C Logan Brown - Windsor Spitfires, OHL (2016, 11th, OTT)

[Sens of Anarchy]

This is an interesting time for Brown and Ottawa. Do they send him back to juniors to dominate and take part in the WJC, or do they slot him into Ryan's spot while he's out?

If Smith is back... its possible Brown may not stay in over Dido in 11-7 alignment... crazy but possible. I'd like him there but because of the minutes that line will play its more likely Brown would get shuffled down the lineup, although there's a good chance he gets an uptick in his PP time.

Smith Turris Dzingel
Hoffman Brass Stone
Pyatt Pageau Burrows
Brown Thompson Dido

 

[SpezDispenser]

He really hasn't played wing, not sure he's really an option.

I thought he was playing wing with Thompson last night?

 

[BondraTime]

I thought he was playing wing with Thompson last night?

He did, but I don't think he will be put in that position.

I'm sure if we had anyone else on the roster to dress Boucher would have, but they don't.

 

[SpezDispenser]

If Smith is back... its possible Brown may not stay in over Dido in 11-7 alignment... crazy but possible. I'd like him there but because of the minutes that line will play its more likely Brown would get shuffled down the lineup, although there's a good chance he gets an uptick in his PP time.

Smith Turris Dzingel
Hoffman Brass Stone
Pyatt Pageau Burrows
Brown Thompson Dido

I'd love for Brown to play on a third line for Ottawa, otherwise he might as well go back to junior.

 

[SpezDispenser]

He did, but I don't think he will be put in that position.

I'm sure if we had anyone else on the roster to dress Boucher would have, but they don't.

I wish Boucher would just deploy the kid out there. He's big, he hustles and he's got loads of skill, plus he goes to the dirty areas. God forbid we actually have some skill in the bottom six aside from Pageau.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

For such a big guy, he sure can move that stick in close. Top-skill guys like McDavid usually seem to dangle far away from their body. They create space by stick handling like 8 feet away from their body, move the puck across defenders and leave them out of position for the shot.

Brown is different, he gets in close like a phone booth and has great control without a lot of space and then uses back-hand or passes. Real play-maker. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing, just an observation.

 

[NHL Dude 120]

I still think he gets sent down to Juniors.

 

[DavePoulin4PM]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

 

[BondraTime]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

Thanks Dave

 

[DavePoulin4PM]

Thanks Dave

Well since you probably evaluate using charts, read this one: 35 career post season games, 6 goals. 11th OA pick..lol.

 

[BondraTime]

Well since you probably evaluate using charts, read this one: 35 career post season games, 6 goals. 11th OA pick..lol.

Thanks Dave

Might want to check your math , champ

 

[Sens Vader]

Well since you probably evaluate using charts, read this one: 35 career post season games, 6 goals. 11th OA pick..lol.

well that math sure shows you are terrible at reading charts, or just reading in general.

27 points in 19 playoff games this season. plus... he is a playmaker, so why dont you wake the hell up.

 

[derriko]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

You would take Logan Stanley over the other Logan?

Wait, what...?

 

[HSF]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

settle down Boris

 

[HasbeenHallzy]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

All credibility lost at Logan Stanley, loool

 

[jvr32]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

I somewhat agree from what I've seen. He will need some time in the AHL. It could be a similar situation to Dylan Strome. It doesn't mean he will not reach his potential.

I still wouldn't select Katchouk or Stanley before him though.

I don't see why you're attacked when you're just giving your honest opinion, which is reasonable in my opinion. I rather read stuff like this where people actually have watched games instead of messages of updates on points total or just quick twitter highlight.

 

[benjiv1]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

I don’t understand why you care so much?

I don’t look at rivals teams prospects and go on a tirade, what is the point.

You revived a thread that hadn’t had a comment in 6 months...

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Brown was brutal last night. Brutal. Total lack of effort. OP is dead on. I couldnt believe how small he came up in a huge game that was close wire to wire.

Kids have bad games, but Brown showed a complete lack of intensity. Even the Shaw guys said it but in a nice way "Brown appears nonchalant etc etc"

Skill off the charts. Dont know if that will be enough at the highest level.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I watched quite a few of Brown's games this year, although I didn't watch last night, but I do think that he suffers from playing the style he does at his size.

Tall, smooth, offensive players are often perceived as lazy and nonchalant because of their long stride and reach - they don't need to move as much as smaller players to cover the same amount of ground in the same amount of time. Where fans see the small player hustle, they see the tall player glide.

I remember when Ottawa drafted both Spezza and Vermette. After their first rookie camp, people thought Spezza was a coaster and Vermette a hustler.

I have no idea if that has anything to do with last night though.

 

[ForestCityHky]

Game 7 in a big boy series, heavy, physical with the chips down and where (predictably) was Logan Brown living? On the perimeter of course. He does not and WILL not go to the tough areas. He is as soft as butter. Not a great skater, not great at winning puck battles, not a great release. He can distribute the puck well at this level, but will be ineffective at the NHL level. He has very good vision and good hands, but has way too many deficiencies, the biggest ( unfixable) is lack of fortitude.

You have to question Dorions evaluation abilites, when you watch guys like Logan Stanley and Boris Katchouk, who were picked much later than Brown. Brown isn't even in the same zip code as these two guys.

Dave is right. Brown was non-existent last night. Happens too often with him. Not a quality you want in a player his size.

 

[ForestCityHky]

I don’t understand why you care so much?

I don’t look at rivals teams prospects and go on a tirade, what is the point.

You revived a thread that hadn’t had a comment in 6 months...

Why wouldnt someone post their thoughts on a thread that's been dead. People come to HF for prospect updates. It was valuable information.

Don't be too sensitive. Real fans should want the honest assessment of his play

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Why wouldnt someone post their thoughts on a thread that's been dead. People come to HF for prospect updates. It was valuable information.

Don't be too sensitive. Real fans should want the honest assessment of his play

Dude has a history of bashing Logan Brown. His opinion on this matter is pretty meaningless. 80% of his posts are probably about 6 different players, all of whom are either the greatest or the absolute worst.

 

[ForestCityHky]

Dude has a history of bashing Logan Brown. His opinion on this matter is pretty meaningless. 80% of his posts are probably about 6 different players, all of whom are either the greatest or the absolute worst.

Fair enough

In this game, he was right. Brown has been underwelming for a first round pick. Seems to leave me wanting more in probably 7 games this season

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Fair enough

In this game, he was right. Brown has been underwelming for a first round pick. Seems to leave me wanting more in probably 7 games this season

Fair - he definitely has to round out that aspect of his game and learn how to bring it every shift, every night.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This kind of stuff has been following Brown for 3 years now. He will need to learn to bring it more consistently. Not sure if its drive or conditioning or something else. When he is on though, he is pretty good and shows great vision, Iq, play making... Its disappointing to hear that he did not bring his best game to the biggest game. He had been producing most of the playoffs.