C Marco Kasper (2022, 8th, DET)

[GoBoltz56]

He's really keeping Klagenfurter afloat this year.

 

[Preposterone]

Okay it's a 0.69.2 PPG average give or take.

You should have just included his CHL stats as well. Then he’d be at 16pts in 19 games

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[Lavar Ball]

Loving his creativity spark recently, not often you get a player with that mixed with the guts and drive we all know he possesses. Wings got a good one for sure

 

[Ricelund]

Great thread on Kasper:

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Declined to play in the world juniors for Austria?

 

[Fan.At]

Kirk Furey nominiert U20 WM-Kader

decision was made by kasper together with team austria officials. they prefer to have him rested on the men's team rather than have him play on the wjc team.

 

[SoundAndFury]

He Seider'ed the WJC, as kids call it these days.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Scored the game winning goal and had a nice assist today.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Currently having as good of a D+1 year as Raymond but doing it as a center and being phenomenal defensively. 1+2 today +2 while playing 22 mins.

Currently at 10+17=27 in 44 games.

Can someone please update the topic title. He’s played for Rögle since 2020.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[Pavels Dog]

Feels like he's trending better than most guys from this draft so far. Promising stuff.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

6 Goals+12 Assists for 18 points in 34 games with Rogle. Already 7 points better in his D+1 season than a year ago. Pretty much playing in all situations.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Feels like he's trending better than most guys from this draft so far. Promising stuff.

In a too-early redraft he’s top 3 or 4 in my opinion.

Jiricek
Mintyukov
Gauthier
Kasper

I think Jiricek would be #1 then it’s a toss up for the others at this point.

 

[Lavar Ball]

In a too-early redraft he’s top 3 or 4 in my opinion.

Jiricek
Mintyukov
Gauthier
Kasper

I think Jiricek would be #1 then it’s a toss up for the others at this point.

I'd definitely still take Cooley over him.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

In a too-early redraft he’s top 3 or 4 in my opinion.

Jiricek
Mintyukov
Gauthier
Kasper

I think Jiricek would be #1 then it’s a toss up for the others at this point.

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Slafkovsky
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Kasper
7. Mintyukov
8. Gauthier
9. Kulich
10. Korchinski

That’s how I would draft today I think. Casey, Mateychuk, and Savoie are right there for me as well but Kasper has looked awesome this year.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Slafkovsky
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Kasper
7. Mintyukov
8. Gauthier
9. Kulich
10. Korchinski

That’s how I would draft today I think. Casey, Mateychuk, and Savoie are right there for me as well but Kasper has looked awesome this year.

I haven’t been impressed by Slaf, Nemec or Wright when I’ve seen them this year. Still top 10 but none in the top 5. And I’m still not sold on Cooley or Korchinski. Cooley seems like the kind of player that will be a bad team scorer. Korchinski is like a poor man’s Chabot.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I haven’t been impressed by Slaf, Nemec or Wright when I’ve seen them this year. Still top 10 but none in the top 5. And I’m still not sold on Cooley or Korchinski. Cooley seems like the kind of player that will be a bad team scorer. Korchinski is like a poor man’s Chabot.

I mean Slaf has 4 goals in 39 NHL games and Kasper has 6 goals in 34 SHL games so I'm not sure what would warrant Kasper all of a sudden jumping over him when the draft was like half a year ago.

All Cooley has really done is be a good scorer on top teams so I also don't get where you think he is a bad team scorer. Has he ever been on a bad team? Or do you just think Arizona will suck forever but he will score well on those bad teams?

I agree Wright has been pretty meh but Nemec was a beast at the WJC and seems to be having a solid AHL season as an 18 yr old defenseman.

I think Kasper has looked good though. Just too early to say how far he would go in a re-draft, especially when all of these guys are playing in different levels and leagues around the world.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I mean Slaf has 4 goals in 39 NHL games and Kasper has 6 goals in 34 SHL games so I'm not sure what would warrant Kasper all of a sudden jumping over him when the draft was like half a year ago.

Kasper wouldn't climb much, if at all, in a re-draft. Mostly I'm just happy he's inching closer to the top tier of the draft. No one taken after him is making me second guess the pick, and I was pretty torn between Kasper, Lekkerimäki, Savoie, Nazar etc.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I mean Slaf has 4 goals in 39 NHL games and Kasper has 6 goals in 34 SHL games so I'm not sure what would warrant Kasper all of a sudden jumping over him when the draft was like half a year ago.

All Cooley has really done is be a good scorer on top teams so I also don't get where you think he is a bad team scorer. Has he ever been on a bad team? Or do you just think Arizona will suck forever but he will score well on those bad teams?

I agree Wright has been pretty meh but Nemec was a beast at the WJC and seems to be having a solid AHL season as an 18 yr old defenseman.

I think Kasper has looked good though. Just too early to say how far he would go in a re-draft, especially when all of these guys are playing in different levels and leagues around the world.

Different games for Slaf and Kasper. Kasper has been his team’s best all around player most nights, including his champions league play where he had 9 points in 10 games in a best on best tourney. He’s always tilting the ice when out there. I vaguely remember seeing a stat that Kasper and his winger Oskar Staal-Lyrenas had the highest xGF in the SHL.

If I’m looking at a comparison in the league right now, I’d say Kasper and Matty Beniers are very comparable in how they play and skate. Beniers has the better shot but Kasper is more physical. Both are very solid fundamentally and seem to always make the right play.

As far as Cooley, it’s more the Arizona will suck forever despite Cooley scoring. That team will be in limbo forever.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

I mean Slaf has 4 goals in 39 NHL games and Kasper has 6 goals in 34 SHL games so I'm not sure what would warrant Kasper all of a sudden jumping over him when the draft was like half a year ago.

All Cooley has really done is be a good scorer on top teams so I also don't get where you think he is a bad team scorer. Has he ever been on a bad team? Or do you just think Arizona will suck forever but he will score well on those bad teams?

I agree Wright has been pretty meh but Nemec was a beast at the WJC and seems to be having a solid AHL season as an 18 yr old defenseman.

I think Kasper has looked good though. Just too early to say how far he would go in a re-draft, especially when all of these guys are playing in different levels and leagues around the world.

Pretty silly to base a comparison on goals scored between a goal scorer and a playmaker. Especially when that goal scorer is weak defensively and the playmaker (who also is scoring goals) is elite defensively

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Pretty silly to base a comparison on goals scored between a goal scorer and a playmaker. Especially when that goal scorer is weak defensively and the playmaker (who also is scoring goals) is elite defensively

It's also silly to do a re-draft 6 months after the original draft happened in which they are as much changes as people were suggesting. Obviously they are different players, but it's not like all that much has happened that would warrant Slafkovsky falling out of the top-5 while a guy like Kasper moves up. My point was they are in completely different situations in terms of league, opportunity, and team strength and the stats aren't significantly different enough to effect a re-draft that much.

 

[Realgud]

I mean Slaf has 4 goals in 39 NHL games and Kasper has 6 goals in 34 SHL games

6 goals in 34 SHL games is more impressive, imo. The NHL is more difficult but it is also a much higher scoring league.

 

[Hen Kolland]

It's also silly to do a re-draft 6 months after the original draft happened in which they are as much changes as people were suggesting. Obviously they are different players, but it's not like all that much has happened that would warrant Slafkovsky falling out of the top-5 while a guy like Kasper moves up. My point was they are in completely different situations in terms of league, opportunity, and team strength and the stats aren't significantly different enough to effect a re-draft that much.

Doing a re-draft is probably a fool's errand, you are certainly right, but this can be viewed as more like tracking stocks. Montreal bought in on Slafkovsky as a long term investment and just because he hasn't produced capital appreciation doesn't mean that they are looking to sell. That doesn't mean that someone like Kasper hasn't raised his perceived value to a lot of people who were otherwise skeptical.

The things people said about Kasper were well rounded, high effort, physical, responsible, but also simplistic, limited upside, high floor. I certainly haven't watched as much Rogle as others who have followed Kasper closely this year, but in the bits and pieces I have been able to catch, there's evidence to suggest that the question marks aren't nearly as significant as they were at the time of the draft. As a result, Kasper seems to be rising where Slafkovsky appears to be treading water.

Nobody should be flipping spots, but the competition has definitely gotten a little tighter. This isn't exclusive to just two players, it's a big pool of prospects.