C Connor Bedard - Regina Pats, WHL (2023 Draft) Part 5

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Feel like Bedard could very likely end up in a worse spot offensively than those 2.

Crosby's team sucked when he came in, but he still had some good offensive players like Gonchar, Recchi, Palffy, Leclair, Whitney...and some Mario Lemieux guy for part of the year.

McDavid had Taylor Hall, Draisaitl, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins.

If Bedard ends up on Chicago, he'll have pretty much nobody. So it'll be situation dependant I think how you measure his first year. If Bedard lands on Chicago and they trade Kane and make no other changes to the roster, then 80 points would be a good accomplishment because it'll be a one man show. If he goes to a deeper team like let's say Vancouver. Then you can probably bump the expectation up to 90-100 points.

Really depends on the team he lands on, if there's a fairy tale ending and he goes to his hometown/favourite team in the Canucks, he's going to have a lot of weapons around him.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Feel like Bedard could very likely end up in a worse spot offensively than those 2.

Crosby's team sucked when he came in, but he still had some good offensive players like Gonchar, Recchi, Palffy, Leclair, Whitney...and some Mario Lemieux guy for part of the year.

McDavid had Taylor Hall, Draisaitl, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins.

If Bedard ends up on Chicago, he'll have pretty much nobody. So it'll be situation dependant I think how you measure his first year. If Bedard lands on Chicago and they trade Kane and make no other changes to the roster, then 80 points would be a good accomplishment because it'll be a one man show. If he goes to a deeper team like let's say Vancouver. Then you can probably bump the expectation up to 90-100 points.

Those are pretty lofty expectations. 80-100 points in a rookie year seems like a lot. I know the league in general is very high scoring now, but Bedard doesn’t even turn 18 until July.

I think 30g-30a would be a phenomenal rookie season for him. Matthews had 40 goals his rookie year but was basically a full year older and is also huge.

 

[DeletedUser539]

Those are pretty lofty expectations. 80-100 points in a rookie year seems like a lot. I know the league in general is very high scoring now, but Bedard doesn’t even turn 18 until July.

I think 30g-30a would be a phenomenal rookie season for him. Matthews had 40 goals his rookie year but was basically a full year older and is also huge.

Bedard is a much better playmaker at the same age though wouldn't be surprised if he hits between 35-40 with 45+ assists maybe hits 90 at absolute top end 100 points seems unreasonable in his rookie campaign but not in his sophomore year I think his low end would be 50 and average would be 60-70 with 80-90 being high end all things go right

 

[Donuts]

bedard to canucks wow

 

[ViD]

bedard to canucks wow

And then you woke up

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

And then you woke up

You don't know that, maybe the poster was working towards some clarity per se.

 

[Just Linda]

There might be a day where WHL teams realize they should rush the f*** back when Bedard is on the ice following a turnover, but until then he'll keep getting breakaway gimmies.

To be fair to the dmen, most teams wouldn't let their forward be in the positions Bedard is in. There's a reason Bedard is in the spot to get those breakaways as frequently as he does.

 

[Mr Buckles]

 

[Gold Standard]

any predictions yet on Regina's 1st. rd. playoff dance partner? (if they make it) Winnipeg or RD?

I think Bedard will get to play 5 or 6 playoff games and then will finish the season with Team Canada at the WHC. at least that's my hope.

 

[CBJx614]

Feel like Bedard could very likely end up in a worse spot offensively than those 2.

Crosby's team sucked when he came in, but he still had some good offensive players like Gonchar, Recchi, Palffy, Leclair, Whitney...and some Mario Lemieux guy for part of the year.

McDavid had Taylor Hall, Draisaitl, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins.

If Bedard ends up on Chicago, he'll have pretty much nobody. So it'll be situation dependant I think how you measure his first year. If Bedard lands on Chicago and they trade Kane and make no other changes to the roster, then 80 points would be a good accomplishment because it'll be a one man show. If he goes to a deeper team like let's say Vancouver. Then you can probably bump the expectation up to 90-100 points.

If he comes to Columbus he's centering Johnny Gaudreau and Patrik Laine

 

[DeletedUser539]

If he comes to Columbus he's centering Johnny Gaudreau and Patrik Laine

That would be filthy but honestly for almost every rookie player, softer matchups to start to slowly break in and adjust before tougher matchups , if cbj gets him they should target horvat to center that top line letting bedard get comfortable in the league.

 

[CBJx614]

That would be filthy but honestly for almost every rookie player, softer matchups to start to slowly break in and adjust before tougher matchups , if cbj gets him they should target horvat to center that top line letting bedard get comfortable in the league.

Oh I agree, but that requires a lot of stars to align.

 

[MicronMega]

This kid is filthy!!! Please don't let him end up in Columbus or Arizona!!! Bedard playing in a college rink would be a shame!

Bedard and Zegras in Anaheim would be pretty cool or in Chicago with Kane.

 

[BB88]

This kid is filthy!!! Please don't let him end up in Columbus or Arizona!!! Bedard playing in a college rink would be a shame!

Bedard and Zegras in Anaheim would be pretty cool or in Chicago with Kane.

Gaudreau/Laine/Bedard/Johnson would bring fans on the seats

 

[Love]

Why do people keep mentioning Gaudreau and Laine as if playing with them is some sort of incredible opportunity? We’re talking about a 75 point winger and a 60 point winger. Basically every team could offer the same thing.

 

[Akrapovince]

Oh I agree, but that requires a lot of stars to align.

Such a perfect line.

Johnny can dish like no other.

Laine can shoot rockets off his stick.

Bedard is a dual threat that will keep defensive structures guessing.

He brings out the best out of the two players that are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

I love that line on paper.

 

[3074326]

PP of

Gaudreau - Bedard - Laine
Werenski - Boqvist

That's a lot of offense.

 

[DeletedUser539]

Oh I agree, but that requires a lot of stars to align.

Very true CBJ would be the most intriguing spot though for bedard imo so many up and coming pieces for them with a nice mix of some vets with skill who are still somewhat young

 

[CBJx614]

Such a perfect line.

Johnny can dish like no other.

Laine can shoot rockets off his stick.

Bedard is a dual threat that will keep defensive structures guessing.

He brings out the best out of the two players that are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

I love that line on paper.

Another aspect in this is KJ. Johnson and Bedard are on the same roller team in the summer and already have chemistry together.

PP of

Gaudreau - Bedard - Laine
Werenski - Boqvist

That's a lot of offense.

Replace Boqvist with Jiricek. And honestly, Jiricek should run the 1st PP if he transitions properly. And Jenner likely would be a net front presence on the first.

Second PP

Marchenko - Johnson - Texier(hopefully)
Chinakov - Werenski

Very true CBJ would be the most intriguing spot though for bedard imo so many up and coming pieces for them with a nice mix of some vets with skill who are still somewhat young

He's the perfect cherry on top for the retool, gives us a dynamic difference maker in every position except at goal(Tarasov has some potential though)

 

[ViD]

Why do people keep mentioning Gaudreau and Laine as if playing with them is some sort of incredible opportunity? We’re talking about a 75 point winger and a 60 point winger. Basically every team could offer the same thing.

Did you miss the part when Gaudreau scored 115 with adequate line mates ?

 

[Love]

Did you miss the part when Gaudreau scored 115 with adequate line mates ?

Did you miss the part where Gaudreau is a 75 point winger outside of an extreme outlier season? Looks like he’s regressed back to his normal production this year.

In fact, in the two years prior to last season, Gaudreau averaged 24 goals and 69 points per 82. Then exploded in his contract year.

 

[CanadienShark]

Why do people keep mentioning Gaudreau and Laine as if playing with them is some sort of incredible opportunity? We’re talking about a 75 point winger and a 60 point winger. Basically every team could offer the same thing.

Gaudreau is pacing for 77 points. And he's put up 100+ last year and 99 points another time. Over point per game in his career. Don't be ridiculous.

 

[KaraLupin]

Why do people keep mentioning Gaudreau and Laine as if playing with them is some sort of incredible opportunity? We’re talking about a 75 point winger and a 60 point winger. Basically every team could offer the same thing.

Well let's see. P Kane traded, what's in Chicago? Ducks could ice McTavish/Terry beside him, that's decent in theory. Arizona has nothing but Schmaltz. I think out of the 4 "clearly in the running" teams, CBJ and Ducks offer the most offensive support.

 

[CBJx614]

Did you miss the part where Gaudreau is a 75 point winger outside of an extreme outlier season? Looks like he’s regressed back to his normal production this year.

In fact, in the two years prior to last season, Gaudreau averaged 24 goals and 69 points per 82. Then exploded in his contract year.

He's playing on a team that's the youngest roster in the league as well as one of the most injury riddled rosters in the league. This team had no depth to begin with and now it's been ravaged with injuries. And he's still hovering around a PPG.

 

[majormajor]

Did you miss the part where Gaudreau is a 75 point winger outside of an extreme outlier season? Looks like he’s regressed back to his normal production this year.

In fact, in the two years prior to last season, Gaudreau averaged 24 goals and 69 points per 82. Then exploded in his contract year.

Gaudreau just scored the most even strength points in the NHL in the last 25 years. Go sit in shame.