Lol disregard historical probability two posts before, comment unreasonable personal expectations
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Lol disregard historical probability two posts before, comment unreasonable personal expectations
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I think it's more likely they let him play for the Marlies next season. Rightfully so.
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Leaf Lander
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Brian burke must not had taken the leafs job very seriously. First. Trades away our draft choices as our team was bottoming out for fat Phil. Then he drafted a 3 rd line in Gaithier and he didn't even. Suggest that hour would be anything more then a bottom 6 forward. Bet he is 3 yrs away
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With a 21st pick you expect an NHLer, which he likely is down the road. Anyone who expects a top 6 forward with a late first needs a reality check, a good percentage of those guys don't even make it in any capacity.
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I like how everyone is in love with him and would be happy if their team picked him and signing his praises until he gets drafted by the leafs, then the thread does a complete 180
bet if i wander into nylander's thread its the same deal
that being said I think Gauthier @ 22-26 is going to be a nightmare to play against
bet if i wander into nylander's thread its the same deal
that being said I think Gauthier @ 22-26 is going to be a nightmare to play against
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Martin Hanzal-lite is how people referred to him. Now? he's an ECHLer
You look at the Nylander thread and its "He's the swedish Patrick Kane. I hope my team drafts him!" Now? "LOL Leafs fans overrate their prospects so much the guy will be lucky to see the NHL.."
Freddy's got skills. Top 6 skills? maybe, most likely not. Third-Fourth line/PK Specialist skills? Definitely. He'll be the guy we throw out when up 1 with 30 seconds left and we want to win the face off... and he'll get it done. He's a piece of the puzzle. For a 21st Overall pick? Hell yeah I'll take that.
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Agreed. He's exactly the type of player you need in the playoffs. I think he'll be a vital piece along with Leipsic on that 4th line.
I think he means that for a first round pick it seems strange to pick a guy with no real chance of ever being a top 6 player. I'd much rather rake the risk on a player like Mantha even if he may bust over a guy who is more of a "guarantee" yet doesn't have even close to the same upside.
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When Gautier was picked no player like mantha was available I hate seeing people compare the 2 if the leafs could have they would have
canucks10
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But if look at the 3 guys taken right after him (Poirier, Burakovsky, Shinkaruk) all those guys have top 6 upside even if Gauthier might be the safer bet to make it there were high skilled players available at that pick
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This has faulted me before, but my idea has always been tie goes to the center.
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Leafs were rumoured to be interested in Poirer who was ranked at best as a late first and into the second round on a lot of lists. It would have been a bit of a reach at the time of the draft, Leaf fans would have lost their ****. Most people didn't mind the pick at the draft, the displeasure and "we should have picked player x" is coming with multiple years of hindsight. Shinkaruk isn't exactly blowing people out of the water either and if he isn't a top 6 player, probably won't be one at all. I'd rather get a guy who had a chance of being top 6 at the draft, with a higher chance of becoming a player in a bottom 6 role if he doesn't develop the skill to be a top 6 player.
In hindsight, Poirer and Burakowsky look better, but some people are acting like this was a known fact at the time of the draft.
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I don't think anyone, ever thought Gauthier will be a Top 6 forward. If this guy reaches his ceiling he will be Gaustad, if not he will be a career AHLer.
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Gauthier is the type of prospect that we should spend a long time developing before he hits the NHL. I'd like to see him get ~two full seasons on the Marlies, maybe more.
Ideally he can develop some kind of offensive game and become an elite defensive 3rd line C with some secondary scoring ability.
Ideally he can develop some kind of offensive game and become an elite defensive 3rd line C with some secondary scoring ability.
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PPG in your draft year where it's your first year in the CHL gave him an outside shot at becoming a top 6 guy. There's been zero progression offensively speaking though, so yea, at this point, Gaustad is roughly what he's projected to be as long as things go well.
Very strong defensive C with very little offence at the NHL level.
Gauthier strikes me as a player that will play 800-1000 games in the NHL and never crack 15 goals in a season. Doubt anyone has expected him to be a top 6 center. He's going to fly under the radar even in Leafland, so I suspect he'll transition pretty well in the NHL.
His game really can't be measured by his numbers in Junior. He is the kind of player that translates better in the AHL and NHL.
His game really can't be measured by his numbers in Junior. He is the kind of player that translates better in the AHL and NHL.
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And who wouldn't take that? kadri's most likely the #2 for the next few years so that basically means that Gauthier was going to be a #1 or a #3. I dont think anyone had him penciled in at #1
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Not really.. you can just overpay a bit and get a guy like Gordon who is Gauthiers upside
With a first round pick you don't draft projected role players, you go for risky guys with high upsides and fill the gaps later.
You can always find a Gordon in FA, its much harder to get a Perron/Eberle/Paciorety etc
Gauthier upside wasn't offensive, but it was there none the less.
And no Gordon is not his upside. All third liners are not created equal. Gauthier was a first round prospect because there was the chance he could turn into the true modern version of the shutdown centre. A guy that you can play against the top centres in the league and shut them down with both defensive awareness and possession play. While his high end finishing/ playmaking skill is practically non-existent he does have the size, skill and offensive awareness to maintain and drive possession play in the other teams end even if he never gets anything done
. The player that he had/ has the potential to be (though it looks like he'll never get there) is rare and more valuable than a run of the mill top 6 winger. He negates the other teams top lines, freeing up yours to run rampant on weaker opposition, he tilts the ice in your favor, he allows you to win without a stud 1st line centre.
That is not Boyd Gordon. While it looks like that is all he may become at this point, his potential was so much more
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