C German Rubtsov (2016, 22nd, PHI)
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kp61c
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and now he was dominating a lesser league like the mhl. he looked like crap in the mhl. if i've ever seen a bust in the making, it's rubtsov.
Fantomas
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I think Rubtsov was frustrated with his season and looked for a fresh start. I get it. But I don't like it because he is simply running away from his problems.
It's cowardice.
LegionOfDoom91
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I don't think they legitimately thought he would be here this year at that time because of his contract. It came out the morning of the Import draft that he wasn't coming over & the sense was that it wasn't a bluff IIRC.
Exactly. This and next year was supposed to be russian hockey for him. I´m glad they got him out of hell, whatever went wrong over there.
For me its not important if he plays QMJHL, CHL or OHL. He plays top 6 minutes and all situations, thats all that matters.
CanuckistanFlyerfan
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Yes...out of any player i've ever seen...Rubtsov has the most bust potential.
Hows the sour grapes tasting?
CanuckistanFlyerfan
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Just like in most leagues, top teams will trade for depth/quality for the playoff run.
Acallabeth
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I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling this cowardice, but it's definitely taking an easy way out of a difficult situation. The thing I dislike most is Rubtsov cutting himself from a likely opportunity to play the next season with a professional club in favor of joining a kid's team for at least 2 years (does anybody really believe he'll make the NHL right off the gates?).
Appleyard
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If he plays well for the rest of the season and adds more muscle/strength in the off-season he will likely be in the AHL next season. AHL is not as good as KHL... but if he is ready physically next year he will be playing against men nonetheless.
1.He won't be eligible for the AHL for quite some time just because he is in the CHL now.
2.AHL<KHL
He has chosen an easy, cosy path short term that will cost him an arm and a leg long term.
LegionOfDoom91
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Not true. The rule only applies to players drafted out of the CHL. Rubtsov is not held to that rule being drafted out of the Russian system. He's eligible to play in the AHL next year from a legal standpoint.
Appleyard
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He could play in the AHL right now from a rules perspective.
He was drafted out of Europe, so the CHL rules dictating prospects under the age of 20/4 years service, with CHL rights not being able to play in the AHL do not apply.
Just like Julius Honka.
Players who were drafted while playing in Europe and then play in the CHL later can play in the AHL under the age of 20. But if a European player is drafted out of the CHL are held to the rules and cannot.
Rubtsov can play QMJHL, AHL or NHL next year... heck, Vityaz still own his rights, the Flyers could loan him there if they really wanted to.
Stizzle
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You don't know what your talking about. He is eligible to play there full time next season.
Tripod
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Thank you Caser for being an honest responder instead of letting your flag cloud things like others in here have done.
The fact that some are saying he is "cowardice", looked like crap in the MHL, and a big bust, just shows how some cannot see past that flag.
Hell, most Flyers fans in here have been saying he should have been in the VHL. It's not like we are saying he should be getting top 6 minutes in the KHL. we know he is not ready for that.
Oh well, he has moved on. The haters will hate regardless. But hey, at least you learned something new about the rules and that he can be in the AHL next year.
Magua
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The option to go to the AHL is a good one. I think now being able to attend development camp over the summer will be a fun, informative thing for him.....going to NHL training camp, regardless of end result, will be good for him and a good barometer. If he can go right to the AHL next season, that's great. If he spends another year in the QMJHL playing in a "kid's league" -- though probably with another team who needs a top center, as Chicoutimi is basically going for broke this year before the team bottoms out -- that's great too.
In my mind, 9 months out (which is a heckuva long time for things to change), I'd err towards him going back to the Q, given that he's a summer birthday, still needs quite a bit of bulking up, and most importantly, just needs to keep exploring his offensive abilities and confidence against his age group. I'm wary of seeing a talented, creative kid who has been jostled around a bit and forced to play the role of safe, defense-first player (which he is good at) stunted on the offensive side of his game. But options are great, and he has them.
P.S. Not even knowing how the developmental system works sort of invalidates anything said on the development of Rubtsov, eh?
In my mind, 9 months out (which is a heckuva long time for things to change), I'd err towards him going back to the Q, given that he's a summer birthday, still needs quite a bit of bulking up, and most importantly, just needs to keep exploring his offensive abilities and confidence against his age group. I'm wary of seeing a talented, creative kid who has been jostled around a bit and forced to play the role of safe, defense-first player (which he is good at) stunted on the offensive side of his game. But options are great, and he has them.
P.S. Not even knowing how the developmental system works sort of invalidates anything said on the development of Rubtsov, eh?
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While I appreciate your praise, it is definitely not right to call people with different opinion 'haters'. I think it is obvious that Russian posters don't hate him, at least because we just don't have any other option for the U20 NT #1 center spot next year.
Anyway, if anyone is thinking that he should've stayed in the MHL and tried to get the KHL spot next year - that's definitely not a hate. But yeah, maybe rhetorics get a bit too harsh here sometimes.As for me, I'm still a bit upset with him playing at wing, as from what I've seen, at W he is a shade of himself at C, at least in terms of offense. Anyway, it will be more important what happens to him next season, than this season.
Acallabeth
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We'll see, obviously. I doubt that he'll be ready for the AHL next year, as he wasn't really dominating the MHL, and while we'll see how he fares in the QMJHL over a prolonged period of time, a jump will be tough. The thing is that a player can fluctuate through the K-V-MHL system even if he's not ready at the start.
By the way:
He's talking about a different thing: it's common for the KHL teams to send young players from the main roster to their MHL affiliates after the big club's season is over.
CanuckistanFlyerfan
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I understand that...he asked where the Q teams would get reinforced and I answered. It's not the same, but it's still adding talent/depth.
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