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C Jack Eichel - Boston University, NCAA (2015, 2nd, BUF) III

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I can already tell he is going to give me nightmares in the playoffs in 5 years…UGH. Kid can play. Does a lot of things right. Knock on him was is D zone play, but he seems pretty damn responsible in his own zone during this tourney. He plays/leads like Toews, skates like Getzlaf with better top speed, sees the ice similar to Kane. You can't really put a pin point comparison to him. He is Jack Eichel
 
bigdog16 said:
I can already tell he is going to give me nightmares in the playoffs in 5 years…UGH. Kid can play. Does a lot of things right. Knock on him was is D zone play, but he seems pretty damn responsible in his own zone during this tourney. He plays/leads like Toews, skates like Getzlaf with better top speed, sees the ice similar to Kane. You can't really put a pin point comparison to him. He is Jack Eichel
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The knocks on d-zone play were simply attempts to find something to criticize from those who needed to do so. In fact, while he struggled with face offs early on before reversing that issue, his d-zone play and back-checking was strong all season at BU, as it has been at the Worlds.
 
Haven't followed the tourney that closely this year with the Flames being in the playoffs till recently (so no Flames competing), but how has Eichel looked compared to how Gaudreau looked last year? And before the bashing starts, I am not trying to compare them because there is no comparison (yes, Eichel is/will be WAY better). I'm just asking because for both it was there first taste of NHL calibre talent and it is fair to say I think that Gaudreau acquitted himself very, very well with many ridiculous highlight reel efforts. Eichel seems to be doing same. Both were arguably the best player on their respective teams. Just curious how those that are following closely see their relative impact. Scary how good he will be given his age/size (and what otherwise seems to be talent that at least equals Gaudreau's).
 
emmjayb said:
Haven't followed the tourney that closely this year with the Flames being in the playoffs till recently (so no Flames competing), but how has Eichel looked compared to how Gaudreau looked last year? And before the bashing starts, I am not trying to compare them because there is no comparison (yes, Eichel is/will be WAY better). I'm just asking because for both it was there first taste of NHL calibre talent and it is fair to say I think that Gaudreau acquitted himself very, very well with many ridiculous highlight reel efforts. Eichel seems to be doing same. Both were arguably the best player on their respective teams. Just curious how those that are following closely see their relative impact. Scary how good he will be given his age/size (and what otherwise seems to be talent that at least equals Gaudreau's).
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I think Johnny was more dangerous offensively. Eichel started slowly but is picking up steam the last few games. But overall so far edge to Gaudreau. But 2 years age difference at the time. He was 20.
 
SabresAreScaryGood said:
I think Johnny was more dangerous offensively. Eichel started slowly but is picking up steam the last few games. But overall so far edge to Gaudreau. But 2 years age difference at the time. He was 20.
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Have to agree. Gaudreau was everywhere in this tournament last season. Eichel has been fantastic, but he is also 2 years younger.

Both players seem to have gotten better as the tournament has progressed.
 
This thread really fell off to the third page. Not much talk about his play over the last couple of games other than the VS thread?
 
That goal shows exactly why Eichel has the make-up of the prototypical two-way elite force. Pushes a check off on the boards, reach and skating to protect the puck back to the point, does a sharp cut back while having the puck on his string, throws a pass with high-end vision for a goal. He is going to be a dominant forward down-low and has the assets to become a dominant two-way force, at his peak it should be impossible to take the puck away from him either in transition through neutral zone but especially down low in the offensive zone, all the while having the reach to cover large chunks of ice defensively and the physical make-up to win the majority of his puck battles even when defending. He should effectively be a more offensively talented Kopitar once he hits his peak. While McDavid has the higher offensive ceiling with his speed, puck-handling and instincts, he's also much more reliant on speed differentials through rush plays and does not show the make-up of someone who can be a dominant force down low and as a two-way player to the same extent as Eichel does. Still not convinced that the huge difference is there.
 
nki said:
That goal shows exactly why Eichel has the make-up of the prototypical two-way elite force. Pushes a check off on the boards, reach and skating to protect the puck back to the point, does a sharp cut back while having the puck on his string, throws a pass with high-end vision for a goal. He is going to be a dominant forward down-low and has the assets to become a dominant two-way force, at his peak it should be impossible to take the puck away from him either in transition through neutral zone but especially down low in the offensive zone, all the while having the reach to cover large chunks of ice defensively and the physical make-up to win the majority of his puck battles even when defending. He should effectively be a more offensively talented Kopitar once he hits his peak. While McDavid has the higher offensive ceiling with his speed, puck-handling and instincts, he's also much more reliant on speed differentials through rush plays and does not show the make-up of someone who can be a dominant force down low and as a two-way player to the same extent as Eichel does. Still not convinced that the huge difference is there.
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People probably think I'm crazy but I have them equal. And I think eichel will have an NHL impact earlier than mcdavid.
 
Sauced said:
Imagine eichel with Getzlaf and Perry
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No, go away it's not fair and I refuse to imagine something so sickeningly good. I'm not even sure you would want to play them together because not enough puck, but that team would run away with the league every year.
 
nki said:
That goal shows exactly why Eichel has the make-up of the prototypical two-way elite force. Pushes a check off on the boards, reach and skating to protect the puck back to the point, does a sharp cut back while having the puck on his string, throws a pass with high-end vision for a goal. He is going to be a dominant forward down-low and has the assets to become a dominant two-way force, at his peak it should be impossible to take the puck away from him either in transition through neutral zone but especially down low in the offensive zone, all the while having the reach to cover large chunks of ice defensively and the physical make-up to win the majority of his puck battles even when defending. He should effectively be a more offensively talented Kopitar once he hits his peak. While McDavid has the higher offensive ceiling with his speed, puck-handling and instincts, he's also much more reliant on speed differentials through rush plays and does not show the make-up of someone who can be a dominant force down low and as a two-way player to the same extent as Eichel does. Still not convinced that the huge difference is there.
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While what you say about Eichel is so they are different players. You don't want McDavid down low or banging away on the boards unless he is taking the puck to the net. Having said that he can stickhandle in a phone booth. Pavel Datsuyk (sp) is a tremendous defencsve player especially back checking. I've seen McDavid steal the puck manty times in the same way that Datsyuk does. You don't neccessarily need to be a rugged physical player to play tremendous defence.
 
do0glas said:
People probably think I'm crazy but I have them equal. And I think eichel will have an NHL impact earlier than mcdavid.
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Join the crazy club. Eichel plays a western conference game in the East, while McDavid plays an eastern conference game in the West. And there's a reason the West has won most of the last bunch of cups even with all the "superstars" out east.

Watching him play for BU he blew me away.
 
Aceonfire said:
I imagine HF Sabres would go into a full meltdown.

Hanafin is a possibility but I seriously doubt Eichel passes on being a teenaged millionaire. If he really doesn't want to play for the Sabres he should at least show up and try it out before making a decision. Murray would get a massive return for him anyways.
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You are aware this isn't football, yeah? He's Buffalo's even if he returns to college for another year.
 
Its pretty special how a kid can play in the WJC and the WHC in one year.

Its even more special when that same kid arguably has a better WHC than WJC tournament.
 
I don't even think it's an argument. He controlled play at times in WJC...but he made big time plays in the WHC.

Larkin was in both as well and is another guy who looks real good. He had a more productive WJC but on ice I thought he was excellent this tournament as well.
 
Yeah I don't think anyone can come up with even the hint of an argument that he isn't ready for the NHL. You don't even need the "well guys that good do just fine" anymore. He played against some great players in this tournament and was more than ready. On top of that he was already stupidly dominant as a freshman at the level he would be going back to. If he went back he'd score 100 points in an NCAA season. Which would be as ridiculous as it is useless to his development.
 
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