C Oliver Moore - University of Minnesota , NCAA (2023, 19th, CHI)

[EbonyRaptor]

He's one I got it all wrong on. Really shows how much of a crapshoot it is to assess prospects. I watched a ton of him last year as I saw him as a potential steal relative to his perceived draft position. I felt that with better linemates and better finish, he could turn out to be Paul Kariya-lite. Instead it appears he may just be Paul Byron. Which still is OK for a 19th overall. But I thought he had more in him.

I think his floor is pretty good - as in a very good 3C who can play a 200' game with elite speed. I don't think we know what his ceiling is yet and I wouldn't say he can't become much better offensively. He turns 19 tomorrow so he's got a lot of learning and maturing in front of him.

 

[Faceboner]

The biggest thing for Moore is I think he needs to learn to be more effective as a complimentary player. He has that McDavid skating, but he doesn't have that McDavid puck game. If he can learn to use his teammates well, his speed can make him a 50-60 point player. If he doesn't and he's a tunnel-vision speed guy that thinks he can do more than he can and doesn't read well off his teammates, then the Paul Byron comparison is probably what he is and he only ends up a good bottom six guy.

Could work well on Bedard's wing

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Could work well on Bedard's wing

He could, but it usually takes certain types of players to work well with these stars. They need players that can anticipate their genius. It isn't as easy as they'll play you pucks right in front for a tap-in. Not everyone can fit with them.

 

[ello]

I think his floor is pretty good - as in a very good 3C who can play a 200' game with elite speed. I don't think we know what his ceiling is yet and I wouldn't say he can't become much better offensively. He turns 19 tomorrow so he's got a lot of learning and maturing in front of him.

This isn’t really directed at you, but Moore’s floor is way lower than that. It’s a general pet peeve of mine because floor means worst case scenario, so no, worst case scenario for Moore isn’t elite 3C. That’s actually a pretty decent outcome.

 

[Faceboner]

This isn’t really directed at you, but Moore’s floor is way lower than that. It’s a general pet peeve of mine because floor means worst case scenario, so no, worst case scenario for Moore isn’t elite 3C. That’s actually a pretty decent outcome.

Elite 3c is the lower end of his potential, I get what you mean though floor is bust for everyone and ceiling anyone could break out into a star, so I will say the upper end of his potential is a low end 1c that has a great transition game and two way play

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think his floor is higher than most. I also think his ceiling is lower than many think. I think he's definitely an NHL'er because of his skating and motor. At minimum, he's Tyler Motte, which is a good fourth liner.

Ceiling: Average 2nd line winger
Floor: Good fourth line winger.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

This isn’t really directed at you, but Moore’s floor is way lower than that. It’s a general pet peeve of mine because floor means worst case scenario, so no, worst case scenario for Moore isn’t elite 3C. That’s actually a pretty decent outcome.

I think more highly of him that you do but you could be right - too early to know for sure.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Haven't seen the Gophers this year and didn't notice him as much as some of the other forwards for the USA. Are there specific areas that will determine if he reaches his potential as a professional?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Two goals today against msu

 

[TLEH]

Best game of his college career so far tonight.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Two goals today against msu

 

[Larmer83]

Moore with 8 points(3g-5a) in the last 4 Big 10 games. That production comes while on the 2nd PP unit.

 

[DollardStLaurent]

Moore with 8 points(3g-5a) in the last 4 Big 10 games. That production comes while on the 2nd PP unit.

Moore has shifted into high gear. He now has 27 points in 27 games.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Putting Pitlick on that line has really helped.

 

[MNRube]

Putting Pitlick on that line has really helped.

agreed, Pitlick & Snugs are both good finishers who thrive in transition. Really solid duo for a speed demon like Moore to work

 

[TLEH]

Would like to see him slow down the game a bit more, certainly been playing well though these past two weekends.

He throws f***ing rocket passes.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Nice assist last night (One of two assists)


Moore now has 7 G + 22 A for 29 pts in 29 games

 

[mphmiles]

For a prospect that many people considered a bit "All tools, no toolbox," a PPG freshman year in the NCAA is very good.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Building off his strong rookie campaign with another strong season

20 GP
5 goals
12 assists
17 pts
+9

 

[MS]

Building off his strong rookie campaign with another strong season

20 GP
5 goals
12 assists
17 pts
+9

Not sure 'strong' is how I'd describe a 1st rounder with 14 goals in 59 college games.

He's a good prospect but an 80th percentile outcome is probably Wes Walz.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Not sure 'strong' is how I'd describe a 1st rounder with 14 goals in 59 college games.

He's a good prospect but an 80th percentile outcome is probably Wes Walz.

Checks out, scouting reports seem to implicitly mention his game translating well. Walz is pretty spot on, which is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[MS]

Checks out, scouting reports seem to implicitly mention his game translating well. Walz is pretty spot on, which is nothing to sneeze at.

He's a brilliant skater and his motor/defensive play will project but it will be a big stretch to get to a top-6 sort of result from him - small, not much of a finisher, no PP utility, not great offensive IQ. He's pretty much a dead straight projection to be a 30-point speedy bottom-6/PK defensive C.

I don't know if I've ever seen a prospect where the floor and the ceiling are so similar.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

He's a brilliant skater and his motor/defensive play will project but it will be a big stretch to get to a top-6 sort of result from him - small, not much of a finisher, no PP utility, not great offensive IQ. He's pretty much a dead straight projection to be a 30-point speedy bottom-6/PK defensive C.

I don't know if I've ever seen a prospect where the floor and the ceiling are so similar.

In a certain sense, you'd feel better grabbing this prospect in the mid 20s with your secondary 1st, but the Hawks hedged big on their strategy which isn't always a bad idea. Honestly, I'm not sure that outside of the teams he played for, other fanbases would consider Wes Walz a compliment, but based on what I know about approximately how old you are, you think of Walz about as highly as I do? Burned younger me enough times to learn to keep my hand away from that stove lol.