C Nick Suzuki - Guelph Storm, OHL (2017, 13th, VGK; traded to MTL)
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ProspectsSTC
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Seems like nobody is talking about a lot of the prospects in the draft this year. We are underrated the talent available.
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I'm no expert and obviously the top 15-20 of the first round this year is much weaker than 2016 but it feels like once you get past that, there's still plenty of talent to be had in this year's draft.
In particular, the forward crop from the OHL seems underrated and deep. Lodnia, Robertson, Suzuki, Thomas, Gadjovich, Formenton, Frost, Chmevelski, etc. None perfect blue chip prospects and all with a few question marks (Lodnia/Suzuki - slightly undersized, Robertson - not a great skater, Formenton/Chmevelski - production not caught up to talent, etc) but all seemingly possessing the right make-up to overcome any slight flaws. I just feel like if you stack these guys up into the end of the first round through third round of last year - they'd be every bit as good of picks as they will be in the same range this year. The exception being this year, one or to of them may sneak up into that Top 20 range.
In particular, the forward crop from the OHL seems underrated and deep. Lodnia, Robertson, Suzuki, Thomas, Gadjovich, Formenton, Frost, Chmevelski, etc. None perfect blue chip prospects and all with a few question marks (Lodnia/Suzuki - slightly undersized, Robertson - not a great skater, Formenton/Chmevelski - production not caught up to talent, etc) but all seemingly possessing the right make-up to overcome any slight flaws. I just feel like if you stack these guys up into the end of the first round through third round of last year - they'd be every bit as good of picks as they will be in the same range this year. The exception being this year, one or to of them may sneak up into that Top 20 range.
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At what point do people start getting serious about Suzuki? 87 points in 59 games, giving him 1.47 points per game.
Nico Hischier has 1.51 points per game and Nolan Patrick has 1.45, placing Suzuki only behind Hischier in points per game in this draft class.
Nico Hischier has 1.51 points per game and Nolan Patrick has 1.45, placing Suzuki only behind Hischier in points per game in this draft class.
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The fact that he is not the biggest guy in a draft with quite a bit of good forwards especially from the OHL. He is gonna go somewhere between 10 and 15.
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Dod93Cityt
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You can't just look at his height and discount him. The guy is built like a tank, and he plays that way, too. That said, I agree that he will idiotically fall to 10-15 range, where someone will get a big gift.
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Skating not being elite for a "smallish" guy is the main issue, but I think that can be improved on. I really like his all around game, seems to have really good poise with the puck on his stick as well.
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He has over 50 more points this year than he did last season in less games. That's what I call a break out! Hoping the Habs can move up for him or Pettersson
his little brother is supposed to be even better than him too, I've heard.
his little brother is supposed to be even better than him too, I've heard.
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I don't know how he isn't a lock for a top 10 pick.
- One of the youngest players in the draft. Plenty of time grow and/or gain some strength and improve skating.
- Safe player with a high floor due to how complete of a player he is.
- High upside due to elite hockey sense.
- One of the youngest players in the draft. Plenty of time grow and/or gain some strength and improve skating.
- Safe player with a high floor due to how complete of a player he is.
- High upside due to elite hockey sense.
His brother is better than him at a the same age. I don't think anyone expected Nick Suzuki to have the best adjusted ppg of draft eligibles in the 2017 class. His brother has a strong chance to go top 5 or even an outside shot at (1OA) in the OHL draft depending on some variables (certain players USNTDP intentions, and the wild card of Svechnikov, who you most likley only get for 1 year if he is declared a Michigan resident).
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Dammit Jim!
Or they could just draft him with the one they have. Entirely valid to take him anywhere from 4-15 IMO.
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At this point, I don't think he gets picked outside of the Top 10. I would not be surprised if a team has him ranked in their Top 5. His statistics now corroborate his skill set. His hockey IQ and overall game make him a safer selection than Owen Tippett, for example, while his offensive production is greater.
He leads all first-year draft-eligible OHL players in scoring by a wide margin with 42 goals, 89 points in 60 games. He has a points-per-game average of 1.48 this season, trailing only Nico Hischier in points per game.
He has 19 goals, 32 points in his last 15 games.
The next-highest scorer on that list is Owen Tippett with 43 goals, 73 points in 56 games.
He is also one of the youngest players in the entire draft with an August 10, 1999 birth date.
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His numbers adjusted for league quality and age are ahead of Hischier by a notable margin. Not that I would take him over Hischier or Patrick. It's generally accepted that OHL scoring is most transferable to the NHL level. Granted, if we drafted the CHL by the numbers Debrincat would have been the 2nd CHL player off the board last year (behind Matt Tkachuk).
Suzuki: 1.62
Hischier: 1.39 (1.43 with WJC adjustment)
Patrick: 1.46
Edit: For reference sake Vilardi is 1.47, Tippett is 1.39, Rasmussen is 1.13, Cody Glass is 1.41 and Yamamoto is 1.45. That should cover all the top CHL forwards.
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Morgs
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Ryan Suzuki's AAA team is just ridiculous, they're undefeated this season (He's their best player) and they're supposed to have the 1st and probably 2nd OA pick in the OHL draft this season.
Edit: Looks like they're not undefeated.
Nick is definitely underrated though, guy is way too good to have so little buzz.
Most people expect Hughes to be 1OA if he isn't USNTDP bound. There are other American's who could go high, depending on whether they are willing to come. Who do you think the 2nd guy from London is?
Morgs
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Someone in the know was telling me, but I can't remember his name. Based on stats in that league alone, my guess is Brett Budgel.
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100% agreed.
If his skating was better, he'd be a lock for the top-10; however, the lack of explosive speed and agility at his size will leave scouts hesitant to put him in the upper half of the draft.
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With last night's goal and assist, Suzuki is the first Owen Sound player to break 90 points as a 17 year old. Might also be the first to break 40 goals, too.
To put this in some perspective, Bobby Ryan had 87 points in 62 games as a 17 year old, and Joey Hishon had 81 points as a 17 year old.
As for the concerns about skating, something to keep in mind is that many players can improve skating from junior to the pros. John Tavares is a pretty significant example, but from an Owen Sound perspective, Bobby Ryan was a downright mediocre skater before turning pro.
Suzuki might be on the way to being the greatest Attack player ever. What that means for the draft is totally different, but I hope there are teams that see him as the Top 10 player that he deserves to be at this point.
To put this in some perspective, Bobby Ryan had 87 points in 62 games as a 17 year old, and Joey Hishon had 81 points as a 17 year old.
As for the concerns about skating, something to keep in mind is that many players can improve skating from junior to the pros. John Tavares is a pretty significant example, but from an Owen Sound perspective, Bobby Ryan was a downright mediocre skater before turning pro.
Suzuki might be on the way to being the greatest Attack player ever. What that means for the draft is totally different, but I hope there are teams that see him as the Top 10 player that he deserves to be at this point.
