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To get back on track, how much longer will it be until Stueztle is considered the Sens best player???
C Tim Stützle (2020, 3rd, OTT) Part 2
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He could be in the discussion with a good off season of training and more experience. He's been getting on the right side of battles more frequently and is fighting through checks better but some more strength would go along way. He still has games where he is forcing too many plays through tough areas of the ice, that's probably the biggest hurdle right now.
Probably won't happen this year but he's making some really nice progression at the moment on both sides of the puck. He would flash his dynamic skill set early on and it was mostly when he had time and space in transition, but he's starting to make plays in tight areas. He was a pretty much a non-factor on the cycle but now he's coming off the boards with the puck and making plays. His defensive positioning has improved and he applies back pressure more effectively and of late neither of those things stand out in a bad way, I think the biggest issue defensively are the turnovers.
Outside of trying to do too much with the puck, the turnovers are also a result of lack of strength. He can get outmuscled but a big part of it is that he is doing a lot with his lower half and his skating that some times he losses control of his upper body and mishandles the puck. He also likes the puck pretty far infront of him so that's factoring in but a stronger core would probably solve that issue.
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Next year some time as he gains experience and strength.. He has everything going for him to be.
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The Devilish Buffoon
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I think Brady is in a clear tier of his own but could certainly argue Stutz is best of the rest. Stutz should separate himself at the top sometime in the next 1.5 - 2.5 yrs
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McSpecial DraiBlend
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Love this player. Sky is the limit and he doesn't look like a rookie at all in the viewings i've had of him. He could quite possibly come away as the best player from the draft
NuxFan09
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It looks like Stutzle has found a niche as a LW. Is this just a "playing him on the wing in his rookie season" thing and he'll eventually be groomed as a C or is he a winger through and through?
RuthlessLieutenant
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The plan is to have him on the wing this year and give him looks on C next year and see what he can do. Personally I don't see him as a center but hopefully he can fill that role.
Wrong, I would almost never draft a goalie in the first round. Goalies' ability barely even correlates to where they were drafted. The high-end goalies' draft positions are all over the place. Compare to forwards for example - not the same.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Thats not completely true.
If you are drafting 19th, it's highly unlikely that you are getting the best forward or defenseman, but at 19 you may get the best goalie. While it is true that the development of an 18 year old goalie may be more unpredictable than an 18 year old forward, if you are drafting an elite goalie as opposed to a good forward, you start with way more margin for error.
Raccoon Jesus
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How's he hanging in the dog days of the season? Haven't gotten to click on the Sens in the last couple of weeks
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Up and down, as expected. He hasnt scored much - no goals in 8 and only 1 in 17. He does have 10 pts in that span, so far from anemic, but he seems to have been shooting a bit less and his puck luck swung from very good to not so good. His mistakes are steadily decreasing although still present and still plenty of learning to be done positionally.
I would argue that he has not even been our best rookie for the last little stretch, but he has certainly remained as one of our most consistent offensive threats and our most creative player.
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I was surprised he played wing during his 2nd WJC this past Dec/Jan.
I think he'll be like a Paul Kariya in that he has the skill-set of a elite playmaking center but plays the wing. And really if you look around you see centers are becoming more and more two-way threats as they have such huge responsibility in their own end. We see more and more often now centers coming from the amateur ranks end up wingers in the NHL as they don't have the attributes to defend down low the way centers need to be able to do now.
I think he ends up a superstar scoring LW when it's all said and done.
Well said but I hope his long time Center will be better than Steve Ruchin
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There are a fair amount of dazzling plays to get into shooting position only to fire it at the crest of the goalie or miss the net entirely.
As he was advertised as more of a playmaker than a scorer, I'm not entirely surprised.
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I think he will still score his fair share of goals. His finishing rate should improve slightly (he's currently shooting 8% and his linemates are shooting 9.9%) and he will likely shoot more than his current rate when he's in his prime. But I agree, his playmaking is more of a threat than his shooting.
This was also, correctly said about Draisaitl. A few years later he scored 50 goals. Obviously there is no guarantee Stützle will develop his shot in the same way, but he knows that it is an area he needs to improve and he has the right attitude and willingness to do so.
So while I will always expect him to be more of the set up guy, I am pretty confident that his shot will develop to the point where he will become a decent shooting threat that opposing dmen and goalies will have to respect.
I am really looking forward to see what he can do in a season, with a real training camp, after a summer without injury *knocks on wood*, and being a bit more used to the NHL in terms of speed, level of competition the number of games played.
I always get nervous when German players get drafted early (or in the past drafted at all), worried they may bust. But after this season so far I am pretty confident that Tim won't bust and even has a good chance to live to up or exceed expectations of his draft position.
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He's been quiet recently in the games we have played. I think teams are really shutting down our youth in Batherson, Stuztle, Tkachuk. Norris is the only one that has chipped in with his points more consistently.
Stutzle's season has been a success, in that it seems that playing in the NHL was the right decision. He's developing his talent in areas that were originally not NHL-calibre (board battles, limiting risky plays); he hasn't been injured; and he's playing a physical game. And he's putting up points!
I wonder if 18-19-year-old players would benefit from playing every 2nd game, allowing for more recovery time and strength training.
I'm sure it doesn't benefit the team in the short term, as he's an above-replacement impact player, and it means another player would be yo-yoed in and out of the lineup. It's purely a player-development protocol.
Has any young rookie been handled this way, as opposed to being sent to the AHL?
I wonder this as the Senators try to sign the UND players into their pro careers too.
I wonder if 18-19-year-old players would benefit from playing every 2nd game, allowing for more recovery time and strength training.
I'm sure it doesn't benefit the team in the short term, as he's an above-replacement impact player, and it means another player would be yo-yoed in and out of the lineup. It's purely a player-development protocol.
Has any young rookie been handled this way, as opposed to being sent to the AHL?
I wonder this as the Senators try to sign the UND players into their pro careers too.
Raccoon Jesus
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It's tough because as you point out--you really want the guy playing the minutes/role you're training him for. If the guy is good enough to skate in an NHL top six immediately and handle those minutes, it's hard to take him out of even 33% of games, as it often leaves a big gaping hole. I guess teams like ours have that luxury especially in a year like this, but it's sort of a catch-22 between icing your best team and 'optimal' prospect development. I'd also wonder if it sends the wrong message to the other youngsters. But I sure don't think it's a bad idea, I do think this shortened year helps players get used to the marathon. IE Vilardi on the Kings is really feeling the struggle as he now is playing more hard games than he ever has, hence my question about TS earlier re: the 'dog days' of the season and your idea re: slow burn development at NHL level. It's kind of a rookie wall once the adrenaline/newness wears off and the grind really begins.
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Samsquanch
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Kids going to have a massive season next year. It seems like he and fellow rookie Shane Pinto have found some chemistry together, and the Sens have found their future 2nd line.
