OgeeOgelthorpe
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C Quinton Byfield - Sudbury Wolves, OHL (2020 Draft) II
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bsu
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It is Byfield's (who this thread is about) entire game...... ? What are you talking about? Everytime he skate was on the ice the camera was on that is his "entire" game unless you want video of him on the bench drinking gatorade. There is no fallacy, both those videos show his entire game on the ice where ice hockey players play.
Breakfast of Champs
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I mean 1 game is a small sample size not that I want to see him on the bench- is that really what you thought I meant? *whooosh*
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There's 2 full games there, and if you need resources some of us have access to free hockey games from every league you can send a message so you can watch some full games.
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To be honest I am a Q guy, I usually try to attend around 50-100 games per season between the Q, Jr A, and Midget. I have no real reason to need to scout Byfield - I just find it hilarious that "2 full games" is enough to justify what you are saying about his game when in reality there is so much more to it than his straight line speed.
Why do I feel this is going to age as well as your infamous Matthews takes.
You are honestly the equivalent of First Take on this board. Just extremes one way or the other with a ton of stat watching. And, Matthews in year 4, already has 38 more regular-season goals than 120.
Byfield's ceiling is the best player in the league. Although that applies to a lot of players. No one expected guys like MSL or Kucherov to enter that discussion, it is just a highly-unlikely scenario. But, his floor is one of the best centers of the past 30 years? That's just insanity, even McDavid or Crosby's floor wasn't that. Byfield's floor is a valued 3rd liner, which also isn't a likely outcome but possible. You seem to find one guy you really like, then pit him against someone and then put crazy predictions both ways (just look at Laine vs Matthews or Kakko vs Hughes). Your posts have no sense of nuance or even acknowledging the unpredictability of projecting Hockey players who are younger than 20 and not in the NHL. You seem to be doing the same with Stutzle vs Byfield for some reason. I consider myself well versed in prospects, but I always acknowledge there is a ton of room to be wrong and there is a ton of variance with draft-eligible guys.
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I didn't say it is enough to justify, I said there's 2 full games of Byfield available to watch if you don't have access to see anything else. There's plenty of free footage everywhere.
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If his worst case scenario is Joe Thornton, why isn't he a lock to go 1OA?
What are the adjustments? Is age included, or is just scoring transferred by scoring rate. I've done this myself before simplistically without era adjustments. But, where did you get this from? Just would like to know the methodology.
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Its just based on year. Average scoring per year, turned into a coefficient based on the average of all years, and then multiplied by total points per game.
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Someone correct me if Im wrong, but is Byfield not the youngest player on this list (or right up there at the top)?
And I say this with all due respect to my beloved home town Wolves, but being the "lone wolf" up here like QB55 is most nights, that is certainly a handicap for him that cannot go unstated. He is the team, period.
I mean he factored in on 36% of the teams total goals while missing 18 games out of a possible 63gp. Like what in the actual f***.
Ive said it before in this thread, but like come on, for a team that was 1st place in its own division, that is beyond silliness. Truly.
Pretty sure he's the youngest, but in some cases the difference is insignificant. I mean Suzuki and Gagner are only born 9 days ahead. Even the difference between he and Marner even with an age adjustment would be sizable comparing an early-May to a late-August with the gap.
Also, being the best player on a team comes with benefits. Means tons of opportunity, especially to have the PP run through you, and extra ice-time.
Samsquanch
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It only means something if you do something positive with it. The Wolves were 1st place in their division and he was being used in all situations, not just the PP.
This wasnt a case of "someone has to be the best player on a bad team".
Being as young as he is and playing such a big role on his team while having the stats and results to back up every inch of it - is very noteworthy. To say the least.
There is a world of difference between being on the powerhouse London Kinghts, and being the lone star on the Sudbury Wolves. Obviously.
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I'd rate Byfield as a superior prospect entering the draft. Not to mention that Patrick also had injury issues.
From Bob Mckenzie’s Final draft rankings show, “Byfield projects as a big point producing 1C”, while for his 2017 final draft rankings show, he said Patrick projects as a “solid two-way top 6 centre”. So the scouts view them as at least a tier apart!
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Well as many remember 2017 was seen as a pretty “sub-par” top of the draft class. Guys like Pettersson, Glass, Mittlestadt and Vilardi all were seen more as top 6 players too but Hischier and Patrick we’re safer bets to reach that.
Guys like Makar and Heiskanen were wildcards since one played lower level hockey and the other was harder to evaluate since he was playing in a European men’s league .
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Ranger fan here who will admit to a good degree of trepidation about drafting Laf. Byfield offers a ridiculous combination of skill and physical attributes. Hard to believe he isn’t the consensus number one given that, but I’ve convinced myself that that speaks more to how special Laf truly is.
Glad Byfield won’t be in the Metro at least.
Glad Byfield won’t be in the Metro at least.
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Really like the potential ceiling of Byfield. If he reaches his ceiling, I think he’s a more valuable piece to a team’s success than any player in this coming draft. The concern is will he reach this ceiling? He could bust too, or simply plateau at a third line, big body, energy (checking) kind of guy. He’s a big guy now, who is dominating playing against much smaller boys. How will his game translate to playing against men, who equal to him in physicality?
Could be a huge win to the team that takes him, but also has risk.
Could be a huge win to the team that takes him, but also has risk.
Samsquanch
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Sens fan here, I wanted the #2OV just as badly as the #1OV.
Our team needs a centerman, but if we got that #1 OV pick it would have been impossible to pass up on Laf, so it would have been perfect for us to just "settle" for Byfield at #2.
Im just praying to god that the rumors are true about LA preferring Stutzle over Byfield, and my dream scenario still has a chance of coming true.
