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C Caleb Desnoyers - Moncton Wildcats, QMJHL (2025 Draft)

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Fixed to Ruin said:
Collects another 3 points today.

Now 5th in QMJHL scoring.
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And scoring isn't even the most impressive part of his game.

It's Desnoyers' all-around potential that tantalizes scouts and amateurs like me, his high-level work ethic/"pro attitude", and how he produces all that offense whilst not "cheating" defensively in the slightest.

I genuinely think that with good, positive development, Desnoyers could end up being a high-end matchup center with strong scoring abilities.

Which, to me, is a VERY important piece to grab for a team. Moreso considering that Desnoyers' floor is so high (besides injury) and that if he fails to develop much at all he'll still end up playing many NHL games as a third/fourth-line center, which is still an important part of a team's makeup.

While Desnoyers might not have "superstar potential" like some prospects in this year's draft, the fact that he could be a Sean Couturier type of player (only an example) for a team means that he should be drafted quite high in the draft, much more highly than open-source scouting services like Eliteprospects seem to think (their latest ranking puts him in the 15th spot).

If not, I'd be more than happy for my favorite team, the Canadiens, to draft someone like Desnoyers or Frondell in the teens at the draft. I kid, I wouldn't just "be more than happy"; I'd be freaking ecstatic if that happened.

I've already said it elsewhere, but I'd have Desnoyers 5th on my personal list right now and Frondell 6th (lower because of injuries despite IMO slightly-superior tools).

To better substantiate my point, I'd say that the trio of Desnoyers, Frondell, and Jackson Smith are the "consolation prizes" for teams that don't manage to draft top-4 this year.

Oh, and what I do see of this draft class does not at all correlate to the "weak draft past the top-4" general opinion that has made its way through HfBoards and some of the scouts.

I see tons of talent after the top-4, and personally think this draft will ultimately be an "average" one when the years have come and gone and we look back at the 2025 Draft with the power of hindsight.
 
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JadedRandom said:
And scoring isn't even the most impressive part of his game.

It's Desnoyers' all-around potential that tantalizes scouts and amateurs like me, his high-level work ethic/"pro attitude", and how he produces all that offense whilst not "cheating" defensively in the slightest.

I genuinely think that with good, positive development, Desnoyers could end up being a high-end matchup center with strong scoring abilities.

Which, to me, is a VERY important piece to grab for a team. Moreso considering that Desnoyers' floor is so high (besides injury) and that if he fails to develop much at all he'll still end up playing many NHL games as a third/fourth-line center, which is still an important part of a team's makeup.

While Desnoyers might not have "superstar potential" like some prospects in this year's draft, the fact that he could be a Sean Couturier type of player (only an example) for a team means that he should be drafted quite high in the draft, much more highly than open-source scouting services like Eliteprospects seem to think (their latest ranking puts him in the 15th spot).

If not, I'd be more than happy for my favorite team, the Canadiens, to draft someone like Desnoyers or Frondell in the teens at the draft. I kid, I wouldn't just "be more than happy"; I'd be freaking ecstatic if that happened.

I've already said it elsewhere, but I'd have Desnoyers 5th on my personal list right now and Frondell 6th (lower because of injuries despite IMO slightly-superior tools).

To better substantiate my point, I'd say that the trio of Desnoyers, Frondell, and Jackson Smith are the "consolation prizes" for teams that don't manage to draft top-4 this year.

Oh, and what I do see of this draft class does not at all correlate to the "weak draft past the top-4" general opinion that has made its way through HfBoards and some of the scouts.

I see tons of talent after the top-4, and personally think this draft will ultimately be an "average" one when the years have come and gone and we look back at the 2025 Draft with the power of hindsight.
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This. If Moncton makes it deep in the playoffs and possibly the Memorial Cup. He could really showcase his abilities (especially away from the puck) against the best from the other leagues. It would make it difficult for many NHL teams to pass up Desnoyers in the draft if he's successful.
 
Reddwit said:
Detroit probably picks somewhere around 5-10. He (along with Frondell) scream Detroit picks.
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Love Desnoyers, but offensive upside might not be the highest.

I see a bit of PLD in him (it is actually a compliment, loved PLD in his draft year).

After Kasper, Danielson... I would think they might go for a big offense player instead of another 2-way players, but 2-way Cs with size are great.

For the record, I think Desnoyers is way better than Kasper and Danielson.

Anyways, I think he ends up getting picked top 5-6 so Detroit will have to sink a bit more... And he's not Swedish, so Detroit will probably go for Frondell in the end if both are available.
 
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Kung Fu Tzu said:
He pretty much leads his league in scoring - and his team by a massive margin in his DY.

Thats very promising and impressive for a player not primarily know for his offensive upside!
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PLD was also a stud in the Q. Scored 42 goals and 99 points in 62 games and was drafted #3 OA.

I see similar offensive upside... Good 2-way C with size. 60-70 points.

Is that good enough for a #1 C? Not sure. Certainly a very good player.
 
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Bye Bye Blueston said:
A PLD who actually tries could be good enough for a #1C.
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Never believed he had elite offensive potential... I think 60-75 points always was his ceiling, but still, it is a very good 2C when he's on.

Not many players are real, no doubt, #1 C.

Celebrini, Hughes, Bedard, Matthews, etc. Not many available per draft.
 
Think if he hits his ceiling I'm he can be a Couturier type player when he was in his prime. Over a 70 point guy who can contend for Selke's with his 2 way play!
 
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Anaheim4ever said:
Sounds like a Anaheim Ducks pick. Seem to be picking QMJHL players in the first 3 rounds often.
Luneau, Hinds, Masse, Gaucher, Warren.
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It could happen depending on where Anaheim ends up at the draft.

But the way I see it, I think that with the guys they already have in their future core (Carlsson, Sennecke, Gauthier) that the Ducks would be looking for players that are less puck-reliant to create offense, that can bring a certain type of physicality while also being versatile offensive players.

McTavish kind of fills that role, and all of Gauthier, Carlsson, and Sennecke have the potential to be good off-puck players in the offensive zone in their own right. But all three tend to be puck-dominant and will want the puck on their sticks a lot.

Taken on his own, a guy like Desnoyers can fill any role you want him to offensively while also being a very good defensive player.

Except that offense isn't Desnoyers' strongest suit. That leads me to believe the Ducks, at this point in their rebuild, would rather take a guy with more offensive upside since they look to be set at center on the top two lines for the foreseeable future.

Which makes me think that Porter Martone could be a very good fit with the Anaheim Ducks.

Martone is an elite off-puck offensive player, the best in this year's draft. To add, Martone has some of the best ability to produce offense off of one-touch plays that I've ever seen in a prospect in more than 2 decades of being an armchair scout.

All of which to say that aside from a slight pace/consistency issue (that will most likely get better with development) and slightly sub-par defensive play, I think Martone would be pretty close to exactly what the Ducks need on offense.

I can see a world in which a team in the top-4 would elect to select a Caleb Desnoyers or Anton Frondell instead of Martone, and that fact could end up paying dividends for the team with the 5th pick, where the Ducks would currently be slated to draft.

Other players aside from the pretty-set top-4 that I think would interest the Ducks a lot are Roger McQueen (if medical issues are no cause for future concern), Jackson Smith, and Victor Eklund.
 
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JadedRandom said:
It could happen depending on where Anaheim ends up at the draft.

But the way I see it, I think that with the guys they already have in their future core (Carlsson, Sennecke, Gauthier) that the Ducks would be looking for players that are less puck-reliant to create offense, that can bring a certain type of physicality while also being versatile offensive players.

McTavish kind of fills that role, and all of Gauthier, Carlsson, and Sennecke have the potential to be good off-puck players in the offensive zone in their own right. But all three tend to be puck-dominant and will want the puck on their sticks a lot.

Taken on his own, a guy like Desnoyers can fill any role you want him to offensively while also being a very good defensive player.

Except thtat offense isn't Desnoyers' strongest suit. That leads me to believe the Ducks, at this point in their rebuild, would rather take a guy with more offensive upside since they look to be set at center on the top two lines for the foreseeable future.

Which makes me think that Porter Martone could be a very good fit with the Anaheim Ducks.

Martone is an elite off-puck offensive player, the best in this year's draft. To add, Martone has some of the best ability to produce offense off of one-touch plays that I've ever seen in a prospect in more than 2 decades of being an armchair scout.

All of which to say that aside from a slight pace/consistency issue (that will most likely get better with development) and slightly sub-par defensive play, I think Martone would be pretty close to exactly what the Ducks need on offense.

I can see a world in which a team in the top-4 would elect to select a Caleb Desnoyers or Anton Frondell instead of Martone, and that fact could end up paying dividends for the team with the 5th pick, where the Ducks would currently be slated to draft.

Other players aside from the pretty-set top-4 that I think would interest the Ducks a lot are Roger McQueen (if medical issues are no cause for future concern), Jackson Smith, and Victor Eklund.
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Martone is probably in the Ducks top 2 or 3 on their list, but unless they draft top 2 or maybe 3, he's probably gone. Schaefer is probably going 1. The Next 3 seem to be a toss up, but Desnoyers could fit the team. Assuming we're talking 3 seasons out, the team could look something like:
McTavish Carlsson Sennecke
Gauthier Zegras Colangelo
Vatrano Desnoyers Terry

Terry, Zegras, and Carlsson are guys that need the puck. It gives each of them their own line. If Desnoyers can be part of the PK match up with top lines, it could be a fit. This is assuming the Ducks draft around 5-6.
 
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