C/LW Cole Perfetti - Saginaw Spirit, OHL (2020, 10th, WPG)

[DJB]

JVR?

JVR has terrible hockey IQ and IQ is Perfettis best asset.

Other than being poor skaters I don't see the comparable

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

JVR has terrible hockey IQ and IQ is Perfettis best asset.

Other than being poor skaters I don't see the comparable

lol JVR does not have terrible hockey IQ. Get outta here with that. JVR's problem is his lack of physicality and his unwillingness to engage at times. If Perfetti turns out to be JVR, that's a win.

 

[NA Hockey]

JVR is a one dimensional goal scorer. Perfetti is a dual threat, elite playmaker.

JVR is a PP big body net front player with good hockey IQ. Perfetti is a high skill PP QB with elite IQ.

A much better comparable in my opinion is B Point as a junior player. Highly prolific, high IQ player who was knocked for size and skating.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

JVR is a one dimensional goal scorer. Perfetti is a dual threat, elite playmaker.

JVR is a PP big body net front player with good hockey IQ. Perfetti is a high skill PP QB with elite IQ.

A much better comparable in my opinion is B Point as a junior player. Highly prolific, high IQ player who was knocked for size and skating.

that’s rossi

 

[bsu]

I don't see JVR comparsion at all.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Cole Perfetti isn't anywhere close to JVR, Both are totally different players.

 

[Daneurism]

Two pages on Cole Perfetti being comparable to JVR LOL holy shit

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

I think some of you have never actually seen JVR play

 

[CambieKev]

Great work by Mark Scheig here.

Perfetti's perspective on forechecking only highlights the concerns about his ability to drive offense in the NHL. I've said it a bunch: there is very little open ice in the NHL, especially in the neutral zone. At even strength, the opponent applies heavy pressure to the puck carrier.

Players who succeed in transition create chances with their speed and one-on-one ability. That isn't Perfetti's skill set.

In the playoffs, even Quinn Hughes can have all of his time and space taken away.

Most NHL shifts require board work and quick perimeter puck movement to maintain pressure and possession. He can't play at the pace he currently plays if he wants to be effective. I appreciate his desire to initiate a shift in the current mentality of NHL coaching, but he'll be expected to hustle to retrieve the puck. The NHL remains a dump-and-chase league due to the effectiveness of defensive coaching strategies to mitigate rush chances. Offense is generally created through sustained o-zone pressure.

Rush-centric systems started to fade once the Dead Puck Era began. I think rush-reliant prospects are a greater risk overall than smart forecheckers in terms of their floor.

Jesse Puljujarvi is a perfect case study. I think the consensus is that he doesn't spend a lot of time on the boards and succeeds by attacking in transition at lower levels. Even with his frame, reach and skating ability, he struggled to generate anything more than outside shots off the rush with the Oilers in his last NHL stint.

Players generally need puck retrieval skills to succeed in the NHL.

 

[CutOnDime97]

James van Riemsdyk? As a comp for Cole Perfetti?

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your comment, but the only similarity I can see between Perfetti and JVR is the fact that neither were fast on draft day.

JVR is 6'3, Perfetti is 5'10. JVR is and will probably always be a much stronger player, Perfetti has much better vision. Not a lot of similarities in their game from my eyes.

Reemer has stone hands as well. Perfetti is all skill it seems like.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Two pages on Cole Perfetti being comparable to JVR LOL holy shit

The comparable I’ve seen trotted out are awful.

I’ve said this about Perfetti on the wings forum; if he sticks at center then he’s Mike Ribeiro or Marc Savard. A Savvy playmaker and PP menace but not strong defensively. If he moved to wing I can see him being Jordan Eberle-like.

I’d still rather have Rossi at 4th overall.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Great work by Mark Scheig here.

Perfetti's perspective on forechecking only highlights the concerns about his ability to drive offense in the NHL. I've said it a bunch: there is very little open ice in the NHL, especially in the neutral zone. At even strength, the opponent applies heavy pressure to the puck carrier.

Players who succeed in transition create chances with their speed and one-on-one ability. That isn't Perfetti's skill set.

In the playoffs, even Quinn Hughes can have all of his time and space taken away.

Most NHL shifts require board work and quick perimeter puck movement to maintain pressure and possession. He can't play at the pace he currently plays if he wants to be effective. I appreciate his desire to initiate a shift in the current mentality of NHL coaching, but he'll be expected to hustle to retrieve the puck. The NHL remains a dump-and-chase league due to the effectiveness of defensive coaching strategies to mitigate rush chances. Offense is generally created through sustained o-zone pressure.

Rush-centric systems started to fade once the Dead Puck Era began. I think rush-reliant prospects are a greater risk overall than smart forecheckers in terms of their floor.

Jesse Puljujarvi is a perfect case study. I think the consensus is that he doesn't spend a lot of time on the boards and succeeds by attacking in transition at lower levels. Even with his frame, reach and skating ability, he struggled to generate anything more than outside shots off the rush with the Oilers in his last NHL stint.

Players generally need puck retrieval skills to succeed in the NHL.

This is precisely why I think Perfetti has the highest chance to bust out of anyone in the top 10. Top 5 smarts in the draft, no doubt, but the skating looks like it doesn’t belong in the first round and I think his transition is going to be rough. He doesn’t have the speed to evade or the size or strength to push through NHL defenses. For a guy ranked in the top 10 that really gives me pause.

 

[57special]

Yet some well thought of scouts have him ranked as high as #4. Not trying to argue...I have my doubts about him, too. I think he will need at least two years before he gets NHL time, if not more. IQ is great, and hands are great, but at some point you need to factor is speed, size, and/or strength.

 

[majormajor]

Great work by Mark Scheig here.

Perfetti's perspective on forechecking only highlights the concerns about his ability to drive offense in the NHL. I've said it a bunch: there is very little open ice in the NHL, especially in the neutral zone. At even strength, the opponent applies heavy pressure to the puck carrier.

Players who succeed in transition create chances with their speed and one-on-one ability. That isn't Perfetti's skill set.

In the playoffs, even Quinn Hughes can have all of his time and space taken away.

Most NHL shifts require board work and quick perimeter puck movement to maintain pressure and possession. He can't play at the pace he currently plays if he wants to be effective. I appreciate his desire to initiate a shift in the current mentality of NHL coaching, but he'll be expected to hustle to retrieve the puck. The NHL remains a dump-and-chase league due to the effectiveness of defensive coaching strategies to mitigate rush chances. Offense is generally created through sustained o-zone pressure.

Rush-centric systems started to fade once the Dead Puck Era began. I think rush-reliant prospects are a greater risk overall than smart forecheckers in terms of their floor.

Jesse Puljujarvi is a perfect case study. I think the consensus is that he doesn't spend a lot of time on the boards and succeeds by attacking in transition at lower levels. Even with his frame, reach and skating ability, he struggled to generate anything more than outside shots off the rush with the Oilers in his last NHL stint.

Players generally need puck retrieval skills to succeed in the NHL.

Interesting that most liked his interview, seemingly Scheig included.

I don't think Perfetti is the most rush-dependent player at the top of this draft (I think that would be Byfield). But Perfetti's attitude isn't going to help. I want a player who is win by any means necessary, and doesn't strongly identify their personal expression with certain kinds of plays.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Interesting that most liked his interview, seemingly Scheig included.

I don't think Perfetti is the most rush-dependent player at the top of this draft (I think that would be Byfield). But Perfetti's attitude isn't going to help. I want a player who is win by any means necessary, and doesn't strongly identify their personal expression with certain kinds of plays.

You don’t like that Perfetti is extremely self aware? It doesn’t mean he won’t do it, it doesn’t mean he’s going to try to improve in areas. But he knows what he does best, and that is always going to be a positive.

So long as a kid is receptive to coaching and willing to work on things, there is no problem.

I swear some people look way too much into comments just trying to find something to consider concerning.

 

[majormajor]

You don’t like that Perfetti is extremely self aware?

That was your conclusion?

Go ahead and talk about the strengths of your game. But don't talk about what the smart and dumb systems are, you just pissed off half of the league's coaches.

 

[bsu]

A lot of people that were on the interview are saying Perfetti was the best interview they have had with any prospect in the last 10 years and that it was really refreshing talking to him.

 

[Hen Kolland]

A lot of people that were on the interview are saying Perfetti was the best interview they have had with any prospect in the last 10 years and that it was really refreshing talking to him.

Yes, but he apparently insulted half the coaches in the league, and he won’t try hard in the wrong (as determined by Perfetti) system.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Yes, but he apparently insulted half the coaches in the league, and he won’t try hard in the wrong (as determined by Perfetti) system.

good always question the big man

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Sam gagner with a shot unless he improves his speed

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Sam gagner with a shot unless he improves his speed

so he could put up 8 points in a game is what you’re saying

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

so he could put up 8 points in a game is what you’re saying

There is a chance.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Yes, but he apparently insulted half the coaches in the league, and he won’t try hard in the wrong (as determined by Perfetti) system.

its a one off comment but it is a bit concerning when forechecking is one of the worst parts of his games. Small players today succeed because they are relentless with non stop motors. I don't think Perfetti really sees that as his game though. Instead he seems to like operating as a poacher off the puck.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

its a one off comment but it is a bit concerning when forechecking is one of the worst parts of his games. Small players today succeed because they are relentless with non stop motors. I don't think Perfetti really sees that as his game though. Instead he seems to like operating as a poacher off the puck.

I think he likes a possession game where when you get the puck you don't give it up to have to go get it again. I appreciate his honesty but I think it will turn some of the old schoolers off

 

[majormajor]

I think he likes a possession game where when you get the puck you don't give it up to have to go get it again. I appreciate his honesty but I think it will turn some of the old schoolers off

Pretty much. I like players like Perfetti that can explain the game and play creatively. So does the media. I think they'll love him and this will get the Scouch type analysts to love him more because they also hate dump and chase. But it will probably hurt his draft stock.