C Marco Kasper (2022, 8th, DET)

[Hazy Little Thing]

It's also silly to do a re-draft 9 months after the original draft happened

Why? Plenty of data points have changed.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Why? Plenty of data points have changed.

Because the majority of people haven't even played 40 hockey games. They are in different leagues around the world, playing against different levels of competition and getting different types of opportunity in terms of ice time and line mates. Some of them them have battled injuries so far in the year. I think over 90% of hockey fans agree it takes years to conduct a reasonable re-draft...and doing one halfway through their first season post-draft does not draw that many conclusions.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I think over 90% of hockey fans agree it takes years to conduct a reasonable re-draft..

Sir, this is a hfboards.

 

[majormajor]

Because the majority of people haven't even played 40 hockey games. They are in different leagues around the world, playing against different levels of competition and getting different types of opportunity in terms of ice time and line mates. Some of them them have battled injuries so far in the year. I think over 90% of hockey fans agree it takes years to conduct a reasonable re-draft...and doing one halfway through their first season post-draft does not draw that many conclusions.

This was all true last summer too, they still held a draft.

A re-draft isn't meant to be conclusive, the prospects will obviously keep surprising us, but at any point in time you can take a snapshot of where you think they rank. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[majormajor]

In a too-early redraft he’s top 3 or 4 in my opinion.

Jiricek
Mintyukov
Gauthier
Kasper

I think Jiricek would be #1 then it’s a toss up for the others at this point.

I haven't seen enough Kasper to bump him up yet. And the stats aren't much yet. My top 3 is the same as yours though. I might have Wright 4th, as frustrating as he can be.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

12+17=29 in 51 games with Rogle this season.

 

[newfy]

On his way to North America, not sure if he'll finish the year in Grand Rapids or Detroit. Very strong u19 season for him in the SHL production wise, but a lo of what he brings is beyond production

 

[saska sault]

The future is just starting to show up in Detroit. Some exciting prospects just starting out with Kasper, Wallinder and Mazur all getting their first look. If Kasper can contribute in the next couple years I am pretty confident Yzerman can work his way into another top 6 center via trade or free agency. Larkin, Copp, Kasper and an addition is a great foundation. Back end has depth and potentially two #1 defensemen. Husso is a great option going forward, next year should be a playoff push.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Recalled from the SHL to the Big club

 

[TCNorthstars]

Recalled from the SHL to the Big club

Does he have to get called to Detroit before he can be sent to Grand Rapids?

 

[Christien]

He joined the Red Wings on their flight to Winnipeg last night, so we could possibly see him play tonight

 

[GoBoltz56]

Wow. Honestly figured he'd go to Grand Rapids.

 

[newfy]

Mazur and Kasper are going to make Detroit a lot more annoying to play against in the near future

 

[JackSlater]

Very curious to see what he's able to do.

 

[newfy]

NHL debut tonight against the leafs, centering Copp and Raymond so he might see some legit ice time too....

 

[whata beauty]

Played 14:54, no points, E +/-, centered the 2nd line for a majority of the time in a win in Toronto. Did not look out of place, especially for an 18 year old that just came over to the states from Europe within the last week

 

[person5000]

Lalonde was happy with his play

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Played 14:54, no points, E +/-, centered the 2nd line for a majority of the time in a win in Toronto. Did not look out of place, especially for an 18 year old that just came over to the states from Europe within the last week

That's pretty good news for the Wings. I wasn't as high on him as the wings (he was 15 on my list), but felt like he had a really high floor.

Looks like the Wings might have made another great top 10 pick. It's so important for rebuilding orgs not to blow these types of picks - they've had 6 top 9 picks in a row (with the last 5 all out of Europe), and looks like the only missed on 1 of them (Zadina).

Out of those 6 picks, looks like they'll get:
- Top 6C (Kasper) who may have 1C potential
- Top 6W (Raymond) who probably becomes a legit top line winger.
- 2 top 4D (including a #1D (Seider) and Edvinsson, who could be a #1 as well)
- Top 6 PWF (Rasmussen), who is still improving. He's actually pretty underrated. He's 3rd on the wings in ES points despite missing like 20 games, ahead of guys like Perron, Raymond, and Kubalik. He's 2nd among Wings regulars in 5v5 p/60 (1.87) behind only Larkin (1.92)...

That's a tremendous haul, with pretty much every type of player needed to make a formidable 5 man unit - a playmaking winger, a PWF winger, a two way center, a #1 all situations puck moving dman, and a two way 6'6 dman. Plus they got Cossa coming in net.

Detroit has done a great job of building through the draft. And since Yzerman has taken over, they've done a great job mixing bolder picks like Seider and Kasper with "BPA" picks in Raymond and Edvinsson. Seems they know when to go off the board. And they'll probably get another top 8-12 pick this year and get another great piece.

Future looks bright in HockeyTown.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Confirmed to stay in the lineup as well

 

[Our Lady Peace]

I reckon Detroit is gonna be real close with his development this summer too. Their SHL prospects in particular have transitioned smoothly to NA from what we've seen so far.

Seider (unique AHL to SHL path)
Raymond
Edvinsson
Berggren
Soderblom
and you can count Lindstrom as well

With hope for;

Wallinder
Al. Johansson

 

[CraigBillington]

This was all true last summer too, they still held a draft.

A re-draft isn't meant to be conclusive, the prospects will obviously keep surprising us, but at any point in time you can take a snapshot of where you think they rank. Nothing wrong with it.

Yep. It's fun for some to discuss. It's harmless

 

[newfy]

Youngest red wing to debut at age 18 since Marty Lapointe in 1991

 

[Eye of Ra]

He also had 3 hits

 

[Mrfenn92]

Liked him a lot in the draft process

 

[deca guard]

my copy/paste isnt working right now but i just posted a new/excellent icehockeygif 30 minute vid on marco at my 'redwinghockey' reddit page