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C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) II

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Patmac40 said:
Duchene, O'Reilly, Landeskog, Stastny, Parenteau, Tanguay, Mackinnon aren't an elite forward group right now?
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Group, yes, but individually, no. Duchene is the only possible exception right now. Landeskog also has that potential. O'Reilly, not quite, but will be and is a very valuable player.

EDIT: I forgot MacKinnon, he obviously has elite potential.
 
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TheJuxtaposer said:
Duchene is elite. Mackinnon will be.
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Woops, can't believe I didn't mention MacKinnon as having potential. :facepalm:

Duchene, I'd say he's in the say boat as Couture, where he needs to maintain this sort of level for the rest of the season before being called elite.
 
CanadienShark said:
Group, yes, but individually, no. Duchene is the only possible exception right now. Landeskog also has that potential. O'Reilly, not quite, but will be and is a very valuable player.

EDIT: I forgot MacKinnon, he obviously has elite potential.
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Well as a group that's what matters. They mesh well in many facets of the game. If you have a top-6 of all elite players then I'd love to know how you do it. As a forward group, they are nearly as good as it gets.
 
Patmac40 said:
Well as a group that's what matters. They mesh well in many facets of the game. If you have a top-6 of all elite players then I'd love to know how you do it. As a forward group, they are nearly as good as it gets.
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But the poster was talking about being surrounded with elite talent. You can't just add a bunch of good talents to create one elite talent. The only arguably elite talent they have right now is Duchene.
 
CanadienShark said:
But the poster was talking about being surrounded with elite talent. You can't just add a bunch of good talents to create one elite talent. The only arguably elite talent they have right now is Duchene.
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I see where you're coming from. I guess that it's just tough for a team to actually have enough elite players (depending on your definition) to surround others. It seems like Colorado's forward group has so much talent along with Duchene's elite talent that it's really tough to top.
 
Patmac40 said:
I see where you're coming from. I guess that it's just tough for a team to actually have enough elite players (depending on your definition) to surround others. It seems like Colorado's forward group has so much talent along with Duchene's elite talent that it's really tough to top.
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Oh believe me, in the coming years, I think they will have that elite group. I'll give my Sharks as an example. Hertl has walked onto a group with Thornton, Marleau, Couture, Pavelski and Burns - all are elite, or nearly elite forwards. That is what I consider an elite supporting cast. Once O'Reilly and Landeskog develop into better forwards and MacKinnon develops, then I would consider that an elite forward group in terms of elite talent. But as of now, it's a bunch of good to very good players, with a lot of depth. I suppose you could call that an elite group, but not elite talent as individuals.
 
Howboutthempanthers said:
The word usually says hello.
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I'm not even sure "usually" applies. Small sample, but here are some of the last few:

05: Crosby (Malkin)
07: Kane (Toews)
08: Stamkos (St. Louis)
11: RNH (Hall)
12: Yakupov (oh, Oilers. See above)
13: MacKinnon (Duchene)

It actually seems more rare that a team only has one high end offensive guy than having at least a pair of them, to be honest. They might not all be elite, per se, but generally there's at least someone like an Eberle, Moulson, Pominville calibre player who can provide a good offensive linemate to an elite player.
 
looks to me

that he is the unique type of player that makes the others around him better. you can see the crosby comparisons based on the vision both possess and that ability to make linemates around them raise their level of play. will him be better then crosby??? who knows, those are some pretty big shoes to fill. however, the fact the he is in the same mold as sid and plays a similar type of game. that's a player teams dream dream about and that's why there is so much hype. can't wait to see his skills grow along with his height and weight. gona be a good one.
 
SmellOfVictory said:
I'm not even sure "usually" applies. Small sample, but here are some of the last few:

05: Crosby (Malkin)
07: Kane (Toews)
08: Stamkos (St. Louis)
11: RNH (Hall)
12: Yakupov (oh, Oilers. See above)
13: MacKinnon (Duchene)

It actually seems more rare that a team only has one high end offensive guy than having at least a pair of them, to be honest. They might not all be elite, per se, but generally there's at least someone like an Eberle, Moulson, Pominville calibre player who can provide a good offensive linemate to an elite player.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Malkin join the league after Crosby?
 
LeafsNation149 said:
He was drafted the year before
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He was drafted the year before Crosby and played his first year in the NHL the year after Crosby's rookie year.

Kinda same with Kane and Toews. Toews was drafted the year before, but their rookies years were the same year. So I don't know if you can say Kane was walking in to play with "elite" talent already on the squad.
 
He has cooled down... only 37 pts in 23 games. Only a 1.61 PPG pace. That's still extremely good but that's not Crosby like numbers...
 
Nicko999 said:
He has cooled down... only 37 pts in 23 games. Only a 1.61 PPG pace. That's still extremely good but that's not Crosby like numbers...
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That is ońe strange line of stats... He should be on the top of OHL scoring, easily IF Connor Brown is there now. I bet McDavid's production will explode any time now.
 
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