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C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) II

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JayKing said:
Better at what? Because it's certainly not at hockey.
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:handclap: What a stupid thing to say to sell some magazines to unknowledgeable people. Crosby is sort of a once in a lifetime player, he's unbelievably gifted but he's been lucky to been part of or have moments that'll never happen again. It's almost like a dream in his case from Juniors to where he is now.
 
Not only do I hope he lives up to the hype but I also hope he carries himself with class and shows good sportsmanship unlike Crosby. It would be nice to actually be able to root for and enjoy the best player in the game.
 
habsrule4eva3089 said:
:handclap: What a stupid thing to say to sell some magazines to unknowledgeable people. Crosby is sort of a once in a lifetime player, he's unbelievably gifted but he's been lucky to been part of or have moments that'll never happen again. It's almost like a dream in his case from Juniors to where he is now.
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Once in a lifetime? We've already had Lemieux and Gretzky who are superior in our lifetime, and Jagr who is an equal.
 
7even said:
Almost all non-Penguins fans hate Crosby? I would hope not. I'm a Leafs fan and nobody impresses me more in the game today than Sidney Crosby, and I think it's amazing I've been lucky enough to be a hockey fan during his career. One of the all time greats.
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Of all the greats he seems to be the one generating the most hate, and i think at least part of the reason is the hype (warranted) and people going out of the way saying stuff like "he is making others looking like amateurs"
When you read stuff that doesn't match with what you see, it bothers you and you associate the innocent player with that annoyance..
heck, it bothers me even if i'm a fan of his.

As for McDavid, i actually think he is more skilled than Sid, so i think he has a chance to be even better, but to make it actually happen is FAR from easy..
 
To those saying it's too much hype too early, all of these things were said in turn about Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros, and Crosby before McDavid. Sure, they were also said about plenty who didn't pan out, but sometimes the hype pays off. Only time will tell.

One thing is certain...there will always be a Next One.
 
helicecopter said:
Of all the greats he seems to be the one generating the most hate, and i think at least part of the reason is the hype (warranted) and people going out of the way saying stuff like "he is making others looking like amateurs"
When you read stuff that doesn't match with what you see, it bothers you and you associate the innocent player with that annoyance..
heck, it bothers me even if i'm a fan of his.

As for McDavid, i actually think he is more skilled than Sid, so i think he has a chance to be even better, but to make it actually happen is FAR from easy..
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He could be more talented than Crosby, but Sid is one of the most motivated athletes I've ever seen. I've been pretty critical of Sid being anointed an all-time great when he only plays half seasons, but when he is on (and actually playing), he is as dominant as anyone in the past 20 years.
 
I'll have to see it to believe it. After watching Crosby this year I have a hard time believing anyone will be as good as he is for a long time. I mean, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos and co. are all great, great players that would have dominated in some eras...but Crosby is still head and shoulders above those guys.

It'll be interesting to see what McDavid ends up doing. Too bad he's still almost 3 years worth of time away from playing.
 
helicecopter said:
Of all the greats he seems to be the one generating the most hate, and i think at least part of the reason is the hype (warranted) and people going out of the way saying stuff like "he is making others looking like amateurs"
When you read stuff that doesn't match with what you see, it bothers you and you associate the innocent player with that annoyance..
heck, it bothers me even if i'm a fan of his.

As for McDavid, i actually think he is more skilled than Sid, so i think he has a chance to be even better, but to make it actually happen is FAR from easy..
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That's not why he "seems to be the one generating the most hate." The reason is he's active and they're not. It's a tendency to forget the worst of players after they've been retired.

I can assure you Gretzky generated as much or more hate in markets he didn't play. In some cases, for similar reasons.

If whining to the officials is a thing that bothers someone, for instance, I would not recommend they go back and watch an actual Edmonton game that Gretzky dressed in.

Seemed like no matter what was going on between the whistles, or why the whistle was even blown, he'd be in the referee's ears trying to buy a call. He didn't stop until the actual moment of the puck drop on the next faceoff, either.

He also liked to slash people when they weren't looking then, quite literally, run, which didn't really help his perception out of market.
 
I wonder if there will be another player that will be used to create fake excitement about who will go as number one, like Hedman was used in Tavares draft year.
 
hockey2hockey said:
Connor McDavid is off the charts incredible. Points aside, he has a silky smooth puck control that is incredible to watch. Only time will tell if he can surpass Crosby but he has the potential to be a generation talent.
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This is exactly where I'm at now with McD. McD's speed and willingness to fly into tight spaces is stuff I've never seen from a centre.

We all know it's too early to say if he'll reach Crosby's level, but I do believe that he will based on the bit I've seen.
 
stevecanuck16 said:
To those saying it's too much hype too early, all of these things were said in turn about Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros, and Crosby before McDavid. Sure, they were also said about plenty who didn't pan out, but sometimes the hype pays off. Only time will tell.

One thing is certain...there will always be a Next One.
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I never believed in Lindros when that hype wheel got going. You can only go so far when your act is based on the physical side of the game. McDavid is a different cat. Real skill. Extraordinary skill.

I remember journalists taking great offense when he got 'downgraded to Messier-like' expectations. Lindros was a great player, but not Gretzky or Lemieux. Furthermore, a big part of his advantage -- size -- was cancelled out in just a few years, as everybody started looking for bigger bodies. I wondered if he didn't incite an arms race that way.
 
PensFan101 said:
I love McDavid's game and think he's got franchise player potential at the NHL level, but this is just a blatant excuse to try and sell copies.

McDavid had a fantastic underage season, but to be on Crosby's level, he'll have to get close to this level of dominance at 16:
-CHL First All-Star Team
-CHL Player of the Year
-CHL Rookie of the Year (McDavid did not win, though he was a year younger)
-CHL Top Scorer Award (135)
-QMJHL All-Rookie Team (McDavid completed for OHL at 15)
-QMJHL First All-Star Team
-QMJHL Most Assists (81)
-QMJHL Most Points "Jean Beliveau Trophy" (135) (Crosby won scoring title by 18!!! points)
-QMJHL Most Valuable Player "Michel Brière Trophy"
-QMJHL Offensive Player of the Year
-QMJHL Rookie of the Year (McDavid won for OHL at 15)
-U20 WJC Silver Medal

McDavid is going to have to heat up from his already incredible scoring pace to really reach Crosby's level of dominance.

He's a Tavares/MacKinnon/Stamkos level prospect for sure, but this headline is pure hyperbole. He's not dominating his peers at 16 like Crosby did, even though he's really, really good.
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Not sure I agree on this one. It's like comparing Lemieux to Gretzky in Mario's early years. Rimouski provided far better support. Gretzky had 5 future Hall of Famers skating around him.
 
I think these scouts might be forgetting just how amazing Crosby was at the same age. McDavid is an absolutely outstanding prospect, I have him as the best prospect SINCE Crosby, but I don't have him as a BETTER prospect than Crosby.
 
People hate Crosby because of his antics in the 2008, 2009 finals, the 2012 series against Philly and other series of that nature. His on ice demeanor in extremely unattractive. Ovechkin and Stamkos, other extremely talented, elite players in the league today are more likable than Sid.
 
SCOREacek said:
Not only do I hope he lives up to the hype but I also hope he carries himself with class and shows good sportsmanship unlike Crosby. It would be nice to actually be able to root for and enjoy the best player in the game.
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I have a funny feeling you will find something to dislike in McDavid.
 
leafsfuture said:
So is 45 goals / 77 points in 65 games. Is he as good as Crosby?
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Tavares was 15 the whole season. McDavid was 16 for most of it.

Points don't tell the whole story though.

McDavid is the best prospect since Crosby, but not better than Crosby.
 
GameEight said:
Not sure I agree on this one. It's like comparing Lemieux to Gretzky in Mario's early years. Rimouski provided far better support. Gretzky had 5 future Hall of Famers skating around him.
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??? It looks like Erie this year is better than the 16-year old Crosby Rimouski team.

Anyway, great players put up great numbers regardless of linemates or team. Wayne put up a 163 and a 212 point season without his Hall of Famers playing like Hall of Famers. Mario did it with Rob Brown.
 
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