C Connor Bedard (2023, 1st, CHI) Part 6

[wetcoast]

I too have a feeling he will improve the faucets at SAP Arena extremely quickly if drafted by us. Maintenance staff at SAP Arena probably thinking, we got the next superstar, gotta get the best new faucets for him, nothing less.

To be fair that is a very fine faucet.

but why do they always place it so close to the back of the sink and make it hard for guys with large hands or even average hands?

Until this question is answered I'm not sure where to place Bedard yet............

 

[WarriorofTime]

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[wetcoast]

Just as I predicted. Bedard doing Bedard things.

Game 7 it is. He can become a junior legend with one more game like that - that results in a team W. Doesn't really matter what happens in the 2nd, rd. after that. Pats could get swept in 4 and Bedard could put up donuts - doesn't matter. Legend.

On to the pro game with one Team Canada WHC stop in between in May. Just so I can kick off BBQ season the right way.

He already is a junior legend, other hotshot prospects like Misa are going to be compared to Bedard ad nuaseam next season and beyond.

 

[Love]

What is best way to watch game 7 with a (perfectly legal) VPN that lets me appear as in Canada?

Proton VPN is free and safe. However I’m Canadian so the free options don’t include Canada but it might be included since you’re in the states. It’s also very easy to use.

 

[WarriorofTime]

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[WarriorofTime]

Regina is really early in a rebuild. They have some great pieces to build around (Howe), they'll be fine.

They werent one or two players away from being contenders, it was better for them to be patient and build a team. If anything, they should've sold Svozil.

They'll be a really good team in 2 years though.

How is a team that has Bedard for 3 years (well technically) "really early in a rebuild" in a League where players can only play 4 seasons? It's wild how bad of a job they have done from the starting block of a generational talent. They didn't even make the Playoffs the prior season and had a shitty record in the very abridged COVID season. Being bad 5 seasons in a row is hard for Junior Hockey which has a draft and trades, and the limited eligibility means teams that are bad have incentive to off-load their 19 year olds for futures.

Just a crappy organization. They should have done Bedard right and moved him to a Contender, probably more concerned with protecting their ticket sales.

 

[Just Linda]

How is a team that has Bedard for 3 years (well technically) "really early in a rebuild" in a League where players can only play 4 seasons? It's wild how bad of a job they have done from the starting block of a generational talent. They didn't even make the Playoffs the prior season and had a shitty record in the very abridged COVID season. Being bad 5 seasons in a row is hard for Junior Hockey which has a draft and trades, and the limited eligibility means teams that are bad have incentive to off-load their 19 year olds for futures.

Just a crappy organization. They should have done Bedard right and moved him to a Contender, probably more concerned with protecting their ticket sales.

You can't trade a 17 year old without their permission, he wanted to play in Regina and would've blocked a trade.

I believe they traded away 2019 picks in the Sam Steele years so their rebuild only really got started in 2020. So that makes this year 3 of a rebuild, one that got derailed by getting too good of a player too soon and Paddock missing like half a year by almost dying.

Meanwhile they have a good foundation of young players and Howe is a player worth building around in the dub.

I'm not saying it's a good rebuild but it's not as awful as people make it seem. Regina isn't a player or two away, loading up with Bedard just wasn't possible without completely destroying the future. And Regina can't afford another half decade of having a bad team either.

What is best way to watch game 7 with a (perfectly legal) VPN that lets me appear as in Canada?

Check your messages.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Check your messages.

Thanks!

 

[Dust]

How is a team that has Bedard for 3 years (well technically) "really early in a rebuild" in a League where players can only play 4 seasons? It's wild how bad of a job they have done from the starting block of a generational talent. They didn't even make the Playoffs the prior season and had a shitty record in the very abridged COVID season. Being bad 5 seasons in a row is hard for Junior Hockey which has a draft and trades, and the limited eligibility means teams that are bad have incentive to off-load their 19 year olds for futures.

Just a crappy organization. They should have done Bedard right and moved him to a Contender, probably more concerned with protecting their ticket sales.

They had one of the top teams in the CHL in 2016-2017, and hosted the Memorial Cup the following year, so they traded away most of their young players and draft picks for several years afterwards for those 2 runs.

To simply say it's a "Crappy organization" is to make a statement you know absolutely nothing about.

I certainly have a beef with how ownership has handled the season ticket packages and ticket prices this season, but Regina is a well run junior organization as a whole despite that. They kind of fluked into Bedard during their rebuilding years.

 

[WarriorofTime]

They had one of the top teams in the CHL in 2016-2017, and hosted the Memorial Cup the following year, so they traded away most of their young players and draft picks for several years afterwards for those 2 runs.

To simply say it's a "Crappy organization" is to make a statement you know absolutely nothing about.

I certainly have a beef with how ownership has handled the season ticket packages and ticket prices this season, but Regina is a well run junior organization as a whole despite that. They kind of fluked into Bedard during their rebuilding years.

2017 was six years ago... players are only in Major Juniors for four years. They tanked to get Bedard, and have had three years to build around. It is pure organizational incompetence to have a generational talent and not be able to do a squat. Being terrible for five straight seasons is embarrassing in general, with Bedard it's downright negligent.

 

[independent observer]

How is a team that has Bedard for 3 years (well technically) "really early in a rebuild" in a League where players can only play 4 seasons? It's wild how bad of a job they have done from the starting block of a generational talent. They didn't even make the Playoffs the prior season and had a shitty record in the very abridged COVID season. Being bad 5 seasons in a row is hard for Junior Hockey which has a draft and trades, and the limited eligibility means teams that are bad have incentive to off-load their 19 year olds for futures.

Just a crappy organization. They should have done Bedard right and moved him to a Contender, probably more concerned with protecting their ticket sales.

Agreed.

But also shows he has great character… other talents pushed for exits in similar situation.

At least he has decent talent on his line. Svozil and Suzdalev are both elite in jr level. But of course overall very poor roster construction as one line doesn‘t win anything… unless bedard is involved… game 7 we will learn more.

I am very curious how his talent will translate to the nhl because on jr level what he delivers is unseen… as a prospect he is markedly ahead of mcd but mcdavid was raw and really sharpened many things since he is at the nhl level. More size, improved his shoot like crazy, improved at the faceoff, defense awareness, when to use his speed more to his advantage, etc…

I think actually bedard will start with a bang, but I am not sure about his ceiling… but i guess anything is possible with him if he avoid major injuries.

 

[Dust]

2017 was six years ago... players are only in Major Juniors for four years. They tanked to get Bedard, and have had three years to build around. It is pure organizational incompetence to have a generational talent and not be able to do a squat. Being terrible for five straight seasons is embarrassing in general, with Bedard it's downright negligent.

They didn't "tank" to get Bedard, as it wasn't even their own draft pick that ended up getting him. They traded away Leschyshyn and Henry in 2018 to Lethbridge, and ended up with Swift Current's 1st round pick in the deal. Swift Current ended up being the team that got the 1st overall pick in the draft.

 

[WarriorofTime]

They didn't "tank" to get Bedard, as it wasn't even their own draft pick that ended up getting him. They traded away Leschyshyn and Henry in 2018 to Lethbridge, and ended up with Swift Current's 1st round pick in the deal. Swift Current ended up being the team that got the 1st overall pick in the draft.

If you’re ok with this result with a once a century WHL player, then by all means.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Like whatever the reasons that they are bad....it shouldn't matter. They will likely never have a talent like Bedard come through the organization again. They had their shot and fumbled. There is really no other way of looking at it. I mean I doubt they are even setup to be a contender next year. They have Howe but are losing their two best players after this season. Sometimes organizations fail at rebuilds. They failed on this one. It just so happens they failed with Connor Bedard which makes it that much worse.

 

[FDBluth]

Agreed.

But also shows he has great character… other talents pushed for exits in similar situation.

At least he has decent talent on his line. Svozil and Suzdalev are both elite in jr level. But of course overall very poor roster construction as one line doesn‘t win anything… unless bedard is involved… game 7 we will learn more.

I am very curious how his talent will translate to the nhl because on jr level what he delivers is unseen… as a prospect he is markedly ahead of mcd but mcdavid was raw and really sharpened many things since he is at the nhl level. More size, improved his shoot like crazy, improved at the faceoff, defense awareness, when to use his speed more to his advantage, etc…

I think actually bedard will start with a bang, but I am not sure about his ceiling… but i guess anything is possible with him if he avoid major injuries.

I'm really excited to see what he can do at the next level, because other than his shot, which is absolutely otherwordly, all other parts of his game seem quite intangible. It's always shocking to me how easily he stickhandles through defenders and creates lanes for himself and others when he's not moving terribly fast. Now here he is again putting up insane numbers in the playoffs with 3 PPG and 2 GPG. I can't think of another high level player since Mario and Gretzky where you look at their stats they look fake like this. And Bedard's done this repeatedly in different settings.

There's a decent chance that things change at the next level and become much more difficult for him, but also a chance ((hopefully) that he can do the same thing in the NHL too and become a true GOAT.

 

[Dust]

If you’re ok with this result with a once a century WHL player, then by all means.

That's simply not how junior hockey works. There's a cyclical nature to things, and there simply was not enough time for Regina to build itself back up to be able to put a decent team around Bedard in that short of time. The very top tier CHL organizations that are able to get convince some NCAA bound players to commit and get top import players to report might be able to reduce the downtime, but it's not a common thing.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

That's simply not how junior hockey works. There's a cyclical nature to things, and there simply was not enough time for Regina to build itself back up to be able to put a decent team around Bedard in that short of time. The very top tier CHL organizations that are able to get convince some NCAA bound players to commit and get top import players to report might be able to reduce the downtime, but it's not a common thing.

Halifax hosted the memorial cup in 2019. They finished this season as the #2 team in the regular season and are on a legit run to make it back to the memorial cup this season. 4 years is a typical rebuild cycle with a well run organization in junior hockey. If you are 5+ years in and still bad/average you have went wrong somewhere and are at risk of having to start it all over again because the original kids you started that rebuild with are aging out.

 

[Dust]

Halifax hosted the memorial cup in 2019. They finished this season as the #2 team in the regular season and are on a legit run to make it back to the memorial cup this season. 4 years is a typical rebuild cycle with a well run organization in junior hockey. If you are 5+ years in and still bad/average you have went wrong somewhere and are at risk of having to start it all over again because the original kids you started that rebuild with are aging out.

It depends on the market to a degree. I don't think Regina is up there among the best in the CHL as an organization, but it's also not a very desirable location for college kids or import players compared to places like Halifax, London, Seattle, Kelowna or Edmonton.

 

[WarriorofTime]

That's simply not how junior hockey works. There's a cyclical nature to things, and there simply was not enough time for Regina to build itself back up to be able to put a decent team around Bedard in that short of time. The very top tier CHL organizations that are able to get convince some NCAA bound players to commit and get top import players to report might be able to reduce the downtime, but it's not a common thing.

All of the players age out after four years. This should be the apex of the cycle for Regina. They dropped the ball.

 

[Dust]

All of the players age out after four years. This should be the apex of the cycle for Regina. They dropped the ball.

The Bantam draft is for players turning 15, and players age out at 20 (with your 3 20 year old exceptions). There is far more that goes into a CHL team than a 4 year span. You can go with your hot take, or you can try to be a little more open minded about the process and learn something.

 

[Just Linda]

This is the Blades I was expecting this series. Took em seven games

 

[Fraser28]

This is the Blades I was expecting this series. Took em seven games

You are comfortable making that statement 15 minutes into the game?

 

[ryan callahan]

You are comfortable making that statement 15 minutes into the game?

Bedard now defo getting 4+ pts tonight with this splendid jinx.

 

[Just Linda]

You are comfortable making that statement 15 minutes into the game?

Yes. Of course. If they shit the bed for the final 2, doesn't mean they didn't play good for the first one.

Blades have been far too passive this series and it didn't cost them. It'd have been a short series had they played up to their potential, I've been expecting what I saw from the first and can't figure out why they didn't play like this all series (taking the body, etc).

That being said, Bedard still got a nice chance. Blades finally stopped treating him like someone they can defend and actually started to smother him and keeping possession in the far zone when he's on the ice.

I'm not calling anything, just stating what's happening.

 

[WarriorofTime]

One more period for Bedard to make something happen. Regina down 1-0