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C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part IV

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ReginKarlssonLehner said:
He doesn't have anything close to Malkin's east-west or possession game. Who's the last dominant North South big body C? He's absolutely deadly on the rush and in close. His game closer to Sundin than Malkin.
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I didn't say or mean "he's literally Malkin," even stylistically--only real comparison is he has that unique blend of size, speed, power, and skill that's rarely replicated and when he decides to hit the 'on' switch there's damn near no one that can stop him. He's really learning to be much more assertive amongst men, not just content to ninja his way into open ice (which has astounding for a guy of his size and ability--i have no clue how he gets so open in front so frequently) but to take the ice by force, establishing body position and his body to shield. He's already cartoonishly big amongst most men and those his size he can outskate/outskill. There's a tool for every situation and his development has become much more about how to select each one rather than if they exist.

Demonstrably the vast majority of his pro goals have been from the circles/slot and in rather than on the rush, so that particular over-parroted critique has already been dispelled.

The thing that's really starting to become noticeable is his hunger--previously he's been criticized for being passive,like he's trying to be TOO good of a teammate, deferential to others--he's starting to take the bull by the horns much more frequently and wants to be a difference maker, that OT goal the other night was a good example of a 'f*** it, I'm going' moment that never would have happened in the past.

Also they've got a beauty line going of Byfield-Vilardi-Madden and we're starting to think that sort of setup could be together for years and years, Byfield and Vilardi might be coming up together again shortly and we may be seeing a third line of Iafallo-Byfield-Vilardi in short order, which would be an excellent initiation into the NHL (protected by Kempe-Kopitar-Brown(or etc) and Moore-Danault-Arvidsson). And if not Iafallo, it could be any number of Brown/Athanasiou/Andersson/Kupari/Grundstrom/Frk (of note Frk and Vilardi also already have chemistry).
 
Stewie Griffin said:
I like the Eric/Jordan Staal comparisons a lot. He's not physical for someone of his size, but is a fantastic skater, with great skill.
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Sweetpotato said:
That's actually a really good comparable I've honestly never made that connection till now.
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I remember a few people positively using the Eric Staal comp especially before the draft and I think that's the best one so far. But Byfield's skating is seriously something to behold, i mean he could stand to refine it even more but some of the cuts he makes at high speed at his size are insane.
 
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WADEugottaBELAKthat said:
I kind of find the Kane-comparison a little untimely. I don't quite agree with it either. Kane has quicker feet in tight and a little bit more snarl, but that's about it. Byfield has that unique wingspan combined with special puck-protection skills that really makes him hard to compare others to. If I were to make a comparison in style I would go with Jordan Staal or Keith Primeau. Both of those guys were top-3 picks, 6 '5-ish, lanky with skills. But I think his offensive game will round out more like Eric Staal's - that's the respect I have for his offensive potential ... though I certainly think it will take some years and that by that time Byfield will have had to endure a good deal of bust-talk. I suppose I don't much trust the Kings' development team that much either, though. But I'm hoping this works out, because a Byfield that reaches his top-end potential in LA would be great for the league methinks.
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The wingspan

 
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bsu said:
They played similar games in Juniors imo. Yes I know they play different positions I said play style they both scored a lot of their points off the rush in Juniors and were stronger, faster and more skilled than most they played against.
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Kane was 6'2 190 ish in junior, played a power forward style and though he was strong was definitely not stronger than everyone at that level. Byfield has better vision and is a much better playmaker than Kane
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Demonstrably the vast majority of his pro goals have been from the circles/slot and in rather than on the rush, so that particular over-parroted critique has already been dispelled.
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For reference, his 8 goals last year. When you add his goals from this year, I count only 3/11 off the rush. One of which was coming out of the penalty box, and another was his 3-on-3 OT goal from a few nights ago.
 
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All of a sudden, he's on "fire" - too strong a word.

Perhaps the Kings will ask him to play at the WJRS in the summer - he owes us one GOOD tournament.
 
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He’s putting it together and on the scoresheet. Matter of time before he’s up. If he can solidify that Kupari line, Kings are going to be dangerous.
 
QB playing in the AHL as an 18 and now 19 year old. Key development years played in the Pros. Hard to imagine a kid that only turns 20 this August following this path. I think patience is key here, some Kings fans want him as the 3C savior. He won't need to come in to be a savior. We got depth on the roster to keep developing going while improving the big club. Whatever happens in the 2nd half, he will at least get some playoff experience this year either in the AHL or NHL(if we make it), which will be huge for him and the rest of the pool.
 
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Mats26 said:
QB playing in the AHL as an 18 and now 19 year old. Key development years played in the Pros. Hard to imagine a kid that only turns 20 this August following this path. I think patience is key here, some Kings fans want him as the 3C savior. He won't need to come in to be a savior. We got depth on the roster to keep developing going while improving the big club. Whatever happens in the 2nd half, he will at least get some playoff experience this year either in the AHL or NHL(if we make it), which will be huge for him and the rest of the pool.
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Wild went to slower development route with Boldy, as did the Avs with Makar. There is something to be said for not rushing a prospect, and ignoring team/fan/media pressure to bring him up ASAP. The wise thing to do with Byfield is to wait till he is dominating the AHL before bringing him up.
 
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That's the beauty of the current situation--Byfield could come in and play 3C with major insulation and little pressure with the team playing so well and everyone looking good.

If not,he could stay down in the AHL and keep steamrolling.

Either way, things are looking gooooood.

I'd like to see him get at least a few games with how he made the team out of camp and with Kupari's recent struggles...but I get the feeling he wouldn't be going back down. Probably best to just leave him simmering and bursting at the seams to get out.
 
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TomKosto said:
Eric and Jordan Staal are not really the same kind of player. Is Byfield a top two way player like Jordan?
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No, QB is not the guy that you want to shutdown the other teams big C. I don't get the Jordan Staal comparison. Not now anyways.

Eric Staal with better skating\hands is more comparable. But is he only 19, no way of knowing how this unicorn will turn out.
 
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I got to see him a ton in Sudbury and IMO he is a case of his size allowing him to do well in jr.
However he never seemed to have the elite skills most top 5 picks seem to have. If I were a betting man I say his NHL role will be 3c occasional 2c.
Its not like L.A made a bad pick, looking at the options at the time, Byfield looked to be the best C available.
 
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The one Kings line that's identity-less right now is the third line since it's just leftovers, lol.

We might see a Turcotte-Byfield with Vilardi-Fagemo-Brown at RW 3rd line with the Kings soon.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:


The one Kings line that's identity-less right now is the third line since it's just leftovers, lol.

We might see a Turcotte-Byfield with Vilardi-Fagemo-Brown at RW 3rd line with the Kings soon.
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There is zero chance we see an all kid line right now. The team is rolling and you can't mess too much with it. Once AA and Grundy are back some kids will go down to the farm. I do expect QB to be called up when the next wave of COVID or injuries hits. Of course this all depends if we make trades to open up spots.
 
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Mats26 said:
There is zero chance we see an all kid line right now. The team is rolling and you can't mess too much with it. Once AA and Grundy are back some kids will go down to the farm. I do expect QB to be called up when the next wave of COVID or injuries hits. Of course this all depends if we make trades to open up spots.
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I dont' see Turcotte-Kupari-Brown as significantly 'different' from Turcotte-Byfield-Brown. It's a possibility.
 
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