C Berkly Catton - Spokane Chiefs, WHL (2024, 8th, SEA)

pgfan66

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What? Those guys aren’t the reason the line goes at all.

Also am I crazy or have people seen Benson’s speed numbers in the NHL? I saw a chart yesterday and hes in the slow poke quadrant a mile down. The dude is slow. But his edges are great and he’s so smart he makes it work.
You keep saying this, but neither of those players are within the top 10 of WHL scoring.
I’m not saying they’re the reason the line goes. But everyone’s acting like he’s playing with Jeremy Jerkface and Dan Dicklington when in reality he has two 20-year-olds on his wings, one of which is NHL drafted. They’re both very good players and particularly Roulette is as much a part of Catton’s success as Catton is a part of Roulette’s. Catton only has like five more points than Roulette too.
 

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I’m not saying they’re the reason the line goes. But everyone’s acting like he’s playing with Jeremy Jerkface and Dan Dicklington when in reality he has two 20-year-olds on his wings, one of which is NHL drafted. They’re both very good players and particularly Roulette is as much a part of Catton’s success as Catton is a part of Roulette’s. Catton only has like five more points than Roulette too.
Drafted and not signed. These players are products of Catton.
 

LeProspector

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I mean they’re fine junior players. Experienced too. They aren’t “as stacked as it can get” or whatever verbiage was used.
It’s a very good first line in the CHL. They’re two of the best overagers in the league.
 

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They're fine. Plenty of better first line wingers in the CHL. Overager or not. They have both been hovering around PPG for multiple WHL seasons and only until they play with Berkly in his D0 do they get above PPG.
That’s usually what happens when a 21 year old is playing against 16/17/18 year olds in the CHL. They have worlds more experience at the same level, and are physically more dominant. They aren’t products of Catton.
 

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That’s usually what happens when a 21 year old is playing against 16/17/18 year olds in the CHL. They have worlds more experience at the same level, and are physically more dominant. They aren’t products of Catton.
Well I disagree with your assessment when watching them but you're entitled to your opinion.
 

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They're fine. Plenty of better first line wingers in the CHL. Overager or not. They have both been hovering around PPG for multiple WHL seasons and only until they play with Berkly in his D0 do they get above PPG.
Unless he's on a team like Seattle was last year, his teammates will always be worse than him, considering he's a projected first-round pick. On many teams in the league, a PPG player is already the team's leading scorer. That won't hurt Catton's stock.
Conversely, if his Wingers were Cristall and Firkus, people would question if he relys on them for scoring.
 

pgfan66

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I mean they’re fine junior players. Experienced too. They aren’t “as stacked as it can get” or whatever verbiage was used.
You seem to have a funny understanding of how hockey works. Funk-Heidt-Parascak ist the best line in the WHL right now. I'm guessing the way you view things, Funk's success is purely a result of the other two but the fact that Funk has 40 goals in 37 games doesn't make Heidt and Parascak better? You know, because Funk is just a decent junior player but neither drafted nor signed in the NHL.
 

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You seem to have a funny understanding of how hockey works. Funk-Heidt-Parascak ist the best line in the WHL right now. I'm guessing the way you view things, Funk's success is purely a result of the other two but the fact that Funk has 40 goals in 37 games doesn't make Heidt and Parascak better? You know, because Funk is just a decent junior player but neither drafted nor signed in the NHL.
By your standards, Crosby, Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis could be a stacked NHL line. No, that isn't the case.

I'm not saying Catton is Crosby and I'm not saying they all don't benefit from each other. What I am saying is that they aren't anything special and the level of success they are having this year is due to Catton. He isn't carrying two idiots to success, but they aren't that talented of players. Saying "as stacked as it gets".. I mean no.

You're welcome to disagree. Its just my opinion after all.
 

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By your standards, Crosby, Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis could be a stacked NHL line. No, that isn't the case.

I'm not saying Catton is Crosby and I'm not saying they all don't benefit from each other. What I am saying is that they aren't anything special and the level of success they are having this year is due to Catton. He isn't carrying two idiots to success, but they aren't that talented of players. Saying "as stacked as it gets".. I mean no.

You're welcome to disagree. Its just my opinion after all.
I do disagree. Not because I care about either one of Roulette and Bertholet but because comparing them to Kunitz and Dupuis is ridiculous. Particularly Roulette is a fantastic junior player who's been above a point per game for 4 consecutive WHL seasons now. Bertholet probably comes close to what Kunitz and Dupuis were to Crosby.

For me, it's (or was, rather) Isogai-Geekie-Savoie and Funk-Heidt-Parascak as the two best lines in the league. I guess Firkus-Yager-Savoie or whatever will replace the Wenatchee line at the top there. But more importantly, Roulette-Catton-Bertholet is close behind.
 

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This kid has risen up my board.

Would it be crazy to take him at 3/4? Hell, even 2nd?
 

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I see some similarities, but I don't think he's exactly similar.

Hughes probably has more puck skill. I think Catton is a little taller, better defensively, and a better shooter.

I think Duchene is another player he has some similarities to. MacKinnon is the player I see the most stylistic comparisons to, but right vs. left and I don't know that I completely buy into comparing him exactly to MacKinnon either.

I think there's probably no great comparison for Catton.
 
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I see some similarities, but I don't think he's exactly similar.

Hughes probably has more puck skill. I think Catton is a little taller, better defensively, and a better shooter.

I think Duchene is another player he has some similarities to. MacKinnon is the player I see the most stylistic comparisons to, but right vs. left and I don't know that I completely buy into comparing him exactly to MacKinnon either.

I think there's probably no great comparison for Catton.
RNH?
 
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