C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) IV
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Sonic Disturbance
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Isn't McDavid listed at 6'0? Crosby is 5'11 and pretty stocky (200 pounds). Also, I'm not sure if McDavid has a skating advantage at the same age. Crosby was one of the most explosive skaters in the league as a teen, but lost a step, I think from the high ankle sprain/wear & tear/concussions.
SmellOfVictory
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He's listed at 6'1, 187 already, so I'd guess he'll end up a smidge bigger than Crosby.
Bure All Day
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I think that's basically the range Crosby was put at when he was getting drafted.
I agree with your assessment of not being on Crosby's compete level, but then again, guys like Lemieux or even Gretzky didn't even seem to try as hard as Crosby does, so it may not be a bad thing.
I'd say 10B-/C+. Definitely a fair chance he will be a generational talent.
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I will ask a scout saturday. Look for the guys usually alone with a clipboard. 
Sonic Disturbance
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Checked out the highlights, McDavid is noticeably bigger (taller and heavier) than last year at the WJC. I can definitely buy the 6'1 190 he's listed at.
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Don't see him having a higher rating than Crosby.
His recent performances at least make him warrant a comparison with Crosby, which I didn't think so in the past. However, people need to remember this is his 3rd season in junior. He's currently 6 months older than Crosby was in his second season, and he has more experience at the CHL level to boot. For a guy of his talent, he is expected to perform at this level given the circumstances. I'm not sure I'd be willing to put him on the same level - let alone above - Crosby as a prospect.
Bure All Day
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Well I think he was underrated, because Crosby was fairly easily going to be a generational talent. He should've been a 10B, which makes my rating for McDavid fair.
If Crosby didn't deserve a 10B, then who does lol. Should he have scored 200 points in his draft year? I mean he scored 168 in 62 games, dominated in the playoffs, played very well at the world juniors. What more can anyone ask?
In any case, McDavid is at least a 10C.
Edit: Actually, re-reading the rankings, I think McDavid is more in the 9.5B range. I think he's between a true generational talent like Gretzky, and elite talent like Kovalchuk. He has a good chance of reaching that potential, but I could see him dropping to an 8.5 if things don't go as well as expected.
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The criteria for 10 is generational player, no matter how good you are in juniors saying that someone will "probably" be a generational talent is difficult.
A 10C would just imply that he had a chance of becoming that player, but it was also possible he could have been "only" a superstar player, reaching say a 9/10 maybe even a 9.5.
Bure All Day
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So your saying he'll be Barkov/Kuznetsov level. lol wut.
I just said I'd put him at a 10C or 9.5B, so idk what you're talking about
In your post you said he could drop to 8.5......which is what Barkov and Kuznetsov are/were rated.
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Shouldn't McDavid also find a good home in Canada?
Yup Vancouver sounds nice.
Bure All Day
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10C which mean he had a chance of being one of those guys. I'd say he ended up a 9.5. Although he's still considered a generational talent so maybe a 10 is a fair rating.
Bure All Day
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That's what a B rating means.
When someone gives him a 10C, it means he has the potential to be a 10, but could fall as low as an 8.0. That doesn't mean we think he's going to be an 8, it means that if he doesn't pan out the way he's projected he could end up an 8.
And don't compare him to current prospects, cause there's no way of knowing how they'll end up either.
Read this, and maybe you'll understand what we mean when we are trying to give these ratings.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/
No way he should be a C. 9.5 or 10 B.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I was trying to say that I don't think McDavid should drop below 9. YES McDavid absolutely should be a 10 but its only a good to fair chance he becomes 10 while there is almost a certainty he will be a perrenial all star. AKA B. I'm quite used to HF's projection system. However, it IS a matter of ones opinions in the end.
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I don't think you understand how the ratings work.
He said he would be a 10B (I would personally say C, I dont see him actually being generational).
This means that he has the POTENTIAL to be the best player in the world, but by the end of his career, could end up "just" being your typical 1st line centre.
If he were given a 10A, this would mean he would definitely be a generational player.
Personally I think you have to give him a 10. He has all the "tools" to be a generational player, but the letter grade all depends on how likely you think it is that he puts it all together.
To me his peak potential is definitely a 10, I just don't think he reaches it as I haven't seen him put it all together yet the way Crosby did.
please refer to my prior post where I explain myself instead of me putting vague BS like a quack.
