C Connor Bedard (2023, 1st, CHI) Part 6

[WF19]

I'm gonna be investing in collecting his cards.

 

[Bounces R Way]

8 goals and 13pts in three playoff games and 2 periods

 

[red devil]

 

[EdJovanovski]

Better than McDavid

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Just incredible

 

[FDBluth]

wtf how does he score every single goal??

 

[blfr]

Regina is awful when Bedard isn't on the ice.

 

[authentic]

Bedard is better at everything other than skating, when compared to McDavid in their respective draft years. Bedard is getting underrated by some in here. Definitely above the Matthews tier prospect.

This is what I said two months ago and was laughed at. He is the best pre-NHL player since Lemieux. I don't think that means necessarily he will reach the peak McDavid has in the NHL but just straight up comparing them at the same age Bedard is better.

 

[stevo61]

Interesting way to defend Bedard, just rip his helmet off

 

[crosbyshow]

This is what I said two months ago and was laughed at. He is the best pre-NHL player since Lemieux. I don't think that means necessarily he will reach the peak McDavid has in the NHL but just straight up comparing them at the same age Bedard is better.

I had Crosby better at 16...but at 17 they are very equal.

Crosby was a beast.

..and the fact that he did 102 points at 18 in the Nhl.and.won the hart at 19..means a lot...

..Bedard is just unbelievable as well

 

[EdJovanovski]

This is what I said two months ago and was laughed at. He is the best pre-NHL player since Lemieux. I don't think that means necessarily he will reach the peak McDavid has in the NHL but just straight up comparing them at the same age Bedard is better.

I feel like barely anybody is aware of the fact that he had the more productive junior career than McDavid, I don't see this stat being mentioned anywhere and feel like I'm crazy for thinking he's better than McDavid

CHL Career
McDavid 1.72 P/GP
Bedard 2.02 P/GP
WJC Career
McDavid 1.38 P/GP
Bedard 2.08 P/GP

 

[bambamcam4ever]

This is what I said two months ago and was laughed at. He is the best pre-NHL player since Lemieux. I don't think that means necessarily he will reach the peak McDavid has in the NHL but just straight up comparing them at the same age Bedard is better.

What happened to Crosby in this alternate universe of yours?

 

[FDBluth]

I feel like barely anybody is aware of the fact that he had the more productive junior career than McDavid, I don't see this stat being mentioned anywhere and feel like I'm crazy for thinking he's better than McDavid

CHL Career
McDavid 1.72 P/GP
Bedard 2.02 P/GP
WJC Career
McDavid 1.38 P/GP
Bedard 2.08 P/GP

One thing I'll say about Bedard is that he has more "wtf" statistical moments than McDavid did in juniors. The 28 points in 15 games as a 15-year-old, 23 points in 7 games at the world juniors, and 71 goals in 57 games this year.

And he's probably the first high level prospect since Gretzky who doesn't really jump out at you when he's just skating down the ice with the puck, but then he'll just kill you with devastating offensive plays over and over again.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Fine I’ll be the one who takes the hate for saying it. For everyone saying “McDavid had the incredible skating that made him so much more projectable as a generational player”, Bedard’s goal scoring instincts in combination with his shot is just as projectable. He may not be the player who looks as dominant because McDavid’s speed sticks out every second he’s on the ice, but he has the potential to be just as dominant on how he effects every game he plays if he achieves his ceiling (McDavid ostentatiously may have exceeded his projected ceiling as a prospect).

Also can we stop comparing Bedard’s point pace to other players to find comparables? Bedard is first and foremost a goal scorer, a role that’s very well known to have lower point totals but higher goal totals, even if Bedard’s playmaking is also incredible. Nobody talks about where Ovechkin sits amongst the all time greats because of his point pace.

 

[authentic]

What happened to Crosby in this alternate universe of yours?

He's better than Crosby was at the same age. Crosby was better at 16 though.

 

[crosbyshow]

He's better than Crosby was at the same age. Crosby was better at 16 though.

Tough to say now at 17..I have them equal

... Crosby did 102 points in the NHL at 18 and 39 goals.

Bedard has a tough challenge next year

 

[FDBluth]

Fine I’ll be the one who takes the hate for saying it. For everyone saying “McDavid had the incredible skating that made him so much more projectable as a generational player”, Bedard’s goal scoring instincts in combination with his shot is just as projectable. He may not be the player who looks as dominant because McDavid’s speed sticks out every second he’s on the ice, but he has the potential to be just as dominant on how he effects every game he plays if he achieves his ceiling (McDavid ostentatiously may have exceeded his projected ceiling as a prospect).

Also can we stop comparing Bedard’s point pace to other players to find comparables? Bedard is first and foremost a goal scorer, a role that’s very well known to have lower point totals but higher goal totals, even if Bedard’s playmaking is also incredible. Nobody talks about where Ovechkin sits amongst the all time greats because of his point pace.

Yeah, I think the unique thing with him is that he has goalscoring/shoot-first instincts with incredible goalscoring tools but approaches the game like an elite playmaker. Super rare combination. So his projection could really go anywhere imo.

 

[Blue and Green]

2 games apiece.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Regina's done. When games go deep, you can tell who is the better team.

 

[EdJovanovski]

One thing I'll say about Bedard is that he has more "wtf" statistical moments than McDavid did in juniors. The 28 points in 15 games as a 15-year-old, 23 points in 7 games at the world juniors, and 71 goals in 57 games this year.

And he's probably the first high level prospect since Gretzky who doesn't really jump out at you when he's just skating down the ice with the puck, but then he'll just kill you with devastating offensive plays over and over again.

Also seems to rise to the occasion in big games and put up insane numbers in playoffs/intl tournaments

 

[authentic]

Tough to say now at 17..I have them equal

... Crosby did 102 points in the NHL at 18 and 39 goals.

Bedard has a tough challenge next year

Yep it should be a close one for sure. I'm just stating my opinion based on what I see with my own eyes more than anything. I think that shot just sets him apart a bit.

 

[Siludin]

Bedard just wants long series so he can inflate his totals

 

[Yepthatsme]

Yeah, I think the unique thing with him is that he has goalscoring/shoot-first instincts with incredible goalscoring tools but approaches the game like an elite playmaker. Super rare combination. So his projection could really go anywhere imo.

If he reaches his ceiling he is going to be scary to defend against. Players and teams can’t over commit to him to prevent shooting opportunities or else his play making will punish them, which in turn will create more shooting opportunities. For instance, when Ovechkin or Matthews gets the puck from inside the circles, everyone in the rink knows that’s going on net yet they find ways to score anyways. Bedard has the potential to keep teams guessing, while also possessing top of the league shooting talent. That rare mix is just as projectable as being generational as previous greats.

 

[Aaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Personal opinion having watched him live on a number of occasions...he does not have McDavid's upside, but he is a much different player than McDavid anyway. He's an opportunist with a lethal release. He is going to struggle a bit in the NHL because of his size and he won't have the space he has in the dub. He doesn't create space, he finds holes. That's different from McDavid. I still think he will be a franchise player, but I don't see him getting 150 points in the NHL unless he is with elite wingers, which is unlikely for several years.

 

[ffsffs1]

I don't understand why people are bearish on Bedard's ability to excel in the NHL where there's less space. One of the things I'm always amazed by is his ability to create offense (both for himself and for others) while being hounded by defenders.