C Matthew Savoie - Moose Jaw Warriors, WHL (2022, 9th, BUF, traded to EDM) - PART 2

[bringbacktheskate604]

No, that's who he is.

He's not NHL ready, he's not a feisty player. It's a big jump to go from the WHL to the pros, especially for a small player.

I think anyone who expected him to have an impactful camp and be ready to contribute at the NHL got stuck in his pre-draft hype.

Never really got this trade from an oilers perspective.
Sure he's got a higher ceiling than McLeod but oilers are in a win now mode and the oilers look slow so far this season throughout the lineup and their bottom six is shit.

I think it's fair to say he's a boom/bust type prospect and the way I see it is when a team is willing to give up such a high draft pick two years after being drafted for a 3C, makes me think the sabres brass are worried his game might not translate at the pro level?

I'm sure many oiler fans will disagree but they aren't a better team because of this trade and are in fact worse and for a team that's win now, cup or bust, I just dont get this trade.

 

[Faceboner]

No, that's who he is.

He's not NHL ready, he's not a feisty player. It's a big jump to go from the WHL to the pros, especially for a small player.

I think anyone who expected him to have an impactful camp and be ready to contribute at the NHL got stuck in his pre-draft hype.

It's surprising because he had a great camp last year with us and looked like he earned a spot before the injury

 

[Pip]

Never really got this trade from an oilers perspective.
Sure he's got a higher ceiling than McLeod but oilers are in a win now mode and the oilers look slow so far this season throughout the lineup and their bottom six is shit.

I think it's fair to say he's a boom/bust type prospect and the way I see it is when a team is willing to give up such a high draft pick two years after being drafted for a 3C, makes me think the sabres brass are worried his game might not translate at the pro level?

I'm sure many oiler fans will disagree but they aren't a better team because of this trade and are in fact worse and for a team that's win now, cup or bust, I just dont get this trade.

It made sense in the short term view as McLeod couldn’t fill the 3C role so the team had to go out and trade for Henrique. Once Henrique re-signed McLeod was likely slated to play on the fourth line.

The hope is that Savoie can replace someone like Jeff Skinner in a year or two for cheap.

 

[wetcoast]

Never really got this trade from an oilers perspective.
Sure he's got a higher ceiling than McLeod but oilers are in a win now mode and the oilers look slow so far this season throughout the lineup and their bottom six is shit.

I think it's fair to say he's a boom/bust type prospect and the way I see it is when a team is willing to give up such a high draft pick two years after being drafted for a 3C, makes me think the sabres brass are worried his game might not translate at the pro level?

I'm sure many oiler fans will disagree but they aren't a better team because of this trade and are in fact worse and for a team that's win now, cup or bust, I just dont get this trade.

Two words, Salary Cap

Plus they have a full season of Henrique as their #3 center and Savoie for the future.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I think anyone who expected him to have an impactful camp and be ready to contribute at the NHL got stuck in his pre-draft hype.

I've seen far more post-trade hype than pre-draft hype.

Oilers fans really bent over backwards after the trade to convince themselves they just landed a blue chip prospect.

 

[Beerz]

It's surprising because he had a great camp last year with us and looked like he earned a spot before the injury

No. Savoie had a good rookie tournament. He didn't participate in training camp with NHL club at all.. he was injured. He was never making team.

 

[FromChaos22]

No. Savoie had a good rookie tournament. He didn't participate in training camp with NHL club at all.. he was injured. He was never making team.

True, but I think he was ahead of Benson for that spot before camp began.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I've seen far more post-trade hype than pre-draft hype.

Oilers fans really bent over backwards after the trade to convince themselves they just landed a blue chip prospect.

You mean the prospect you literally called Buffalo's most valuable trade chip back in May?

Here's how I'd rank our asset value...where does 11OA fit in? I have a feeling the opinions vary widely among the fans.

Most valuable: Savoie
Kulich
11OA
Rosen
Ostlund
R. Johnson
Wahlburg
Strbak
Least valuable: a bunch of other prospects no one needs.

It sure sounds like someone has been up to something post-trade, and it's not hyping Savoie.

 

[Dubi Doo]

True, but I think he was ahead of Benson for that spot before camp began.

Ehhhh....there was a lot of debate on this topic after the draft. It was close, but Benson proved to be the far more polished player. Savoie doesn't sniff his jock strap as a player...yet.

 

[Dubi Doo]

You mean the prospect you literally called Buffalo's most valuable trade chip back in May?



It sure sounds like someone has been up to something post-trade, and it's not hyping Savoie.

Savoie is a really good prospect with question marks. He was valued similarly to Kulich, 2025 1st round pick, and Helenius among Sabres fans. Benson, a similarly aged player on the Sabre, was viewed as the cream of the crop of our U20 players, which is what made Savoie expendable.

Regardless, his potential is pretty damn high, and getting sent down doesn't change that, but it does show that his size may be an issue. He's also had injury concerns in the past. Still, value wise, I think this was a good deal for EDM.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

You mean the prospect you literally called Buffalo's most valuable trade chip back in May?



It sure sounds like someone has been up to something post-trade, and it's not hyping Savoie.

Yeah, he was, and we traded him like I was suggesting in my posts back then. Did I say any of them were blue chip prospects? Did I say any of them were even sure-fire NHL players?

Not sure what your point is, but what kind of loser digs into someone’s history instead of simply responding to the point they made?

 

[VeteranPresence]

Yeah, he was, and we traded him like I was suggesting in my posts back then. Did I say any of them were blue chip prospects? Did I say any of them were even sure-fire NHL players?

I guess this explains why/how Buffalo has been as bad as they have been for so long- their "most valuable assets" are not top prospects or even NHL players.

Not sure what your point is, but what kind of loser digs into someone’s history instead of simply responding to the point they made?

You mean the point I responded to by showcasing your hypocrisy, lol?

 

[Beerz]

I guess this explains why/how Buffalo has been as bad as they have been for so long- their "most valuable assets" are not top prospects or even NHL players.



You mean the point I responded to by showcasing your hypocrisy, lol?

Blue chip prospect is subjective.. everyone is going to look at what a blue chip is differently. I happen to agree with him... we haven't had a blue chip forward prospect since Eichel and Power was last blue chip d prospect we had.

 

[Beerz]

True, but I think he was ahead of Benson for that spot before camp began.

Maybe.. It took Benson a little time to get up to speed with things... I'd argue Benson didn't earn his spot until his 9 game tryout. So if Savoie did "beat out" Benson all it would of done was prevent Benson from getting his 9 game tryout and they both would of been sent back to Juniors... Savoie would of got the 9 game tryout and then sent back down because he wasn't NHL ready last year.

 

[Three On Zero]

He looks like Yamamoto with less tenacity, he can likely make it in a couple years due to having some tools in his toolbox but he doesn’t seem to play a game that translates well to the NHL level