C Quinton Byfield - Sudbury Wolves, OHL (2020 Draft) II

[Nabrules]

What a monumental pick Byfield will be for Ottawa at 3. I still can’t believe it looks like he’ll be available for them there..

I also think Brady Tkachuk is the perfect type of winger for Byfield as he can “muck” it up in the corners and create space and time for QB. They could be a dynamic duo for sure. Add to that someone like Raymond or Perfetti and that could be pure magic.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

I also think Brady Tkachuk is the perfect type of winger for Byfield as he can “muck” it up in the corners and create for space and time for QB. They could be a dynamic duo for sure.

Ahhh man give us a new Legion of Doom! just need another winger!

 

[Rorschach]

But he wasn’t considered a better player than MacKinnon. Everything came together for Barkov in his 5th NHL season, the same amount of seasons it took for MacKinnon to break out.

I disagree on that. In his third year he had 59p in 66 games and had a +18. He was 6th in Selke voting. .89ppg that season, 2015-2016 as a two-way center. MacKinnon in 2015-16 had 52p and 72g, -4 for a .72ppg as a scoring forward.

I believe Barkov was first line for Florida while MacKinnon was second line but I’m not 100% on that. But clearly Barkov got there much sooner. Barkov’s next two seasons were similar and then he took another step forward after that.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I disagree on that. In his third year he had 59p in 66 games and had a +18. He was 6th in Selke voting. .89ppg that season, 2015-2016 as a two-way center. MacKinnon in 2015-16 had 52p and 72g, -4 for a .72ppg as a scoring forward.

I believe Barkov was first line for Florida while MacKinnon was second line but I’m not 100% on that. But clearly Barkov got there much sooner. Barkov’s next two seasons were similar and then he took another step forward after that.

Barkov is a really good player, but he’s no MacKinnon. You suggesting that based on WJC performances that MacKinnon should’ve been drafted lower than 1st overall?

 

[Nabrules]

With so many people talking about Mackinnon, it’s fair to point out what most likely led him to be ranked 1st by McKenzie and others was his playoff run, since more and more people had Jones 1 after the wjs.

I’m not saying Byfield would have been memorial cup MVP but a strong playoff run by he and Sudbury would’ve left his season more on a “positive” note since most people just harp on his wjs as he only played 9 games after because of injury and the virus.

 

[Scottkmlps]

What a monumental pick Byfield will be for Ottawa at 3. I still can’t believe it looks like he’ll be available for them there..

I also think Brady Tkachuk is the perfect type of winger for Byfield as he can “muck” it up in the corners and create space and time for QB. They could be a dynamic duo for sure. Add to that someone like Raymond or Perfetti and that could be pure magic.

How do you come to the concusion Byfield is looking like he will be available at #3? Or is that statment more or less another Sens fan thinking if they say it enough people will start to believe it?

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

With so many people talking about Mackinnon, it’s fair to point out what most likely led him to be ranked 1st by McKenzie and others was his playoff run, since more and more people had Jones 1 after the wjs.

I’m not saying Byfield would have been memorial cup MVP but a strong playoff run by he and Sudbury would’ve left his season more on a “positive” note since most people just harp on his wjs as he only played 9 games after because of injury and the virus.

Mackinnon was also playing on a team that, IIRC, went 21-3 without him during the season, a juggernaut. The Wolves, by comparison, were far from a guarantee to even make the OHL conference finals, even with Byfield playing fantastic. Guys like Rossi, Perfetti, Jarvis would have likely benefited more than Byfield from a full playoffs.

Actually the current situation is probably favorable to Byfield, along with some others like Raymond and Stutzle. They'll get a month+ of play before the draft to showcase to scouts the gains they've made over the summer. In fact, I'm almost certain the calls for Byfield at #1 will grow stronger during September, with Byfield putting up big numbers and Lafrenière not playing.

 

[Polar Bear]

Actually the current situation is probably favorable to Byfield, along with some others like Raymond and Stutzle. They'll get a month+ of play before the draft to showcase to scouts the gains they've made over the summer. In fact, I'm almost certain the calls for Byfield at #1 will grow stronger during September, with Byfield putting up big numbers and Lafrenière not playing.

Byfield, might not even go 2nd, honestly (though I would take him there). Again, if the Rangers stay at 1, they are taking the unanimous and safest player in Laf. Only thing that prevents that from happening is if some made us a stupidly good offer impossible to turn down.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Ahhh man give us a new Legion of Doom! just need another winger!

I had hoped all year Detroit would have the lottery smile on them to put Rasmussen - Byfield - Mantha together...

 

[bl02]

What a monumental pick Byfield will be for Ottawa at 3. I still can’t believe it looks like he’ll be available for them there..

I also think Brady Tkachuk is the perfect type of winger for Byfield as he can “muck” it up in the corners and create space and time for QB. They could be a dynamic duo for sure. Add to that someone like Raymond or Perfetti and that could be pure magic.

Brady Tkachuk would be a perfect winger for anyone. Guy is a beast

 

[Osprey]

How do you come to the concusion Byfield is looking like he will be available at #3? Or is that statment more or less another Sens fan thinking if they say it enough people will start to believe it?

He's referring to a rumor allegedly reported by Bob McKenzie on Tuesday that LA "favors" Stutzle. It may not be true, but I wouldn't blame a Sens fan who wants Byfield for getting excited by it.

 

[Polar Bear]

He's referring to a rumor allegedly reported by Bob McKenzie on Tuesday that LA "favors" Stutzle. It may not be true, but I wouldn't blame a Sens fan who wants Byfield for getting excited by it.

It's not crazy either, since Bob has Stutzle a 2 on the board, since while Byfield/Sutzle each got 5 2nd place votes, Byfield had some teams rank him as low as 6.

 

[Fatass]

It's not crazy either, since Bob has Stutzle a 2 on the board, since while Byfield/Sutzle each got 5 2nd place votes, Byfield had some teams rank him as low as 6.

I wonder what holes scouts see in Byfield’s game to rank him as low as sixth?

 

[Polar Bear]

I wonder what holes scouts see in Byfield’s game to rank him as low as sixth?

Might be that between the two, he might have a harder/longer time reaching his ceiling or his relatively weak WJC. But who knows for sure?

 

[simonedvinsson]

It's not crazy either, since Bob has Stutzle a 2 on the board, since while Byfield/Sutzle each got 5 2nd place votes, Byfield had some teams rank him as low as 6.

I’m still holding out hope that LA take Stützle and Ottawa takes Sanderson, which are both possible, however unlikely, based on Bob’s intel. That would leave Byfield for Detroit at 4.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I’m still holding out hope that LA take Stützle and Ottawa takes Sanderson, which are both possible, however unlikely, based on Bob’s intel. That would leave Byfield for Detroit at 4.

Seems a bit unrealistic. I mean Byfield and Stutzle are the clear #2 and #3 prospects in this year's Draft. I suppose Ottawa could go off the board, but it more realistic that it happens at 5 than 3, where the players are more interchangeable.

It sucks for Detroit, but it's really a three-player Draft. Kind of reminds me of the NBA Draft last year. You have an elite player (Laf and Zion), an excellent prospect (Ja Morant/Byfield); and a really good one with a lot of potential (Barrett and Stutzle). The rest of the Draft is filled with interchangeable guys.

 

[Polar Bear]

I’m still holding out hope that LA take Stützle and Ottawa takes Sanderson, which are both possible, however unlikely, based on Bob’s intel. That would leave Byfield for Detroit at 4.

I really doubt that happens. They'd sooner go off the board at 5 than at 3. I feel for Detroit, because not only were they just so horrid, but they are on the outside looking in of what seems to be a rather sizable drop after Laf, and then the next tier of Byfield/Stutzle.

 

[Polar Bear]

Seems a bit unrealistic. I mean Byfield and Stutzle are the clear #2 and #3 prospects in this year's Draft. I suppose Ottawa could go off the board, but it more realistic that it happens at 5 than 3, where the players are more interchangeable.

It sucks for Detroit, but it's really a three-player Draft. Kind of reminds me of the NBA Draft last year. You have an elite player (Laf and Zion), an excellent prospect (Ja Morant/Byfield); and a really good one with a lot of potential (Barrett and Stutzle). The rest of the Draft is filled with interchangeable guys.

I'd argue Stuzle and Byfield are closer than what Morant and RJ were as prospects, but point well taken.

 

[thedarkstark]

I wonder what holes scouts see in Byfield’s game to rank him as low as sixth?

Work ethic most likely. From all the reports I've read he takes shifts off especially in the more grind it out type games. To me that's a giant red flag, if you're 17-18 years old and you don't put in the energy/effort you're certainly not going to do it over an 82 game season against tougher competition.

 

[simonedvinsson]

Seems a bit unrealistic. I mean Byfield and Stutzle are the clear #2 and #3 prospects in this year's Draft. I suppose Ottawa could go off the board, but it more realistic that it happens at 5 than 3, where the players are more interchangeable.

It sucks for Detroit, but it's really a three-player Draft. Kind of reminds me of the NBA Draft last year. You have an elite player (Laf and Zion), an excellent prospect (Ja Morant/Byfield); and a really good one with a lot of potential (Barrett and Stutzle). The rest of the Draft is filled with interchangeable guys.

I never claimed it was realistic! I always set my hopes higher than my expectations. Bob said two scouts out of ten had a list that went:

1. Lafreniere
2. Stützle
3. Sanderson
4. ...
5. ...
6. Byfield

So I will hold to those slivers of hope that (a) Ottawa is one of those teams and that (b) LA is one of the five that had Stützle at two.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I never claimed it was realistic! I always set my hopes higher than my expectations. Bob said two scouts out of ten had a list that went:

1. Lafreniere
2. Stützle
3. Sanderson
4. ...
5. ...
6. Byfield

So I will hold to that slivers of hope that (a) Ottawa is one of those teams and that (b) LA is one of the five that had Stützle at two.

Well, good luck with that. I mean after the year you guys had, you should get someone on your wishlist.

 

[Sparky206]

Wont happen, they take byfield/stutzle at 3 and whoever is left of drysdale and sanderson at 5 and if theyre lucky they get to choose.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Really like the potential ceiling of Byfield. If he reaches his ceiling, I think he’s a more valuable piece to a team’s success than any player in this coming draft. The concern is will he reach this ceiling? He could bust too, or simply plateau at a third line, big body, energy (checking) kind of guy. He’s a big guy now, who is dominating playing against much smaller boys. How will his game translate to playing against men, who equal to him in physicality?
Could be a huge win to the team that takes him, but also has risk.

His floor is higher than that. He has reached that floor now ; if not exceeded it. He is bound to get stronger at a minimum, if he has zero development .. hes already an energy 3rd line type easily and likely an excellent one.

IMO Lafreniere is in a tier above right now.. but if Byfield develops properly he could be in the same tier in the not too distant future.
I really like how Lafreniere plays .. He can do it all..

I can't believe NHL scouts had him 6 in McKenzie's 10 scout poll.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

His floor is higher than that. He has reached that floor now ; if not exceeded it. He is bound to get stronger at a minimum, if he has zero development .. hes already an energy 3rd line type easily and likely an excellent one.

IMO Lafreniere is in a tier above right now.. but if Byfield develops properly he could be in the same tier in the not too distant future.
I really like how Lafreniere plays .. He can do it all..

I can't believe NHL scouts had him 6 in McKenzie's 10 scout poll.

Probably the same dummies who decided to rank Kopitar lower because he was born in Slovenia, despite the fact that he was playing in Sweden. Those who rank Byfield lower are also likely the same nitwits who put way too much weight into the WJC numbers.

 

[Nabrules]

How do you come to the concusion Byfield is looking like he will be available at #3? Or is that statment more or less another Sens fan thinking if they say it enough people will start to believe it?

I’m a VAN and PHI fan, so I have no horses in this race thank you very much. Bob McKenzie said LA has more interest in Stutzle than Byfield and if he’s saying it, you can take that to the bank.