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C Dylan Strome (2015, 3rd, ARI; traded to CHI) III

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i wasnt overly serious about ppg. but he should have an opportunity with debrincat and or kane no? eventually...

whos replacing schmaltz?
 
How many NHL players that were struggling from their start of their careers were kick started by a reunion with a former teammate from jr etc?

I'm not trying to be an ass, just generally curious.
 
Dodospice said:
It’s amazing how quickly some are to label a player a bust. We’re talking about a 21 year old kid, playing his 2nd season of pro hockey that torched the AHL last year and has 16 points in 48 NHL games, which would be 27 points ovee 82 games. It’s way too early to make a determination on him one way or the other, I think the trade was a good one for both teams but why is everyone so quick to turn on a 21 year old?
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Dylan Strome is not a bust, yet. However, he is lagging behind his draft class. As it stands now, the Arizona Coyotes are the biggest losers of the 2015 entry draft. Not only did they miss out on McDavid (1) and Eichel (2), but they also had some really good talent drafted after them like Marner (4) Hanifin (5) Provorov (7) Werenski (8) Meier (9) Rantanen (10) Barzel (16) Conner (17) Chabot (18) Boeser (23) Konecny (24) and Aho (35) If Strome (3) lives up to his draft ranking in Chicago and excels more than Schmaltz, then Arizona will be even bigger losers in this draft and have more egg on their face. However, if Strome turns out to be a bust and Schmaltz excels, then Arizona saves some face. I think John Cyayka's legacy largely rides on the outcome of this trade.
 
Dr Black said:
Dylan Strome is not a bust, yet. However, he is lagging behind his draft class. As it stands now, the Arizona Coyotes are the biggest losers of the 2015 entry draft. Not only did they miss out on McDavid (1) and Eichel (2), but they also had some really good talent drafted after them like Marner (4) Hanifin (5) Provorov (7) Werenski (8) Meier (9) Rantanen (10) Barzel (16) Conner (17) Chabot (18) Boeser (23) Konecny (24) and Aho (35) If Strome (3) lives up to his draft ranking in Chicago and excels more than Schmaltz, then Arizona will be even bigger losers in this draft and have more egg on their face. However, if Strome turns out to be a bust and Schmaltz excels, then Arizona saves some face. I think John Cyayka's legacy largely rides on the outcome of this trade.
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No. John Chayka's "legacy" doesn't ride on the outcome of this trade or anything you posted. He wasn't responsible for drafting Dylan Strome. He is cleaning the mess of Don Maloney with this trade.
 
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jaeger said:
No. John Chayka's "legacy" doesn't ride on the outcome of this trade or anything you posted. He wasn't responsible for drafting Dylan Strome. He is cleaning the mess of Don Maloney with this trade.
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Chayka was hired as assistant GM in May 2015, so he certainly had input with the Coyotes' 2015 draft selections. Furthermore, "the mess of Don Maloney" includes a guy Chayka just traded away to the Habs after a down year and is pulling above a PPG on his new team through 24 games as well as another guy he just extended for six years and 27 million despite back injuries.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and there's a defenseman Maloney drafted in 2009 that Chayka just extended to an 8 year, $66 million contract and was also named team captain before the season too.
 
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jaeger said:
No. John Chayka's "legacy" doesn't ride on the outcome of this trade or anything you posted. He wasn't responsible for drafting Dylan Strome. He is cleaning the mess of Don Maloney with this trade.
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If Dylan Strome turns out to be a bust and Nick Schmaltz does well in Arizona, then John Chayka will look like a genius for cutting bait with Strome while he was able to get some value in return.

On the other hand, if Dylan Strome excels in Chicago, John Chayka will be criticized and second-guessed for giving up on Strome way too soon.

So you are wrong if you suggest that this trade doesn't eventually shape John Chayka's legacy, one way or another.
 
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Granted, my own level of scouting probably wasn't very good back then but he seemingly had all the skill in the world and combined it with a terrific compete level. What's not to like?
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The fact that he played really dumb. He was incredibly frustrating to watch because he felt like he could let his tools take over and tried to force offence through himself. He has an unreal shot when it comes to strength and placement but he takes a bit too long to load it up at times and in juniors he would often take the shot knowing he could probably beat an OHL goalie instead of passing to his teammate who would have a better look.

Everyone ragged on his skating but my biggest beef with him as a prospect back then was how he tried to be "The Guy" and wouldnt defer to his teammates when it was the smart play. His tools were good enough for that not to matter but it came up as a big red flag in the world juniors when other teams where better than a typical OHL team and made him look bad at 5v5. I figured AHL time would be needed, not to improve his skating but to improve his decision making and to realize that he is better off using his line mates instead of forcing offence through himself.
 
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Rabid Ranger said:
Yeah, the ole one game evaluation period rears its ugly head once more.
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I’ve always liked Strome. That said, if he stays between DeBrincat and Kane that will be a significantly better situation than anything he could have had in Phoenix.
 
Looked good on the Points he did, good forecheck etc.
How was the rest of the game?
Im conflicted about Strome, you want him to get going, but not ina central team :P
 
howkie said:
Looked good on the Points he did, good forecheck etc.
How was the rest of the game?
Im conflicted about Strome, you want him to get going, but not ina central team :P
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Probably a top 5 player on the ice honestly. Yeah he’s not the fastest guy, but he’s smart. He knew where to go for the puck. His forechecking led directly to the third goal.

He did lose a face off that to Reaves and then the puck bounced off him and in the net, but that was way more fluky than people are leading on.
 
It was a bold move by Chayka considering he sent away Domi and watches as Max becomes Mr. Montreal almost overnight.

But giving up on three first rounders in a the span of a few months? Shouldn't the Coyotes be asking why are their top prospects not excelling for them before shipping them off for other teams' reclamation projects? I'd fire the Coyotes coach, assistants and probably the trainers as well before I'd trade a 21-year-old, former 3rd overall pick away.
 
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