C Nick Suzuki - Guelph Storm, OHL (2017, 13th, VGK; traded to MTL)

[Wats]

I'd be thrilled if he can be a 50-60 points RW/C. The only regularly producing top 6 forward Habs developed last few years is Gallagher. Regularly putting up ~60 points is harder than people seem to give credit for.

If he can be like Barzal, it'd be HUGE for the Habs franchise.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Would be surprised if he doesn't make the Canadiens line up out of camp next season.

 

[scoutman1]

If only Suzuki had the leadership to, oh I don't know, let's say bring his team back from the brink of elimination multiple times in a row when people had already written them off, and absolutely dominated in all of those elimination games.

If only

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team...guess you would have had to see giroux live to really see how he was on the ice and how he lead a way less talented gatineau club past a power house mooseheads team and power house rouyn team to win the league championship which i got a ring.for.and was total shock to everyone on the team but he had 50 something points for us in the playoffs with a hurt foot that he played the whole playoffs with...he commanded respect by others...was a better player than suzuki...

 

[ProspectsSTC]

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team...guess you would have had to see giroux live to really see how he was on the ice and how he lead a way less talented gatineau club past a power house mooseheads team and power house rouyn team to win the league championship which i got a ring.for.and was total shock to everyone on the team but he had 50 something points for us in the playoffs with a hurt foot that he played the whole playoffs with...he commanded respect by others...was a better player than suzuki...

I'm not questioning the level of.play of Giroux, if Suzuki becomes half of what he is I'll be thrilled, I'm saying Suzuki absolutely stepped up when it counted most and led his team, even if Ratcliffe has the C. Literally to the point where, after their series clinching win against Saginaw, Ratcliffe randomly tweeted out "Nick Suzuki is really good."

 

[GTA]

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team...guess you would have had to see giroux live to really see how he was on the ice and how he lead a way less talented gatineau club past a power house mooseheads team and power house rouyn team to win the league championship which i got a ring.for.and was total shock to everyone on the team but he had 50 something points for us in the playoffs with a hurt foot that he played the whole playoffs with...he commanded respect by others...was a better player than suzuki...

This whole post seems more like a humble brag than a critique of suzuki. Did you need to mention that you got a ring lol?

 

[Lebowski]

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team...guess you would have had to see giroux live to really see how he was on the ice and how he lead a way less talented gatineau club past a power house mooseheads team and power house rouyn team to win the league championship which i got a ring.for.and was total shock to everyone on the team but he had 50 something points for us in the playoffs with a hurt foot that he played the whole playoffs with...he commanded respect by others...was a better player than suzuki...

You seem to have a bit of a bias going on there.

 

[Noble]

Suzuki is nothing like giroux...i worked for gatineau as a scout when giroux was there snd we won the championship and his ability as a character player...just total dominance was better than suzuki....im not taking anything away from suzuki he is skilled, flashy, does not have the character and lesdership giroux had and is a notch bellow giroux on offense

This is the point where you admit to everyone in here that you have no idea know who Nick Suzuki even is.

Nick is an absolute class act and his leadership has been praised by both coaches and peers alike, on every junior team he's ever played on.

You can critique his talent all you want, but saying his character is lacking is honestly pretty laughable.

 

[montreal]

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team

When they were down, clearly Suzuki stepped up the most,

vs London from game 4 and on,

Suzuki - 4-5-6-11 +9
Ratcliffe - 4-3-3-6 +6


vs Saginaw from game 5 and on,

Suzuki - 3-2-4-6 +4
Ratcliffe - 3-1-3-4 +2

vs 67's from from 3 and on,

Suzuki - 4-2-8-10 +8
Ratcliffe - 4-5-3-8 +8


overall in those games,

Suzuki - 11-9-18-27 +21
Ratcliffe - 11-9-9-18 +16

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Had a great tournament, going to be a real good player, but not sure why he didn't 1 time that cross ice pass from Durzi with 30 secs to go tonight to tie the game.

 

[Michoulicious]

Had a great tournament, going to be a real good player, but not sure why he didn't 1 time that cross ice pass from Durzi with 30 secs to go tonight to tie the game.

Was it before or after he fed a superb pass to Entwistle only to see him missing an open net?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Was it before or after he fed a superb pass to Entwistle only to see him missing an open net?

After.

 

[Gaston Gingras]

Suzuki never brought them back the whole team played well...ratcliffe is actually the leader on this team...guess you would have had to see giroux live to really see how he was on the ice and how he lead a way less talented gatineau club past a power house mooseheads team and power house rouyn team to win the league championship which i got a ring.for.and was total shock to everyone on the team but he had 50 something points for us in the playoffs with a hurt foot that he played the whole playoffs with...he commanded respect by others...was a better player than suzuki...

what are you talking about? Have you seen the playoff ? Ratcliffe had good playoff I am agree but he's impact was nowhere near Suzuki! Not even close.

 

[Broad Street Buddies]

what are you talking about? Have you seen the playoff ? Ratcliffe had good playoff I am agree but he's impact was nowhere near Suzuki! Not even close.

Are you sure of that?

Last 4 games of the OHL finals (4 wins for Guelph);

Game #3 :
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : None

Game #4:
Ratcliffe : None
Suzuki : 1st star

Game #5:
Ratcliffe : 1st star
Suzuki : None

Game #6:
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : 3rd star

I don’t think that Ratcliffe is more skilled but I would say that he had a bigger impact on the team and that he definitely was the leader.

 

[Arhidia]

Are you sure of that?

Last 4 games of the OHL finals (4 wins for Guelph);

Game #3 :
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : None

Game #4:
Ratcliffe : None
Suzuki : 1st star

Game #5:
Ratcliffe : 1st star
Suzuki : None

Game #6:
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : 3rd star

I don’t think that Ratcliffe is more skilled but I would say that he had a bigger impact on the team and that he definitely was the leader.

if i guess
ratcliffe was drafted by flyers i would be correct?

 

[Broad Street Buddies]

if i guess
ratcliffe was drafted by flyers i would be correct?

I’m not even sure, we have so many top end prospects it’s hard to keep count.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Are you sure of that?

Last 4 games of the OHL finals (4 wins for Guelph);

Game #3 :
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : None

Game #4:
Ratcliffe : None
Suzuki : 1st star

Game #5:
Ratcliffe : 1st star
Suzuki : None

Game #6:
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : 3rd star

I don’t think that Ratcliffe is more skilled but I would say that he had a bigger impact on the team and that he definitely was the leader.

Suzuki: 42 pts and playoff mvp
Ratcliffe: 30 pts

 

[OB5]

Lol Flyers fans vs literally everyone else.

 

[scoutman1]

im not getting into aspects of tournaments...Suzuki does not play or have the same talent Giroux had...Suzuki is not gritty, gets knocked off puck easy, he has amazing hands, slick skating, tricky shooter and good passer....Giroux in junior was working hard in the trenches, leading by example, fast skater, great puck handler, excellent playmaker, a high IQ than Suzuki, played great defensively, a vocal leader on and off the ice. For a leader Ratcliffe is a better leader than Suzuki...Ratcliffe was the one getting his troops rallied, Suzuki was just skating around with his head down (im not a flyers fan) but I call it as I see it, Suzuki was hesitant on bringing the puck into traffic areas, ratcliffe did, Giroux would have done anything to win the game Suzuki did not have that same fire...so if this means putting down some thoughts of arm chair scouts who make their decision on stats and only say they watch everyone on here than so be it...

 

[scoutman1]

Suzuki: 42 pts and playoff mvp
Ratcliffe: 30 pts

again stats...guess what Jonathan Drouin won scoring title and MVP of CHL...guess what Nathan Mackinnon never did...who would you rather on your team? stats do not mean everything on here...im not saying Suzuki is not going to be a good player, he lacks some things that make a great player though...Ratcliffe IMO not going to be a point per game player in the NHL but I think with him you have a great 3rd line prospect with 40 to 50 pointish range but great leadership as well.

 

[NewEraGM]

again stats...guess what Jonathan Drouin won scoring title and MVP of CHL...guess what Nathan Mackinnon never did...who would you rather on your team? stats do not mean everything on here...im not saying Suzuki is not going to be a good player, he lacks some things that make a great player though...Ratcliffe IMO not going to be a point per game player in the NHL but I think with him you have a great 3rd line prospect with 40 to 50 pointish range but great leadership as well.

Star selection which is completely arbitrary is also not a good indication of future success if we are going down this road. Lol, who cares about star selection during a handful of games when both are either 1st or 2nd in most of those games anyways.

To draw a comparison between Drouin/Nate and Suzuki/ratcliffe because of their points is silly. We can find examples going the other way too. Lol that was like 5 years ago.

Both will be good players and will bring different elements to their respective teams. No need to get your panties in a knot

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

gets knocked off puck easy,

and that's how I know you didn't watch him the whole tournament.

 

[PKWeber]

again stats...guess what Jonathan Drouin won scoring title and MVP of CHL...guess what Nathan Mackinnon never did...who would you rather on your team? stats do not mean everything on here...im not saying Suzuki is not going to be a good player, he lacks some things that make a great player though...Ratcliffe IMO not going to be a point per game player in the NHL but I think with him you have a great 3rd line prospect with 40 to 50 pointish range but great leadership as well.

Ratcliffe is McCarron 2.0, I don’t see him becoming more than a 4th liner in the NHL.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Suzuki was the straw that stirred the drink. Ratcliffe played very well and benefited from Suzuki more than the other way around.

Noah Dobson of the Huskies is a stud though. He was the best player in that game IMO.

 

[Rico Suave]

What are you guys arguing about

Suzuki >>> Ratcliffe its not even close

 

[covfefe]

Are you sure of that?

Last 4 games of the OHL finals (4 wins for Guelph);

Game #3 :
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : None

Game #4:
Ratcliffe : None
Suzuki : 1st star

Game #5:
Ratcliffe : 1st star
Suzuki : None

Game #6:
Ratcliffe : 2nd star
Suzuki : 3rd star

I don’t think that Ratcliffe is more skilled but I would say that he had a bigger impact on the team and that he definitely was the leader.

It’s amazing that you’d take the time to check all those box scores for stars, but you (amongst others) can’t/won’t take the time to actually watch the f***in series.