C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Bedard is 5 foot 9½ 186 pound physically mature 17 year old.
What happens next year for Bedard when/if in same situation what Wright?

Lots other junior players who are not physically mature, yet they still play really good,
even dominate, they have room to improve, in every area of their game

Well then, what about Shane Wright & Connor Bedard?

It could be that Wright peaked, matured at very early age
and haven't worked on his game much at all, sure he did
lose entire season of development and this season has gone
how it has gone.

| however, dude is only 18, i think we will see the truth
to Wright's situation in his last ELC year |


What if the same happens/has happened for Bedard?
its not like Bedard is McDavid level prospect you know.
- we cannot all be gods of hockey.. lol

If Connor Bedard stops working on his game
stops trying to get better, learning new stuff etc. etc.

I have a body of a pro, i'm dominating in here at junior level
both in CHL and at International, i'm going to be drafted 1st overall,
i'm ready, ready to take the Calder.

You never know how these things go.

Good luck Shane Wright

Why are you comparing Bedard to Wright? Because they are nothing alike.

Do you just go around doubting 1st overall forwards from North America hoping to eventually be right? Because you did the same thing with Matthews (lol), Hughes (lol), Lafreniere, Wright, and now Bedard. Heck you've even thrown shade at McDavid.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

You legit started this by responding to my message below telling me to show my work:



And yet you want me to "show my work" in a way that contradicts my statement to you. You need to pick a lane because your argument keeps changing. I didn't dispute his "smarts" - the point was that's a far more subjective component to measure than his physical maturity, yet you acted like his smarts were obvious and his early physical maturity was not and needed proof.

I believe his early physical maturity is driving his recent struggles to some extent. You don't. That's fine. It's subjective anyway. But just because some scouts didn't have concerns about his physical maturity affecting his long term potential doesn't mean that (a) they were right; or (b) it isn't. The success rate on scouting (or any of our takes, mine included) is low.

What I asked you to show your work on was how his early physical maturity was driving his recent struggles and you haven't shown that.

One of things that junior-aged players struggle with the most when trying to make the jump to the NHL is adjusting to the strength and fitness of NHLers. If a junior-aged player were to struggle with this, it would stand to reason that it's a player who is not strong, or physically mature, and still has to develop physically.

You've said that these things don't apply to Wright and yet his early physical maturity is a reason he's struggling?

You are right, that is subjective.

 

[William H Bonney]

What I asked you to show your work on was how his early physical maturity was driving his recent struggles and you haven't shown that.

One of things that junior-aged players struggle with the most when trying to make the jump to the NHL is adjusting to the strength and fitness of NHLers. If a junior-aged player were to struggle with this, it would stand to reason that it's a player who is not strong, or physically mature, and still has to develop physically.

You've said that these things don't apply to Wright and yet his early physical maturity is a reason he's struggling?

You are right, that is subjective.

You keep moving the goal posts. You might be asking that now but that's not what you originally asked, nor does it have any relation to my response to your original post.

It's not a good look for you when you feel the need to fabricate positions for me. I never said that the fact that Wright was physically mature at a young age means he can't get stronger, can't physically develop more, or doesn't need to adjust to the strength and fitness of NHLers. Show your work.

 

[ottawa]

What the heck is going on here...this is textbook "how to screw up the development of a prospect"

 

[wetcoast]

Every time I click on a new post in this thread I'm hoping that it's news of him being sent down to get actual playing time but sadly it never happens.

Playing just over 8 MPG in 7 of the teams first 17 games just isn't very good development of any player.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Tonight was the 4th game in a row as a healthy scratch. It seems clear he'll sit the next one out and that will allow them to send him to the AHL on a 2 week conditioning stint and then go to the Canada WJC Camp in early December.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What in the hell is Seattle doing? Just send him to Kingston already.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Tonight was the 4th game in a row as a healthy scratch. It seems clear he'll sit the next one out and that will allow them to send him to the AHL on a 2 week conditioning stint and then go to the Canada WJC Camp in early December.

Hope you're right.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Hope you're right.

I hope I am as well. I have Wright in my sim keeper league and this has been exasperating to follow, it will be even more exasperating if he plays 10th game this season which means I will have to sign him for next season and start his ELC. AHL for 2 weeks -> WJC camp and then WJC tournament for a month -> Return to OHL in early January and traded to a top OHL contender is how this needs to play out.

 

[sandviper]

What the heck is going on here...this is textbook "how to screw up the development of a prospect"

Maybe they’ve secretly hired Ducharme as a skills coach and emailing Bergevin and Lefebvre for development advice?

 

[Torts]

At least he's getting paid...

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

At least he's getting paid...

Yup... He's enjoying those NHL paycheques that's forsure!!

 

[Jukurit]

Guys, it's okay. This just means that Wright has more time to practice playing the guitar.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Guys, it's okay. This just means that Wright has more time to practice playing the guitar.

Makes sense because it's the off season for golf, although I suppose he can continue to hone his craft at Top Golf.

 

[tmlmatus]

Yup... He's enjoying those NHL paycheques that's forsure!!

I sure hope its not him and his agent refusing to go to the OHL just because he is making more money sitting in the stands.

That would be the worst reasoning.

 

[Fatass]

Tonight was the 4th game in a row as a healthy scratch. It seems clear he'll sit the next one out and that will allow them to send him to the AHL on a 2 week conditioning stint and then go to the Canada WJC Camp in early December.

Then to his junior club after WJC?

 

[cmcneil02]

Then to his junior club after WJC?

Most likely the case yes.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Why are you comparing Bedard to Wright? Because they are nothing alike.

Do you just go around doubting 1st overall forwards from North America hoping to eventually be right? Because you did the same thing with Matthews (lol), Hughes (lol), Lafreniere, Wright, and now Bedard. Heck you've even thrown shade at McDavid.

Nobody homers like the Finns, brother.

 

[Rebels57]

What in the hell is Seattle doing? Just send him to Kingston already.

This is what happens when you have two of the biggest dopes in all of hockey, Francis and Hakstol, at the helm.

 

[Bubbles]

Tonight was the 4th game in a row as a healthy scratch. It seems clear he'll sit the next one out and that will allow them to send him to the AHL on a 2 week conditioning stint and then go to the Canada WJC Camp in early December.

I suppose this was the plan all along, just executed with incompetence. Feels like a high stakes poker game between Kingston and Seattle, with Wright in the middle. And what's the plan after the WJC?

 

[ponder]

The craziest thing is he already missed his D-1 season, due to the OHL COVID shutdown, and IMO that had quite a negative impact on his development. He needs the reps. So far Seattle making it 2 of the past 3 seasons where he’s getting essentially no real game action.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

All indications are he will be scratched again tonight, so that will be game #5.

I anticipate his assigning to the AHL for a conditioning stint is announced within 48 hours.

 

[Peasy]

After that hes likely off to the WJC I would think.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

All indications are he will be scratched again tonight, so that will be game #5.

I anticipate his assigning to the AHL for a conditioning stint is announced within 48 hours.

How long are these conditioning stints allowed to be for?

Kingston's falling back to around .500, so any notion of them potentially being a contender is proving false. So chances are his rights will be dealt around the New Year.

 

[majormajor]

How long are these conditioning stints allowed to be for?

I think two weeks.