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C/LW Pavel Zacha - Sarnia Sting, OHL (2015, 6th, NJD)

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Lateralous said:
2 or 3? I saw they originally credited his with a 2nd assist on the 1st Konecky goal but then removed it on the OHL website
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Yeah it looks like they took away credit for his secondary assist (1st of the night), so it was just 2 assists for tonight for Zacha. Either way, I'm looking forward to his duo with Konecny...lots of firepower right there
 
SeversonFan said:
I actually took it as you sarcastically trashing Zacha by that smilie, instead of as a genuine comment about him getting more points.:laugh:
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Re-reading what I wrote I can see how it comes across that way. My apologies.

How about we just agree that they both help each other dominate, go on to be great players, and help beat up the Rangers and Pens at every opportunity.

Fair?

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The Mentalist said:
I noticed his stats have perked up too, especially after the Konecny trade.
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Ehh. Konecny only has 6 in 4 with Sarnia, so it's not like he is absolutely crushing it. I do think Konecny is helping Zacha to a degree but he was killing it before TK. In the 2 games before the trade, he had 8 pts in 2 games

I mean, it was laughable how terrible Sarnia's offense was pre TK and how Zacha was doing it all on his own. Zacha had 30 pts in 23 games=1.3 PPG. Next closest were Nikita Korostelev and Jordan Kyrou, both with 20 in 28=.71 PPG. It was a joke
 
I look at Zacha not unlike Crouse last year. Both were in my top 10 Final Rankings. I took into account they were not on strong offensive teams, but now they have more to work with. Both will show more offence. Which is good to see.
 
Konecny's had 6 points (3G 3A) in the 4 games he's played with the Sting, and Zacha has had 7 (2G 5A) in the same amount of time, so the two are certainly playing well together.

Zacha's been playing at a very high level this year and hasn't had the numbers to show for it, but Konecny is a fantastic line-mate for him and I think the two are going to do quite some damage together as the season progresses
 
The trades Sarnia made have been huge. Before that, Zacha was the only real high-end offensive threat on the team, which makes it far easier to identify and cover him. Now that they've added some other good players to the mix, it's opened up space for Zacha as well as given him some better line mates.

Pretty much anyone who examined Sarnia's roster this season or last could pick out that this was the issue. Good to see they have tried to address it.
 
Adding Konecny allows Zacha to not have everyone just honed into him. Just think what advantages player in London get when you don't get a 2nd teammate to help you, but 5 other guys.
 
The curious case of Pavel Zacha

As a neutral fan who could care less about the devils, I really don't like this kids development. I watch him all the time in Sarnia and around the OHL, and I feel like he's one of those tools but no toolbox kind of guys (think Yakupov). Anyone else feel the same way?

*Please no bashing, this is not a thread that is attempting to attack the prospect, just trying to discuss among others how they feel about him*
 
bo27 said:
As a neutral fan who could care less about the devils, I really don't like this kids development. I watch him all the time in Sarnia and around the OHL, and I feel like he's one of those tools but no toolbox kind of guys (think Yakupov). Anyone else feel the same way?

*Please no bashing, this is not a thread that is attempting to attack the prospect, just trying to discuss among others how they feel about him*
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He's solid all around, probably drafted a bit too high but he'll be a solid player. I think he's fairly smart and aware, but possibly lacks the scoring instincts of most high picks. So I wouldn't say he's a no tool box guy, he is a very smart defensive player and will make it on that if he doesn't find his scoring touch.
 
bo27 said:
As a neutral fan who could care less about the devils, I really don't like this kids development. I watch him all the time in Sarnia and around the OHL, and I feel like he's one of those tools but no toolbox kind of guys (think Yakupov). Anyone else feel the same way?

*Please no bashing, this is not a thread that is attempting to attack the prospect, just trying to discuss among others how they feel about him*
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I've voiced that opinion since day 1
 
He's built for the NHL, not junior.

The players that translate the best to the NHL level are the physical specimens with all the tools. Zacha is 6'3, 210lbs, skates extremely well, shoots the puck better than most NHLers, and has a surprising amount of talent for such a big man. His hockey sense may not be as good as other highly drafted players, but he'll make up for that with his tremendous skills package.

Has the potential to produce 60 points and can be molded into a two-way beast - the kind of player that teams hate to play against.
 
Hale The Villain said:
He's built for the NHL, not junior.

The players that translate the best to the NHL level are the physical specimens with all the tools. Zacha is 6'3, 210lbs, skates extremely well, shoots the puck better than most NHLers, and has a surprising amount of talent for such a big man. His hockey sense may not be as good as other highly drafted players, but he'll make up for that with his tremendous skills package.

Has the potential to produce 60 points and can be molded into a two-way beast - the kind of player that teams hate to play against.
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While not all elite jr scorers turn into good scorers at the NHL level, its quite rare for a non elite Jr scorer to turn into a high end producers. Even high-end defensive 2nd line centrs put up big jr numbers like Couturier. Zacha production is more inline with Jordan Staal who in 9 years in the league still hasn't broken the 55 point mark.
 
Hale The Villain said:
He's built for the NHL, not junior.

The players that translate the best to the NHL level are the physical specimens with all the tools. Zacha is 6'3, 210lbs, skates extremely well, shoots the puck better than most NHLers, and has a surprising amount of talent for such a big man. His hockey sense may not be as good as other highly drafted players, but he'll make up for that with his tremendous skills package.

Has the potential to produce 60 points and can be molded into a two-way beast - the kind of player that teams hate to play against.
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It doesn't really work like that. Lack of hockey sense typically prevents players from capitalizing on their skill set. Elite skill set doesn't compensate for a lack of hockey sense.
 
CorgisPer60 said:
How the flying **** is someone built for the NHL and not junior? Like, that phrase makes no sense at all.
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Most big-time junior scorers produce tons of points because of their individual skills and an understanding of the league they're in. They are good to exploit the weaknesses of junior defense schemes. This doesn't mean they will become scoring machines in the NHL. Look at Corey Locke's stats.

I think the poster means Zacha is not the kind of guy that could take over a junior game and score 2 pts per night. But he is a guy when placed with talented and experienced players in the NHL, will be able to bring a lot to the table (physical skills, two-way skills, speed) so that he will be a great NHLer. He will make his team better, but probably wont be a superstar.

There is a couple of players like that. For exemple, a guy like McIlrath was drafted very high by NYR, despite him never dominating juniors. He is now becoming a solid NHLer. A guy like Frederik Gauthier, 1st round by TOR, has never put up 1.00 PPG in the QMJHL, yet projects as a solid 3rd line C like Paul Gaustad, a very good NHLer.
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
It doesn't really work like that. Lack of hockey sense typically prevents players from capitalizing on their skill set. Elite skill set doesn't compensate for a lack of hockey sense.
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Pretty much this. Also not sure how he excepts a guy with subpar hockey sense to become a 2-way beast. Hockey sense is one of the more important things that goes into being a good 2-way player.
 
NA Scouting said:
Most big-time junior scorers produce tons of points because of their individual skills and an understanding of the league they're in. They are good to exploit the weaknesses of junior defense schemes. This doesn't mean they will become scoring machines in the NHL. Look at Corey Locke's stats.

I think the poster means Zacha is not the kind of guy that could take over a junior game and score 2 pts per night. But he is a guy when placed with talented and experienced players in the NHL, will be able to bring a lot to the table (physical skills, two-way skills, speed) so that he will be a great NHLer. He will make his team better, but probably wont be a superstar.

There is a couple of players like that. For exemple, a guy like McIlrath was drafted very high by NYR, despite him never dominating juniors. A guy like Fred Gauthier, 1st round by TOR, has never put up 1.00 PPG in the QMJHL, yet projects as a solid 3rd line C like Paul Gaustad, a very good NHLer.
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So basically a 3rd line grinder. Great use of a top 10 pick. *thumbs up*
 
CorgisPer60 said:
How the flying **** is someone built for the NHL and not junior? Like, that phrase makes no sense at all.
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Yeah, I don't really get that either. When you have a significant and pronounced size advantage over your opponents and you're not running with it, that's a red flag.
 
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