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C Sam Steel - Regina Pats, WHL (2016, 30th, ANA)

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JetsFan815 said:
Better numbers than Mitch Marner's draft+1 year. Also doing in tougher league to score than the OHL and without Allstar linemates. What a player. Should be a bonafide #1 C in the NHL.
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Knights 15-16' - 4.69 GF/G
Pats 16-17' - 5.41 GF/G

He's also playing on the same team (possibly same line?) as Adam Brooks, the 2nd leading scoring in the WHL, trailing by just 3 points. Why bother pushing a narrative? He's having an excellent season, why not leave it at that? :help:
 
Captain Timo said:
Knights 15-16' - 4.69 GF/G
Pats 16-17' - 5.41 GF/G

He's also playing on the same team (possibly same line?) as Adam Brooks, the 2nd leading scoring in the WHL, trailing by just 3 points. Why bother pushing a narrative? He's having an excellent season, why not leave it at that? :help:
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He's not playing on the same line as Brooks and saying his PPG is better than Marner's at the same age is hardly pushing a narrative FFS :laugh:
 
Its funny because i was hoping Toronto would target him with their 31st.

I anticipate they already had their eyes on Korshkov. However for me it was kind of ironic that the guy i wanted was selected with the pick they traded to Anaheim that was 1 spot ahead of our next selection.

Steel was Bob Macs biggest surprise omission from team Canada this year. Seeing as they lacked a little bit of skill, they could have used him
 
Captain Timo said:
Knights 15-16' - 4.69 GF/G
Pats 16-17' - 5.41 GF/G

He's also playing on the same team (possibly same line?) as Adam Brooks, the 2nd leading scoring in the WHL, trailing by just 3 points. Why bother pushing a narrative? He's having an excellent season, why not leave it at that? :help:
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What narrative? Steel's PPG is currently 2.18, Marner in his D+1 year had 2.03. Steel's can still drop, but as of right now that's objectively true. It doesn't mean Steel > Marner AINEC, it means Steel's current PPG > Marner's PPG in his D+1 season, that's it. Marner was third in OHL scoring and played on a line with the 2nd and 5th leading scorers, Steel plays on the same team (not line) as the second leading scorer, and his highest scoring linemate is 10th (Dawson Leedahl). All of these things are true, and not a narrative.
 
JetsFan815 said:
Better numbers than Mitch Marner's draft+1 year. Also doing in tougher league to score than the OHL and without Allstar linemates. What a player. Should be a bonafide #1 C in the NHL.
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The WHL isn't tougher to score in, and even if it was, it doesn't translate better to NHL scoring. If you age and league adjust his stats his season is pretty much equal to Marner's, which is damn impressive. But, considering your obsession with Leafs players being overrated its no surprise you would want to create this debate.
 
Captain Timo said:
Knights 15-16' - 4.69 GF/G
Pats 16-17' - 5.41 GF/G

He's also playing on the same team (possibly same line?) as Adam Brooks, the 2nd leading scoring in the WHL, trailing by just 3 points. Why bother pushing a narrative? He's having an excellent season, why not leave it at that? :help:
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They play on different lines even strength but on the same 1st PP unit.
 
What's impressive with Steel, is it's been 20+ years since someone has been putting up these kind of PPG numbers in the WHL.

Obviously he isn't the best player to come in the last 20 years or so, but have to love what the kid is bringing to the game night in and night out.

Maybe he ends up being one of the steals of the draft, always a couple of guys, at least, picked late in 1st round or early 2nd round where people look back and go "omfg...can't believe we passed up on this guy"

Ironically, Ducks have a habit of picking these guys. Getzlaf -19th, Perry - 28th in 2003 (Maybe Jones and Steel and be the new Getlzaf/Perry)
Sami Vatanen - 106th, 2009
Rickard Rackell - 30th, 2011. John Gibson - 39th, 2011
Shea Theodore - 26th, 2013. Still early to say if he's a steal/bust/ok pick, but as of right now, looks like he's going to at least be a solid top 4 D in NHL.
 
wow, I had no idea how impressive his season actually has been. I hope he can continue at this pace to finish off the season.
 
who knows how he progresses - but one thing that i think bodes well for him in terms of projection, is that he isn't putting up these numbers in large part due to one dominant skill (size, speed, shot, ect.) that could be significantly less dominant at the next level. I am always skeptical of junior players who dominate juniors with one noticeable skill.
 
No matter how offensive loaded his current team is - several teams were in the juniors during the last 20 years - what makes me confident is the way he produces. It is not a physical aspect like it was with Emerson Etem, it is the way he thinks the game. I think when it comes to the current pro game this is the most important part of the game. Sure, his physicality has to improve and his skill is there but his head is already NHL ready.
 
Just saying the ducks should make a team store comic book

Sam Steel
Max Jones

sounds like the perfect duo for crime fighting
 
Addressing the fact that Steel currently has a higher PPG just means that Marner is being used as a measuring stick for the possibility of Steel being a talented NHLer, which Marner currently clearly is.

I don't think anyone here would claim Marner isn't a great NHLer so I too, fail to see what the big deal is.

Personally I'd be ecstatic if the Ducks could be at that talent level in the NHL. But also I'm taking this scoring rate with a grain of salt because I remember back in 2012 when it seemed the Ducks could conceivably pick 1st overall, I saw Yakupov's high numbers and thought for sure he would be a superstar by this point and we all know how that's worked out so far. I sure hope he ends up being a massive steal though. Having a future star in the system (that we didn't need a lottery pick to get) as Getzlaf and Perry start to tail off is huge.
 
Wow Ducks got really lucky with this guy. If he comes close to Marner's production level in the NHL that's gotta be one of the best value draft picks in the last couple years.
 
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