C Connor McDavid (2015, 1st, EDM) VIII

[Jesus Christ Horburn]

I thought there was no way McDavid (or Eichel) could be PPG players in their rookie seasons. Looks like I was way off.

 

[lawrence]

I thought there was no way McDavid (or Eichel) could be PPG players in their rookie seasons. Looks like I was way off.

If you thought McDavid is not going to be a PPG your going to be surprised.

All the nay sayers well... for McDavid are all going to be in for a huge surprise.

Kids unreal.

 

[lawrence]

He's been so sweet offensively. How's his play away from the puck been? Good so far as a rookie?

he's their best defensive foward among s their top 6. McDavid is a a kid that sees things 4 steps ahead of him, he's the type that can see that too, if the puck is with opponent possesion. He puts himself where there is a good chance he can strip the puck away from players, or force turn overs. Kid's extremely annoying to play against. He's much better then then Nugent Hopkins, Hall, Yakupov defensively. *much* better, he's so good right now, without him, that team is utterly useless. They got 4 1st overalls on their team, none of them are effective, well, now obviously its a different story, that team because of him, is also playing with a swagger.

but yea.

but it's kinda sureal to finally have a player like that in the league, even more happy to see him in our division now, it's always been Washington and Pittsburgh as the big tickets every year, now Edmonton is in our division not because of the team, but the player.

Connor McJesus

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Yep. The combination of McDavid's speed, reach and Datsyukian-like anticipation makes him an extremely effective defensive player. He makes nearly as many impressive defensive plays as he does offensive. Once he gets better on faceoffs, he'll be one of the best defensive forwards in the game. Give him a year or two and he'll be a truly dominant player in all corners of the ice. Wow.

It's funny, because Crosby has a similar offensive anticipation ability to McDavid, but it doesn't seem to translate as much for him defensively. He sort of lumbers around defensively at times. McDavid's anticipation on defense is just as good as it is on offense. He's alway right on top of the play. I'm sure his speed has something to do with that.

It's a joy to watch McDavid play the game. Brings a stupid wide grin to my face. He's going to inject a lot of fun and excitement back into the league.

I think you nailed it right there. The difference between Crosby and McDavid defensively is speed. McDavid can close the gap quicker than Crosby, and from my own experience watching players on my team, that makes a big difference.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Kid is definitely exciting & fun to watch
rarely do you find a player that converts close to 100% of opportunities into a scoring chance
the only challenge that I see happening is that as teams get to understanding is playing style (plays more of a "opportunistic" making the most of his break out chance)...they will catch one very quickly to shut him down

his below the line battles have not been effective...seems to want to play up high and in between the 2 blue lines for a defensive play or break out play

He'll adjust.

 

[Aceboogie]

I think you nailed it right there. The difference between Crosby and McDavid defensively is speed. McDavid can close the gap quicker than Crosby, and from my own experience watching players on my team, that makes a big difference.

It is. Can can make smart reads defensivily but he has the speed to get there and close the gap. Hes made a couple players look silly this year because they thought they had time with the puck, but within a fraction of a second Mcdavid is right infront of them and the puck is stripped

Even when he makes the wrong reads, he has speed to recover

 

[Aceboogie]

he's their best defensive foward among s their top 6. McDavid is a a kid that sees things 4 steps ahead of him, he's the type that can see that too, if the puck is with opponent possesion. He puts himself where there is a good chance he can strip the puck away from players, or force turn overs. Kid's extremely annoying to play against. He's much better then then Nugent Hopkins, Hall, Yakupov defensively. *much* better, he's so good right now, without him, that team is utterly useless. They got 4 1st overalls on their team, none of them are effective, well, now obviously its a different story, that team because of him, is also playing with a swagger.

but yea.

but it's kinda sureal to finally have a player like that in the league, even more happy to see him in our division now, it's always been Washington and Pittsburgh as the big tickets every year, now Edmonton is in our division not because of the team, but the player.

Connor McJesus

RNH is still better defensively, positionally anyway. And just slightly not as good at stripping pucks. RNH has came into his own in that regard

 

[lawrence]

RNH is still better defensively, positionally anyway. And just slightly not as good at stripping pucks. RNH has came into his own in that regard

RNH was always a good 2 way player, but that's just me, if you follow the Oilers full time, I wouldn't want to really argue, but that's just in a rival teams stand point. We never found RNH intimating or anything. He is a good all around player. Last time they played the Canucks I noticed it was much more difficult when McDavid was on the ice, mainly because he times it almost perfectly that he can either strip the puck away from you or just cause some turnover. Luckily Vancouvers defence (although not the roughest or physical) they do have very fast puck moving dmans.

anyways, I think without Connor the OIlers were destined for another lottery pick. seriously. They are really nothing without him, wow, I think if the OIlers make the playoffs, he should win the leagues most valuable player.

 

[Aceboogie]

RNH was always a good 2 way player, but that's just me, if you follow the Oilers full time, I wouldn't want to really argue, but that's just in a rival teams stand point. We never found RNH intimating or anything. He is a good all around player. Last time they played the Canucks I noticed it was much more difficult when McDavid was on the ice, mainly because he times it almost perfectly that he can either strip the puck away from you or just cause some turnover. Luckily Vancouvers defence (although not the roughest or physical) they do have very fast puck moving dmans.

anyways, I think without Connor the OIlers were destined for another lottery pick. seriously. They are really nothing without him, wow, I think if the OIlers make the playoffs, he should win the leagues most valuable player.

Thats 1 game tho, RNH last year was handiling #1 lines and doing really good defensively, so Ill need to see McDavid do that before calling them equal

Oilers arent out of the woods yet with McDavid. They still have a ways to go. Defensively they still have holes and goaltending wise they are getting good performances thus far, but both guys are unproven over 40 or so games

 

[teravaineSAROS]

he's their best defensive foward among s their top 6. McDavid is a a kid that sees things 4 steps ahead of him, he's the type that can see that too, if the puck is with opponent possesion. He puts himself where there is a good chance he can strip the puck away from players, or force turn overs. Kid's extremely annoying to play against. He's much better then then Nugent Hopkins, Hall, Yakupov defensively. *much* better, he's so good right now, without him, that team is utterly useless. They got 4 1st overalls on their team, none of them are effective, well, now obviously its a different story, that team because of him, is also playing with a swagger.

but yea.

but it's kinda sureal to finally have a player like that in the league, even more happy to see him in our division now, it's always been Washington and Pittsburgh as the big tickets every year, now Edmonton is in our division not because of the team, but the player.

Connor McJesus

This is what I hate about Hfboards. How fast a player can go from being an overrated bust into an underrated god. Even worse when you look at threads with less predictable prospects who fluctuate, they go back and forth between bust and god based on their last 1-3 games

 

[Jagemon]

I thought there was no way McDavid (or Eichel) could be PPG players in their rookie seasons. Looks like I was way off.

Being PPG pace through 7 (?) games is not a stretch. I mean it is nice but lets not kid ourselves to think it will last for 82 games (I guess it could, but doubt it).

 

[Halfy]

This is what I hate about Hfboards. How fast a player can go from being an overrated bust into an underrated god. Even worse when you look at threads with less predictable prospects who fluctuate, they go back and forth between bust and god based on their last 1-3 games

REALLY? I think McDavid has always been treated as a "god" around here as you call it. The only people who thought he was a "overrated bust" are the McDavid haters. (The McBUSTvid guys). For other prospects you make a good point. They do fluctuate like crazy. McDavid and Eichel are special cases. Both have had the overwhelming "god-like" treatment (which is deserved).

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Didn't take long for Mcdavid to be at a PPG pace at the NHL level.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

REALLY? I think McDavid has always been treated as a "god" around here as you call it. The only people who thought he was a "overrated bust" are the McDavid haters. (The McBUSTvid guys). For other prospects you make a good point. They do fluctuate like crazy. McDavid and Eichel are special cases. Both have had the overwhelming "god-like" treatment (which is deserved).

Yea you're right I guess McDavid and Eichel have been exceptions

 

[Juxta Position]

Being PPG pace through 7 (?) games is not a stretch. I mean it is nice but lets not kid ourselves to think it will last for 82 games (I guess it could, but doubt it).

Not usually, but when your an 18 year old rookie playing your first ever NHL games and being at a ppg pace, that is impressive. He's a special talent and i wouldn't bet against him holding that pace over a full season.

 

[lawrence]

Being PPG pace through 7 (?) games is not a stretch. I mean it is nice but lets not kid ourselves to think it will last for 82 games (I guess it could, but doubt it).

to be honest, you don't see this very often, for a 18 year old to pull this off, if there is going to be a 18/19 year old rookie that will pull off point per game as a rookie right out of junior , as a betting man, I will bet Connor McDavid. If you ask me again, when the next generational player arrives.

Kids carrying the OIlers on his back right now. even sometimes he gets benched, guy generates offense like not tomorrow.

Sidney Crosby was the last player to do this, Lets see if Connor can keep it up.

 

[NewBoysClub97*]

That one poster is really selling some of our other players short, but yeah, McDavid IS the real deal. He's at a PPG and pretty good defensively after getting off to a slow start the first 4 games where he looked very timid.

Ryan Nugent Hopkins was almost at a PPG when he got injured his rookie year. I think he had something like 58 in 62? Can't remember.

 

[admire]

This rookie class is just unreal.....

 

[Smartguy]

If you thought McDavid is not going to be a PPG your going to be surprised.

All the nay sayers well... for McDavid are all going to be in for a huge surprise.

Kids unreal.

I was one of the few who didn't buy all the way into the hype as usually it takes rookies awhile to adjust and the pressure on him was outstanding, but have to say he has been unreal these last few games when he gained confidence and he's made yak look like the number 1 overall pick they drafted back then. Small sample size so far I know but definitely impressive

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Anyone else think his skating, and puck control at speed remind them of Bure? Both have sublime top speed, acceleration, and edge work. Seem too electrify the fans with end to end rushes/breakaways multiple times each game. McDavid just looks to pass more, and Bure looked to score.

prime McDavid 40G, 60A, Bure 60G, 40A

just wondering.

 

[Oneiro]

Bure never had the vision that McD has.

A real joy to watch this kid play.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Bure never had the vision that McD has.

A real joy to watch this kid play.

I was talking skating, and I did say they had different focuses offensively.

 

[Yung Rotini]

That one poster is really selling some of our other players short, but yeah, McDavid IS the real deal. He's at a PPG and pretty good defensively after getting off to a slow start the first 4 games where he looked very timid.

Ryan Nugent Hopkins was almost at a PPG when he got injured his rookie year. I think he had something like 58 in 62? Can't remember.

52 in 62.

 

[McRpro]

52 in 62.

That was his final stat-line. When he got hurt in January he had 35 points in 38 games.

 

[Yung Rotini]

That was his final stat-line. When he got hurt in January he had 35 points in 38 games.

Okay?