, we don’t always go BPA

 

[Lt Dan]

Man his resemblance to a young Yannic is crazy close

 

[TLEH]

I know who Stan Bowman would have selected at 19.

 

[Mike Puck]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

Was Jason Robertson a steal? Sometimes guys go later than they should. The draft is not an exact science.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

Then you can never have a steal in the first few rounds.

 

[Fantomas]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

Happens every year, especially to talented wingers. Teams get wrapped up in their "needs" and skilled players drop a number of spots.

Perreault is not an outstanding skater, but if he improves his edges he might indeed end up a steal.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

Are you serious?

Yea you are right, there are never steals and scouts are never wrong

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

Holy “appeal to authority” Batman!

 

[LemonSauceD]

Guy reminds me of Elias Pettersson with his vision and craftiness. Not necessarily the skating/defensive side of Petey, but the ability to make everyone around him better offensively. Some of his plays are really just 200 IQ level of anticipation and deception.

Really like this guy. His skating definitely is a concern, but he isn’t a slow poke. A good skating coach and he’ll be awesome.

You guys got a good one.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I dont fully understand how he is ”steal” after 32 teams pro scouting departments observe him full time through season and as a result he is as low as he is in every teams list? As if he would fly under someones radar after he has just broken Matthews all time record.

People base the steal/reach labels on arbitrary rankings by non-scouts. It's a weird thing.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

People base the steal/reach labels on arbitrary rankings by non-scouts. It's a weird thing.

Is it really a weird thing? How else are people suppose to define “steals/reaches”? Literally nobody here has watched all these players enough to form any real opinions, not any more than the scouting services who rank the players.

If the majority if these services or legit people like Mckenzie have a player ranked 8-12, and he gets picked 22-26, then yea people are going to they the player was a steal where he was picked based on that.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Is it really a weird thing? How else are people suppose to define “steals/reaches”? Literally nobody here has watched all these players enough to form any real opinions, not any more than the scouting services who rank the players.

If the majority if these services or legit people like Mckenzie have a player ranked 8-12, and he gets picked 22-26, then yea people are going to they the player was a steal where he was picked based on that.

Exactly. And while the people we read might not be scouts employed by teams, they have spent a considerable amount of time researching these prospects and in many cases consulting with scouts to form their rankings. To label the rankings as "arbitrary" is a gross misrepresentation of the rankings done by many of the prospect analysts. And we all know of teams reaching for players far from where their consensus ranking places them. That is much more arbitrary than the rankings we read.

And for the record, I'd label Perreault as a "steal." I wish the Hawks took him at 19. I drafted him in my fantasy league at pick 17.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Is it really a weird thing? How else are people suppose to define “steals/reaches”? Literally nobody here has watched all these players enough to form any real opinions, not any more than the scouting services who rank the players.

If the majority if these services or legit people like Mckenzie have a player ranked 8-12, and he gets picked 22-26, then yea people are going to they the player was a steal where he was picked based on that.

Sorry, my point was more how much emphasis people put into those rankings, and simultaneously looking at it in a very black-and-white way.

A steal isn't always a good thing. A reach isn't always a bad thing.

A player can drop and be considered a steal but why does the player "drop"? Why are scouts not as high on a player as the reporters/tv personalities who put rankings together?

Example: Joe Veleno was considered a steal, Moritz Seider was a huge reach.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Example: Joe Veleno was considered a steal, Moritz Seider was a huge reach.

And Debrincat was considered and has proven to be a steal and Filip Johansson was considered and was a reach. Collectively, who is better at ranking and projecting prospects- teams or prospect analysts? All fans have to go on are rankings and draft results.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Sorry, my point was more how much emphasis people put into those rankings, and simultaneously looking at it in a very black-and-white way.

A steal isn't always a good thing. A reach isn't always a bad thing.

A player can drop and be considered a steal but why does the player "drop"? Why are scouts not as high on a player as the reporters/tv personalities who put rankings together?

Example: Joe Veleno was considered a steal, Moritz Seider was a huge reach.

So what then do people not comment ever on whether players are steals or reaches on a *checks notes* hockey message board? It's like the people that invariably say "I won't grade this draft until 5 years down the line".

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So what then do people not comment ever on whether players are steals or reaches on a *checks notes* hockey message board? It's like the people that invariably say "I won't grade this draft until 5 years down the line".

As usual, you completely miss the point of what I'm saying.

Listing someone a steal or reach is fine. I'm arguing against what those words mean. But go on, misinterpret what I am saying. That's your niche.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

As usual, you completely miss the point of what I'm saying.

Listing someone a steal or reach is fine. I'm arguing against what those words mean. But go on, misinterpret what I am saying. That's your niche.

You ok dude? I'm having a conversation and you're being somewhat aggressive for no reason.

 

[Reaper45]

Kings wanted to trade up and nab him. No one would budge.

 

[Hollel]

Kings wanted to trade up and nab him. No one would budge.

Oh?? Where was this reported?

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Some day to be involved in the inevitable Kyle Connor trade to the Rangers

 

[Reaper45]

Oh?? Where was this reported?

The mayor, one of the Kings reporters, tweeted it.

 

[Sasso09]

Easiest thing to improve at the next level is skating and it's his only weakness. If he turns into an average skater he's PPG potential... Flyers Bonked on their second pick

 

[Synergy27]

Kings wanted to trade up and nab him. No one would budge.

This makes me love the pick even more that I already do because I really like the Kings draft philosophy.

 

[Blueswin]

The mayor, one of the Kings reporters, tweeted it.

I am sure the Kings were trying to move up considering they were picking late in the 2nd round. That would have been an incredible move up that many places.