C Tyler Seguin (2010, 2nd overall, Boston; traded to Dallas)
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Michael Brand Eggs
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http://the-l-f.blogspot.com/
has a great video of Seguin. I'd be surprised if somebody watched that video and did not come away with Datsyuk.
Seguin doesn't have the unique stride that Dats does, and I think he has one more tool (a lethal one-timer), but the hockey sense and offensive zone decisionmaking is eerie. The way he'll use a d-man as a screen and wrist one from his off-foot, the way he zigs and zags entering the zone, the tricky backhand pass, etc.
I actually think Seguin will become even MORE like Datsyuk as he develops. In the OHL, he can get crazy separation on d-men, and he won't be able to do that as often in the NHL, so you'll see more east-west play. Same thing with blasting all kinds of odd-angle shots.
I don't know if he'll ever be able to freeze goalies and d-men like Dats, but who can? Same thing with picking pockets at the blue lines. But I think Tyler has a lot of Datsyuk's style in his game as a high-IQ tricky two-way playmaking center.
has a great video of Seguin. I'd be surprised if somebody watched that video and did not come away with Datsyuk.
Seguin doesn't have the unique stride that Dats does, and I think he has one more tool (a lethal one-timer), but the hockey sense and offensive zone decisionmaking is eerie. The way he'll use a d-man as a screen and wrist one from his off-foot, the way he zigs and zags entering the zone, the tricky backhand pass, etc.
I actually think Seguin will become even MORE like Datsyuk as he develops. In the OHL, he can get crazy separation on d-men, and he won't be able to do that as often in the NHL, so you'll see more east-west play. Same thing with blasting all kinds of odd-angle shots.
I don't know if he'll ever be able to freeze goalies and d-men like Dats, but who can? Same thing with picking pockets at the blue lines. But I think Tyler has a lot of Datsyuk's style in his game as a high-IQ tricky two-way playmaking center.
SDig14
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This he'll be like Stastny, without the injury problems. Simluar numbers as well.
I know he's no Yzerman, Toews or Sakic...
Which one of these doesn't fit yet? I gave you a hint...
GretzkytoKurri9917
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Seguin isn't a proven winner. In fact, he pretty much disappeared in the playoffs against Windsor. He's a center that really started getting attention in his draft year. He is most likely going to go second overall. He can score goals just as well as he can make plays. He can kill penalties.
There is only one other player in the NHL that is exactly like what was mentioned above. His name is Patrick Marleau.
Tyler Seguin = Patrick Marleau. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.
There is only one other player in the NHL that is exactly like what was mentioned above. His name is Patrick Marleau.
Tyler Seguin = Patrick Marleau. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.
BHD
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The reason Seguin isn't a winner is because his supporting cast wasn't as deep as Taylor Hall's. The only other Whaler I can think of off the top of my head is Michal Jordan. Windsor on the hand; Kassian, Henrique, Ellis, Fowler, Ryan, Timmens, Cundari, Wellwood, Johnston, Mitchell, Nemisz, Young.
I watched the Windsor/Plymoth series and Seguin's mates just couldn't keep up with Windsor.
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I really like the Datsyuk and Stasny comparison's. The more I watch him the more i think he falls somewhere in between those 2 guys.
Michael Brand Eggs
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Marleau isn't a very good comparison because his style of play is more about his physical gifts; being a fantastic skater, big, strong, etc. If you ask me, Marleau isn't a very creative offensive player. His hockey sense isn't bad, especially defensively, but he just is not a cerebral player. That's why it doesn't shock me at all that his best season comes as he's been playing the wing with two really dynamic offensive guys.
Seguin has that X factor. He's a decisionmaker, and he's a really creative player. I don't think he'll ever be a Marleau type player, especially not because you think his career achievements line up with Marleau's.
Thanks for that link, it was sublime! Now, I have a clearer mind in which one to choose between Hall and Seguin after reading that....
Cherko
I actually think Seguin is more physical and has better goal scoring ability than Datsyuk, but his ability to dangle is very similar.
Michael Brand Eggs
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Probably two top 3 picks for Phil Kessel on a rebuilding team. Horrible trade. I could of understood if Toronto was a playoff team that needed a sniper.
Trade was done last summer...the same time MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT THE LEAFS WOULD BE A PLAYOFF TEAM...**** went sour, it happens...
Its not like the trade was done at this years trade deadline....
and by most people you really mean leaf fans right?? cause most people who aren't gaga over the leafs had them pegged to miss the playoffs.
I can't really compare him to another player right now. I'd like to if he's going to be the goal scorer or the play maker or both.
One thing I've really liked about the kid is infront of the camera he's comfortable and usually ends up laughing for most of the interview. I like a guy/kid that can lose the seriousness.
One thing I've really liked about the kid is infront of the camera he's comfortable and usually ends up laughing for most of the interview. I like a guy/kid that can lose the seriousness.
So true, but it's not just a new thing. They've been throwing around Yzerman comparisons for years. It's ridiculous.
I forget most of them, but a couple I remember - Stu Barnes, Brandon Connolly (yes Brandon), Tim Connolly, and about 700 more that I forget.
It would be fun to compile a list from these scouts that make these comparisons to see just how ridiculous they are year after year.
I always liked John Ferguson Senior's "Oleg Tverdovsky is the next Bobby Orr".
Tim Connolly was no where near Yzerman's level. Yzerman's abilities in the 80s and early 90s were incredible. Tim Connolly shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.
If the Internet and You Tube had been around in the late 80s early 90s, Yzerman would have gotten more attention than Ovechkin gets know for skilled plays. People truly have no idea how amazing Yzerman was back then. And Yzerman was a lot better defensively back then than people give him credit for.
I don't think Seguin is anywhere near that either or Yzerman in the 2nd half of his career either.
I agree. I just saw him on TSN's Combine show. That was the first time I've seen him interviewed in a setting like that. I like him. He actually has a personality.
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EJ McGuire compared him to either Pat Kane or Joe Thornton....
This and the Spezza comparison seem most apt. While he isn't as big as either, he stickhandles the same style, away from his body to entice stickchecks from opponents, then drawing the puck closer to himself while stickhandling with the same grace.
I would say he compares to Rod Brind'Amour, built like a rock and just is solid in every zone and works hard.
I think he'll have to same kind of production in his career as well, but you can never tell for sure.
I think he'll have to same kind of production in his career as well, but you can never tell for sure.
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Tyler Seguin looks exactly like that little kid from Punk'd...
...does anyone remember that little kid? It's been killing me for weeks, "Who does Seguin remind me of?" It just clicked. He looks exactly like that annoying little MTV kid.
EDIT: Total waste of space, I know. Feel free to ignore this useless thread. I just HAD to put that out there. It's been driving me nuts WAY too long.
...does anyone remember that little kid? It's been killing me for weeks, "Who does Seguin remind me of?" It just clicked. He looks exactly like that annoying little MTV kid.
EDIT: Total waste of space, I know. Feel free to ignore this useless thread. I just HAD to put that out there. It's been driving me nuts WAY too long.
