For me, is a 2015 copy of Mario Lemieux. Big, strong, elite IQ, strong shot and make anyone around him better.
C Jack Eichel (2015, 2nd, BUF) IV
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McFlyingV
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I like Eichel and was more than excited of the prospect of the Oilers getting him when they sat 2nd last in the league and McDavid was just a pipe dream. I think he'll be a top 5-10 player in the league like Tavares every year (possibly a bit better than Tavares). Im afraid you're going to be very disappointed with expectations of him being a Lemieux copy. He's no where near the level of prospect that Lemieux was.
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I had voted Eichel.
there were some oiler votes for Eichel from what I saw. Also if you take out the oiler votes there were a lot of neutral fans voting JT.
also a 9.0B isint bad. I would have given a 9.5C though
SmellOfVictory
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I don't think anyone actually thought this might happen. Given his talents, worst case (if he didn't like Buffalo) he either asks for a trade partway through his contract, or goes UFA at 25.
You make it sound like they're equal parts. He MUCH more often hunts than floats. It's sometimes a little deceiving with how easy he makes skating look. Everybody his age floats a little, especially given how much better he was than other players around him. I just don't see it being a concern considering how hard he works and how competitive he is.
PWJunior
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Why stop at Mario? Why not Howe or LaFleur? Or a combination of the 3?
I'm surprised Eichel hasn't been inducted into the Hall yet.
Why stop at Mario? Why not Howe or LaFleur? Or a combination of the 3?
I'm surprised Eichel hasn't been inducted into the Hall yet.
Why stop at Mario? Why not Howe or LaFleur? Or a combination of the 3?
I'm surprised Eichel hasn't been inducted into the Hall yet.
Why are you so salty lmao. Like it isn't a slight to Tavares that Eichel is a better prospect than he was, it just shows how good Eichel is
PWJunior
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I didn't even mention Tavares. I'm just amused at some of the names being thrown around in here. Mario Lemieux? Give me a freaking break, my god. I guess I'm salty because I'm not drinking the generational kool-aid. Might need to pump the brakes a little.
ForsakenSabre
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He is one of several Islanders fans with a vendetta against the Sabres. Check his post history lol.
PWJ's post is common sense. The kid hasn't even played a game yet.
What do you guys think of a Jean Beliveau comparison? Or maybe Vincent Lecavalier back when he was good?
It's not equal but its 40/60 for me. He doesn't want the puck enough at times and it leads to longer zone time for the other team, scoring chances against, etc. I know he can take a couple strides and go fast but McDavid just has this always go, go, go engine. Eichel doesn't have that consistent wanting of the puck and that effort. Things like this aren't really teachable and you can't really improve it, it's just the way people are. Eichel is still a good player but with a big guy like him he would be much better with a non-stop engine.
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Don't get so defensive. I'm not calling this guy a bust. We got a bit off-topic but it's supposed to be connected to who always Tavares hustles and wants the puck.
OvermanKingGainer
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...You're comparing an 18 year old junior player playing against 16-17 year olds to an 18 year old college player playing against entire teams of fully developed 22-23 year olds who spend much more of their off-time in the weight room and practicing systems and details. Regardless of anything else, you can't just assume things would appear the same if they switched places. I'd reserve such generalizations until I saw them play in the same league against the same level of competition. Eichel single-handedly took a BU team that was projected to be in a rebuilding year to one goaltender choke of a soft goal away from a national championship, you don't do that by "not wanting the puck enough".
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Sam Reinhart basically never "hunts for the puck", but somehow he just ends up getting the puck...
It's about positioning yourself accurately as a center. Eichel's skating style just is pretty "straight" and he doesn't bury his head or go low. That combined with the fact that without the puck he is basing his game more on positioning than relentless puck hounding, makes him seem "lazy" in the eyes of those who really can't read the game. Same people say that Reinhart is invisible and overrated. They just see the obvious things on ice.
McDavid will be a lot more prone to injuries than Eichel, because of the differences in their playing styles.
Not defensive...I object to the whole narrative you present as a false one and lacking factual clarity. So...clueless.
Lol at Sabre fans getting ******** for people laughing at a Lemieux comparison, wonder why 
A prime Lecavalier is actually a good comparison
A prime Lecavalier is actually a good comparison
Lol at Sabre fans getting ******** for people laughing at a Lemieux comparison, wonder why
A prime Lecavalier is actually a good comparison
Loo...at Islander fans that care about it.
Heraldic
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Lol at Sabre fans getting ******** for people laughing at a Lemieux comparison, wonder why
To who he is or to who he is not compared is totally irrelevant.
The point is that this narrative about Eichel being "lazy" without the puck is just a production of agenda driven hogwash. I mean, does someone actually think that Sam Reinhart works against your team's possession just because he is not a relentless puck hound?
I'm sure that Zetterberg, H.Sedin, Couturier, O'Reilly etc. are bad players possession wise.
Beerz
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Lol at Sabre fans getting ******** for people laughing at a Lemieux comparison, wonder why
A prime Lecavalier is actually a good comparison
It's not silly to compare Eichel and Mario ..they have similarities. Just because they have some comparable abilities doesn't mean Eichel is going to turn into Mario or even be close.
To who he is or to who he is not compared is totally irrelevant.
The point is that this narrative about Eichel being "lazy" without the puck is just a production of agenda driven hogwash. I mean, does someone actually think that Sam Reinhart works against your team's possession just because he is not a relentless puck hound?
I'm sure that Zetterberg, H.Sedin, Couturier, O'Reilly etc. are bad players possession wise.
Ive never seen anybody who watches Eichel play a lot say anything bad about his play without the puck so yeah. That is ridiculous and I havent seen anybody really beat on that anywhere honestly.
Beerz
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He does need to improve away from the puck. Bylsma has stated as much. It's not laziness ... he just needs to utilize his skating ability when he doesnt have the puck.. It's just the small things that separate good nhl players and great nhl players.. things that all 18 yr olds have to improve on in order to take the next steps.
