C Brad Lambert - HIFK U20, Jr. A SM-liiga (2022 Draft)

[ijuka]

You are seriously saying every finn that is top 3 should be 1 yet you have no knowledfe of those who rank higher currently that arent finnish. You act like you know every prospect and you claim your not biased. Smh..

So what do you think you're doing? You claim I'm biased, yet you yourself don't have "knowledge of those who rank higher currently", so how can you judge my opinions to be incorrect and biased? That's hypocrisy.

I don't have a lot of knowledge or material on Shane Wright, hence I've been focusing on Savoie. I've watched tons of Hughes, so who are you referring to here, exactly? Note I've avoided most discussion on Aatu Räty for a reason, as I've not watched him or anyone in the draft a whole lot. Here's a point:



Why was this person positively surprised of Lambert's play so far? Because I haven't been surprised at all(well, expected him to score a bit more, I guess). Why were people surprised about him making the team at such an age when I found it obvious? Why were people not expecting him to be a top 2 player for Finland? If they've assessed him correctly, how's any of this surprising? Why did one scout go from saying "my #3" to "my #2 or #3" after this? Why would he change his opinion on Lambert after such a short time if he'd assessed him correctly?

What do you think?

Now, if we could return to discussing the prospects instead of posters...

 

[Hockey Man]

i currently do have savoie at 1 with lambert close behind. i think that wright is the safest pick out of the 3 and doesn’t necessarily have the same offensive potential that lambert or savoie do. that being said it is still super early. i am biased as i live in the US and have seen savoie more than either lambert or wright.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Not allowed to discuss top prospects? I enjoy watching clips and stuff but when it gets infested with ijuka and Finnish fanboys blaming everything on North American bias and that he is the greatest player to ever touch the ice, it gets pretty ridiculous and annoying. Could be a good thread, but I can already tell its gonna get ruined eventually. And im not lumping all Fins into this category, some are awesome posters and I enjoy reading their stuff, but some are just clowns, and everyone knows which ones those are

Finns are better at annoying and trolling people than anyone else.

 

[bigdog16]

So what do you think you're doing? You claim I'm biased, yet you yourself don't have "knowledge of those who rank higher currently", so how can you judge my opinions to be incorrect and biased? That's hypocrisy.

I don't have a lot of knowledge or material on Shane Wright, hence I've been focusing on Savoie. I've watched tons of Hughes, so who are you referring to here, exactly? Note I've avoided most discussion on Aatu Räty for a reason, as I've not watched him or anyone in the draft a whole lot. Here's a point:



Why was this person positively surprised of Lambert's play so far? Because I haven't been surprised at all(well, expected him to score a bit more, I guess). Why were people surprised about him making the team at such an age when I found it obvious? Why were people not expecting him to be a top 2 player for Finland? If they've assessed him correctly, how's any of this surprising? Why did one scout go from saying "my #3" to "my #2 or #3" after this? Why would he change his opinion on Lambert after such a short time if he'd assessed him correctly?

What do you think?

Now, if we could return to discussing the prospects instead of posters...

haha and why do you judge everyone who disagrees with you as incorrect and bias? Lambert wouldn't have made Team Canada, its simple as that. Just because Lambert made an inferior team that's playing in the same tournament as Canada doesn't mean he is better than them. And also find a post where you say it was obvious he would make this team. You make s*** up as you go, its great

 

[kelsier]

I don't get it why people are so eager to jump over others' preferences especially when they are not absolutely unfounded. I don't feel I'm in position to rank the players as far as 2022 goes since I haven't watched enough of the Canadians. However I had Kakko first this year and it wasn't really even close (after watching the @Worlds). Yet I'm not jumping over the fans with an opposite view. Disagree if you will, but don't make it personal.

Lambert has the potential and his stocks are on the arise. If he can kick arse in the semis and at least stay on the radar in the finals - should they make it, I couldn't hope for much more (for now anyway). This tournament should be a huge boost for the confidence and it's exactly what he needs for the challenges that'll lie ahead around the corner.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I mean this is completely your opinion, but im excited to see your far fetched claims for the next 3 years

I’m not........

 

[QJL]

So what do you think you're doing? You claim I'm biased, yet you yourself don't have "knowledge of those who rank higher currently", so how can you judge my opinions to be incorrect and biased? That's hypocrisy.

I don't have a lot of knowledge or material on Shane Wright, hence I've been focusing on Savoie. I've watched tons of Hughes, so who are you referring to here, exactly? Note I've avoided most discussion on Aatu Räty for a reason, as I've not watched him or anyone in the draft a whole lot. Here's a point:



Why was this person positively surprised of Lambert's play so far? Because I haven't been surprised at all(well, expected him to score a bit more, I guess). Why were people surprised about him making the team at such an age when I found it obvious? Why were people not expecting him to be a top 2 player for Finland? If they've assessed him correctly, how's any of this surprising? Why did one scout go from saying "my #3" to "my #2 or #3" after this? Why would he change his opinion on Lambert after such a short time if he'd assessed him correctly?

What do you think?

Now, if we could return to discussing the prospects instead of posters...

Not every scout or poster on this board it’s as educated as you are on a 15 year old kid who is three drafts away. Have some humility and don’t treat everyone else like a moron for not being a Brad Lambert expert this early. You are making a thread miserable that should be full of nothing but positives.

 

[zharkenby]

Certainly, I think Kakko should have gone first and think that Lambert should be #1 at this point in time. I'm not denying that. However, I'm kind of curious about what's your MO. You've still not said your opinion or anything on Lambert, simply badmouthed me. In my opinion, being player-focused is quite a bit better than being poster-focused. You don't see me going to every Devils prospect thread calling you a homer when you call them good, do you? Traditionally, a prospect's own thread is one where you're expected to talk positively about them, is it not?

So did you actually have anything to counter anything I said, any opinions of your own to contribute to the conversation? Or did you just come here to drive-by flame me?

This person's not said anything about the prospect, though - only me.
Btw, you're fine.
Very sad that you'd actually like that post.

Whatever man, there's some really good Finnish posters on here and you're just making them look bad. You guys have had/have some great prospects coming up, just don't get why you need to push the 1OA thing so heavily when it clearly isn't going to happen (especially 3 years out...)

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think you can get an idea what caliber of player a prospect is this far out from the draft, but you can’t say where a prospect will go because almost no one has seen all the best 2022 draft eligibles play. A lot of people talk about Savoie, Wright and Lambert as the top three in 2022, and each probably has a good chance of being a top 3 pick, but there might be other players who are just as good that haven’t emerged into the mainstream yet.

I think two drafts out you can estimate it. Before that, it’s too early to be talking about definitive draft slots because it’s likely you won’t have seen enough to compare all the best players in that draft class. Only occasionally are there prospects that you can be pretty sure that there won’t be a player as good as them in that draft class because statistically there are very few players who emerge of that absolute top level. Even then, we see situations like 2004 where two of them emerge, so you can never be sure so early on.

I think within a few months, maybe halfway through the season to be doubly sure, you can put together an approximate draft list for 2021. For 2022, late 2020 or early 2021.

 

[Zub]

Whatever man, there's some really good Finnish posters on here and you're just making them look bad. You guys have had/have some great prospects coming up, just don't get why you need to push the 1OA thing so heavily when it clearly isn't going to happen (especially 3 years out...)

To be fair Raty is the favorite for the 1st OA at the moment in his draft.

 

[Zub]

I think you can get an idea what caliber of player a prospect is this far out from the draft, but you can’t say where a prospect will go because almost no one has seen all the best 2022 draft eligibles play. A lot of people talk about Savoie, Wright and Lambert as the top three in 2022, and each probably has a good chance of being a top 3 pick, but there might be other players who are just as good that haven’t emerged into the mainstream yet.

I think two drafts out you can estimate it. Before that, it’s too early to be talking about definitive draft slots because it’s likely you won’t have seen enough to compare all the best players in that draft class. Only occasionally are there prospects that you can be pretty sure that there won’t be a player as good as them in that draft class because statistically there are very few players who emerge of that absolute top level. Even then, we see situations like 2004 where two of them emerge, so you can never be sure so early on.

I think within a few months, maybe halfway through the season to be doubly sure, you can put together an approximate draft list for 2021. For 2022, late 2020 or early 2021.

Agreed. Well said.

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

Whatever man, there's some really good Finnish posters on here and you're just making them look bad. You guys have had/have some great prospects coming up, just don't get why you need to push the 1OA thing so heavily when it clearly isn't going to happen (especially 3 years out...)

What makes it clear it isn't going to happen? Currently, Lambert looks like the crown jewel of the recent surge of elite Finnish prospects, so to me its crazy discount him from the 1st overall race.

 

[Star Ocean]

Ijuka is the biggest finnish homer on this board.

 

[Nate070]

Not allowed to discuss top prospects? I enjoy watching clips and stuff but when it gets infested with ijuka and Finnish fanboys blaming everything on North American bias and that he is the greatest player to ever touch the ice, it gets pretty ridiculous and annoying. Could be a good thread, but I can already tell its gonna get ruined eventually. And im not lumping all Fins into this category, some are awesome posters and I enjoy reading their stuff, but some are just clowns, and everyone knows which ones those are

He was not discussing prospects. Infested?? Some ugly language there buddy. You are actually ruining it so take a hike

 

[Zub]

Ijuka is the biggest finnish homer on this board.

He is. Although Lambert could be 1st and you technically could argue that he should, it's still too early still. That's why it is so unneccecary to throw such far fetched assumptions. I can understand if a person has biased feelings but one can atleast try to not be so one sided that it's obvious for everyone..

 

[bigdog16]

He was not discussing prospects. Infested?? Some ugly language there buddy. You are actually ruining it so take a hike

You must be new to Finnish prospect threads. There are a couple Fins that ruin every single one. I mean ijuka has like 3 screen names he posts under Your right tho I should probably take a hike and not come back until like 2021, thx for the advice bud

 

[Nate070]

You must be new to Finnish prospect threads. There are a couple Fins that ruin every single one. I mean ijuka has like 3 screen names he posts under Your right tho I should probably take a hike and not come back until like 2021, thx for the advice bud

Well, if you are not here to discuss the actual prospect you should take a hike

 

[bigdog16]

Well, if you are not here to discuss the actual prospect you should take a hike

Ok dad

 

[ijuka]

He is. Although Lambert could be 1st and you technically could argue that he should, it's still too early still. That's why it is so unneccecary to throw such far fetched assumptions. I can understand if a person has biased feelings but one can atleast try to not be so one sided that it's obvious for everyone..

It's just as early for every other 2022-draft eligible prospect. I'd suggest you to read the initial post of mine on the topic.

I can assure you that there are far, far, far more Finnish prospects I dislike or don't care about than ones I like. I like 3 Finnish prospects and I'm the biggest homer on the site. Yikes.

I mean ijuka has like 3 screen names he posts under

I'd suggest you to stop saying garbage like this, by the way. I've only ever posted on this account.

 

[zharkenby]

What makes it clear it isn't going to happen? Currently, Lambert looks like the crown jewel of the recent surge of elite Finnish prospects, so to me its crazy discount him from the 1st overall race.

I think savoie is next level but that’s me. I also think Raty is a better prospect but admittedly haven’t watched much of either

 

[Daximus]

What makes it clear it isn't going to happen? Currently, Lambert looks like the crown jewel of the recent surge of elite Finnish prospects, so to me its crazy discount him from the 1st overall race.

He's definitely looking good but what people get upset about is saying he's better because he can make his Hlinka team, which is quite clearly inferior to Canada's. We didn't take McDavid to the Hlinka at 15, which tells you something.

 

[MaV]

Great, two pages of bs. Maybe there should be 2022 rankings thread for those interested in that.

IIHF - Lambert in lion’s clothing
Brad Lambert's interview by IIHF.

I think this is a good article, the quotes from Antti Miettinen hit it:

“His skating and his poise with the puck are pretty good – really good for someone his age. You can see the talent and he wants to score goals and points and make things happen on the ice, but at the same time, he’s a young boy and it’s only human that some of the defensive things and the structure isn’t there, but some of that will come later on."

Lambert has shown that he wants to and can backcheck which is a good sign. Also he has very high panic threshold with the puck in own end, the stickhandling and speed help with that. In these games he can get the puck of of the zone or to linemates safely. Not that he is more comfortable and scoring it seems like he is trying some more tricky things and might not be in the gameplan of the coaches. But it's not like there is no structure at all.

I like his vision on the ice. It helps that he skates with his head up and sees to ice. He isn't a offensive zone playmaker who is looking to create scoring chances for other, but he can find open players on fast situations which is a very good thing. I also like his passing skills, for example he has already made some good long backhand passes, which isn't easy or common at this level.

 

[Nate070]

Ok dad

Finally you acknowledged that i´m older and wiser than you my son

 

[Killerjas]

How crazy will it be if he gets Liiga games this year... He will have almost 3 years of playing against men... So excited how he will develop.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

It would be historic. Feels like a long time until he can play in the NHL. Maybe KHL before he's drafted?