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C Adrian Kempe (2014, 29th, LAK)

TheFatOne said:
Isn't he a little bit like Mika Zibanejad?

10 points in 37 SHL games...
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If you look at the stats from when Ziba was at the same age as Kempe, it's like exactly the same. In terms of playing style there are some similarities aswell: Same size, both of them play with power and speed, likes to play the physical game and drive towards the net. Add some skills, a two-way game and a heavy shot to that.
 
2MGoBlue2 said:
Seems to be flying under the radar, what's the scouting report on this guy? Color me... intrigued.
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In short: Physical tools (size, skating), decent skill level and heavy shot, above-average hockey IQ, and very good compete level. File it somewhere under "hard to play against".

Gets open as well as adept at finding an open man. Decent size that he knows how to use. Responsible in D-zone, helps defense out and presents an outlet if D is under pressure. Very good wheels, especially for a guy that's listed at 6'2 - both mobility, straight line speed as well as acceleration. Does not shy away from dirty areas at all, be it traffic or boardwork, in fact actively drives the net quite often. Heavy shot and decent hands. Even if offensive upside - while decent - might not scream top 10 pick by itself, I think he has such a pro tool-set that he might end up going higher than projected. At this point, you're looking at a guy that can slide up and down your line-up and contribute on any line in numerous ways. I'd take this guy on my team any day of the week.
 
nki said:
In short: Physical tools (size, skating), decent skill level and heavy shot, above-average hockey IQ, and very good compete level. File it somewhere under "hard to play against".

Gets open as well as adept at finding an open man. Decent size that he knows how to use. Responsible in D-zone, helps defense out and presents an outlet if D is under pressure. Very good wheels, especially for a guy that's listed at 6'2 - both mobility, straight line speed as well as acceleration. Does not shy away from dirty areas at all, be it traffic or boardwork, in fact actively drives the net quite often. Heavy shot and decent hands. Even if offensive upside - while decent - might not scream top 10 pick by itself, I think he has such a pro tool-set that he might end up going higher than projected. At this point, you're looking at a guy that can slide up and down your line-up and contribute on any line in numerous ways. I'd take this guy on my team any day of the week.
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Personally, I am more interested in hearing about players' flaws. What are some of those?
 
Circulartheory said:
Personally, I am more interested in hearing about players' flaws. What are some of those?
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I like Kempe precisely because he doesn't have any big-time apparent flaws. The biggest flaw I can think of is his ultimate offensive upside, you probably don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who might top out as a third liner. Also despite playing with men right now, Swedish league and big ice is still not as physically demanding as the NHL. Some of the things that he relies on and appear as strengths at the moment, might end up being just average at the NHL level, because his game is quite contingent on physical tools that could present a challenge once the physical game gets bumped up a notch at the NHL level.

My biggest concern for Kempe all in all is his ultimate upside, but I would love the pick if my team selected him, I think he is going to carve out some role and excel at it, even if it isn't in the top 6, it's still going to be a player that contributes positively. He will still need to develop of course, and if you really want me to take a look at the worst case scenario - it's the one where his progression stalls and he doesn't stand out in any way at the next level all things considered, but now we're really getting into putting someone under a negative microscope. I mean, he's just a prospect, it's certainly possible. But I like him a lot as a player, and I don't think that's going end up happening.
 
nki said:
I like Kempe precisely because he doesn't have any big-time apparent flaws. The biggest flaw I can think of is his ultimate offensive upside, you probably don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who might top out as a third liner. Also despite playing with men right now, Swedish league and big ice is still not as physically demanding as the NHL. Some of the things that he relies on and appear as strengths at the moment, might end up being just average at the NHL level, because his game is quite contingent on physical tools that could present a challenge once the physical game gets bumped up a notch at the NHL level.

My biggest concern for Kempe all in all is his ultimate upside, but I would love the pick if my team selected him, I think he is going to carve out some role and excel at it, even if it isn't in the top 6, it's still going to be a player that contributes positively. He will still need to develop of course, and if you really want me to take a look at the worst case scenario - it's the one where his progression stalls and he doesn't stand out in any way at the next level all things considered, but now we're really getting into putting someone under a negative microscope. I mean, he's just a prospect, it's certainly possible. But I like him a lot as a player, and I don't think that's going end up happening.
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He should head over to play in the CHL. In Modo he will be used in a defensive role because he's capable of doing that. He is a very good offensive player when playing against his own age group but is still too raw to be effective offensively in the SHL.
 
nki said:
I like Kempe precisely because he doesn't have any big-time apparent flaws. The biggest flaw I can think of is his ultimate offensive upside, you probably don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who might top out as a third liner. Also despite playing with men right now, Swedish league and big ice is still not as physically demanding as the NHL. Some of the things that he relies on and appear as strengths at the moment, might end up being just average at the NHL level, because his game is quite contingent on physical tools that could present a challenge once the physical game gets bumped up a notch at the NHL level.

My biggest concern for Kempe all in all is his ultimate upside, but I would love the pick if my team selected him, I think he is going to carve out some role and excel at it, even if it isn't in the top 6, it's still going to be a player that contributes positively. He will still need to develop of course, and if you really want me to take a look at the worst case scenario - it's the one where his progression stalls and he doesn't stand out in any way at the next level all things considered, but now we're really getting into putting someone under a negative microscope. I mean, he's just a prospect, it's certainly possible. But I like him a lot as a player, and I don't think that's going end up happening.
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That is untrue and a reason why many HFers goes bonkers when teams draft players like Kempe in the 1st round.
 
Circulartheory said:
That is untrue and a reason why many HFers goes bonkers when teams draft players like Kempe in the 1st round.
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I agree with you. Depends on the type of player though. It's one thing when you get some tweener that bounces around the league a lot and is basically just filler, and another thing entirely when you get a guy that really brings some asset and is a staple of someone's team even if it's on 3rd line, or playing 3rd line minutes. You're preaching to the choir here, I like Kempe a lot, I liked Lazar and Hartman a lot as well, Laughton prior to that, Philip Danault as well when he was selected... Just some of the guys that I'd be thrilled if my team selected them, even higher than where they went, obviously not all of them will turn out perfectly.
 
Huffman said:
A mean, more offensive oriented De la Rose.
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This. Both are big and strong forwards with a solid two-way game, and like you said Kempe is meaner and the better offensive prospect of the two. Kempe is also a better skater but there are some similarities, no doubt. I think Kempe is going to be drafted somewhere between 15 and 20 in the first round. Heard he's been excellent at u18 worlds so far.
 
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