He also said that he wouldn't report to Prince George if he didn't make the team, hence why the Rockets traded for his rights and is almost assuredly going to said team.
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Obviously yes, but I doesn't help either. I wonder how much it influenced the Oilers?
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Would it be considered tampering? Perhaps it was the Raiders who reached out and inquired about the possibilities of Drai being sent down if a different option presented itself?
One thing is pretty obvious imo, the Rockets didnt trade for his rights without knowing he would be coming there.
Also there is a lot of wrong assumptions about the player in this thread in regards to his game.
Ladies and gents...we have a last minute submission for "worst post of the year"!!
Yes. All the dumb things the Oilers have done, it was all part of a master plan that was inititiate a decade ago to get Germany relegated.
We would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
No kidding.
Heck if we wanted to get Germany relegated we could have sent over the whole Oiler team.
It's awesome getting ridiculed for sucking.. then getting ridiculed for tanking from fans that have the draft *****.
But to also get blamed for the outcome of international tournaments?
Another one for the trophy mantle!
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Players get kept with their NHL club and not sent to the World Juniors all the time. Oilers do it, and they're hurting the spirit of the game, oh and they are responsible for Germany getting relegated.
This thread.
This thread. 
I heard the Oilers also caused the fukushima meltdown, and are responsible for Justin Bieber too.
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This post is cute. I never said that Oilers did it on "purpose", I said they are not smart enough to know how to properly develop NHL players. There is a reason why your team has one of the worst track records from drafting. Yes part of it has to be blamed on the scouts, but another whole part is due to a lack of development.
Okay let's take Draisaitl record thus far in the NHL....
- Made the Edmonton Oilers
- Put up 3 points in first 8 games
- Then scored 4 points in the remaining 24-27 games
- Before WJC started, got scratched
- After being scratched, has gotten just above 10 minutes a game
- Rights got traded during the WJC
- Rumours that he will be sent down during or after WJC
Draisaitl is clearly the Germans best player, they don't have the depth Canada has to replace someone like MacKinnon or Monahan. Not letting Leon play in a very competitive tournament where he can lead his team and develop even more is like taking away four Sam Reinhart's for Canada. Germany hockey organization and fans have an absolute right to be pissed what the Oilers did here (again not on purpose, but from stupidity). Germany would probably have always been in relegation spot, but without their best player who clearly isn't NHL ready makes no sense.
I love how the worst team in the league which have only won twice against Western opponents fanbase are defending the front office they clearly hate.
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Your whole argument is based on your assumption that the Oilers didn't let him go. Which makes this whole paragraph silly.
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Wait, what?
"When we first contacted them the situation in Edmonton was a little different," said German coach Pat Cortina, adding their talks with Edmonton were cordial. "I understood their way of thinking then. I guess it's too bad it wasn't like this when we first asked." (source)
So Germany wanted him. Tried to get him multiple times. Why isn't he there again?
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Considering Monahan earned a spot with his play and not just because his GM was foolish enough to leave 2 holes up the middle for his roster, it's not the same.
He was getting hammered on the advanced stats but was still decently productive in terms of goals and assists and was surrounded and insulated by veteran players. Draisaitl is struggling in all facets and is surrounded by the Edmonton Oilers.
Just to clarify, I don't care that he didn't go to the WJCs, that's his choice and if the team accepts that then very well. The WJC is a good way to get on the radar if you're a lesser talent, but that isn't necessary for a top 3 pick.
What I do care is the fact that MacT basically wasted an ELC year for no apparent reason. Draisaitl didn't stand out in his audition and inexplicably stayed up with the team when it would have been better served to send him down.
Prince Albert was going to have to trade him anyway, and they're both terrible at developing prospects anyways. Let him build confidence and prepare fully instead of throwing the baby into the deep end.
Spade you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to Drai and his development. Your posts reveal that you don't watch the Oilers enough because your comments about Drai are at best ignorant.
Drai needs to work on a few things. The biggest things he needs to work on is his speed and acceleration. He also needs to gain further strength and build more stamina. He gets very tired after 20-30 seconds on his shifts. Finally he needs to work on his defensive game (but most young players need to).
If you watched him instead of basing it on a small sample (which is obvious based on your comments) you would see that the Oilers kept him up to work on his areas for improvement. His speed and strength is best built by being in the nhl and working with professional speed coaches and strength and conditioning coaches. The best coaches are at the nhl level.
Going down to junior isn't going to help Drai that much. The kid is quite confident and he has displayed good vision and passing ability. These skills will be further enhanced and his effectiveness greater once he works on the areas I listed above. Going down to junior might not help him as much, as he is likely to dominate as he's bigger and stronger than a lot of the players he will go up against. So he could pick up bad habits. There was a play a few weeks back where Drai skated the puck to the offensive blueline and instead of dumping it in he tried to skate laterally and deke/stick handle the puck in. The dman outmuscled Drai and caused a turnover. That play is one that works in junior but not in the nhl as dmen are stronger and better skaters. Will Drai resort to this when he goes back down? Tough to say.
The one area he can improve going down is his play away from the puck and better defensive awareness. The Oilers sheltered him like crazy but hopefully he gets much more exposure when he goes down.
Now getting back to his development. The areas he needs to improve will come in time. And he needs coaching. I can't fault the Oilers for wanting there own coaches to work with him as thy can spend more time working with him.
The reasons for sending him down is because you are hurting the team...not Drai. By being up he here be is working with professional coaches building the strength and stamina and speed coaches who are working with him on his skating and leg strength.
The only benefit I can see for Drai is he will get more ice time and he can work on his defensive game.
Saying the Oilers are ruining his development is stupid as most of you have no clue what Drai even needs to work on. And if you did then you wouldn't make such foolish posts
Drai needs to work on a few things. The biggest things he needs to work on is his speed and acceleration. He also needs to gain further strength and build more stamina. He gets very tired after 20-30 seconds on his shifts. Finally he needs to work on his defensive game (but most young players need to).
If you watched him instead of basing it on a small sample (which is obvious based on your comments) you would see that the Oilers kept him up to work on his areas for improvement. His speed and strength is best built by being in the nhl and working with professional speed coaches and strength and conditioning coaches. The best coaches are at the nhl level.
Going down to junior isn't going to help Drai that much. The kid is quite confident and he has displayed good vision and passing ability. These skills will be further enhanced and his effectiveness greater once he works on the areas I listed above. Going down to junior might not help him as much, as he is likely to dominate as he's bigger and stronger than a lot of the players he will go up against. So he could pick up bad habits. There was a play a few weeks back where Drai skated the puck to the offensive blueline and instead of dumping it in he tried to skate laterally and deke/stick handle the puck in. The dman outmuscled Drai and caused a turnover. That play is one that works in junior but not in the nhl as dmen are stronger and better skaters. Will Drai resort to this when he goes back down? Tough to say.
The one area he can improve going down is his play away from the puck and better defensive awareness. The Oilers sheltered him like crazy but hopefully he gets much more exposure when he goes down.
Now getting back to his development. The areas he needs to improve will come in time. And he needs coaching. I can't fault the Oilers for wanting there own coaches to work with him as thy can spend more time working with him.
The reasons for sending him down is because you are hurting the team...not Drai. By being up he here be is working with professional coaches building the strength and stamina and speed coaches who are working with him on his skating and leg strength.
The only benefit I can see for Drai is he will get more ice time and he can work on his defensive game.
Saying the Oilers are ruining his development is stupid as most of you have no clue what Drai even needs to work on. And if you did then you wouldn't make such foolish posts
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I thought he played well too. But coach only played him 9 mins? strange. I thought in those 9 mins he was alot better than all his teamates.
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That is probably true. It was a physical game and if Draisaitl had been injured it would have thrown a wrench in to the Kelowna trade plan.
He had a better game than Roy but it's still better to send him down.
Was a whole lot better post then the usual rhetoric on these boards.
Send em down and let them develop!
Like these guys are film or something?
Not everyone develops in Junior... not everyone Develops at all.
this Idea that you magically become a better hockey player at 25 because you Developed in Junior is way way over exagerated here.
Leon Should go down because it's in the best interest of the Oilers concerning his contract.
He's not all of a sudden become a 30 goal scorer in the NHL when he's 22 becuase he played some junior hockey.. give me a break. It's just the lame cop out used on these boards to explain how a player didn't pan out.
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