C Adam Fantilli - (2023, 3rd, CBJ) Part 2

[theslatcher]

Šimon Nemec: Nastal najvyšší čas uspieť proti Kanade | Šport.sk

Proti zámorskému súperovi môžem ukázať, že mám na NHL, vraví obranca Šimon Nemec.

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Nemec being asked about him in a 2OA meeting potential 2OA question before the game, roughly translated:

We'll see if he goes 2nd. Leo Carlsson is pushing him, he plays as the top center for Sweden's team. It's hard to guess. It will be a great experience for him, even though he looks like a 35-year-old man.

 

[LastWordArmy]

Fantilli, born October 12th, 2004, in Toronto, Ontario, is a 6’2” and 187-pound forward in the NCAA. Playing as a true freshman in the University of Michigan, Fantilli has turned many heads. The young center has averaged nearly two points per game with Michigan. So far, he has posted 18 goals and 29 assists for 47 points in 25 games. Before this season, he played two seasons with the Chicago Steel of the USHL. Overall, he posted 55 goals and 55 assists for 110 points in 103 games with the Steel, where he won several awards, including the Clarke Cup as the Steel won the USHL title.

With the resume he has already built, which includes a recent gold medal with the U20 Canadian squad in the 2023 World Juniors, it’s clear he has earned a top spot in draft rankings. He is almost unanimously ranked second. In fact, all the following sites and experts have him ranked at number two: Elite Prospects, FCHockey, Daily Faceoff, The Hockey News, Bob McKenzie, McKeen’s Hockey, Craig Button, Recruit Scouting, DobberProspects, and Smaht Scouting. Only two notable sites or experts have him ranked lower, at third: SportsNet and Draft Prospects Hockey.

Adam Fantilli Scouting Report: 2023 NHL Draft #2

The 2023 NHL Draft is a loaded one. Among the top prospects is Adam Fantilli. What makes his game so special?

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[independent observer]

If Michkov and Bedard would not exist, would he be the most promising talent since McDavid?

 

[Ducks]

If Michkov and Bedard would not exist, would he be the most promising talent since McDavid?

He's in the conversation at the least, but I feel like Matthews would have gone ahead of him. That season in the Swiss National League A where he won rookie of the year was really impressive.

 

[Dominance]

He's in the conversation at the least, but I feel like Matthews would have gone ahead of him. That season in the Swiss National League A where he won rookie of the year was really impressive.

Bedard’s draft season is more impressive than McDavid’s, across the board. No GM is passing on that despite Matthews having an enormous size advantage, especially after seeing how they measure up against the same level of competition at the WJC.

 

[bigdog16]

Bedard’s draft season is more impressive than McDavid’s, across the board. No GM is passing on that despite Matthews having an enormous size advantage, especially after seeing how they measure up against the same level of competition at the WJC.

Did you mean more impressive than Matthews?

Because if so I 100% disagree. What Matthews did in his draft year was far more impressive than lighting up the WHL.

 

[majormajor]

Bedard’s draft season is more impressive than McDavid’s, across the board. No GM is passing on that despite Matthews having an enormous size advantage, especially after seeing how they measure up against the same level of competition at the WJC.

I don't agree with that, I think plenty of GMs, maybe even most, would have put Matthews ahead of Bedard. Junior competition and size always gets heavily discounted, even for the best.

 

[Ducks]

The original question was asking if Bedard and Michkov weren't included, would Fantilli be the most highly touted prospect since McDavid. I'm not sure why we're arguing about Matthews vs Bedard.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

The original question was asking if Bedard and Michkov weren't included, would Fantilli be the most highly touted prospect since McDavid. I'm not sure why we're arguing about Matthews vs Bedard.

The answer to your question is no. He's not more highly touted than the likes of Eichel, Matthews, or Hughes (just to name three).

 

[Ducks]

The answer to your question is no. He's not more highly touted than the likes of Eichel, Matthews, or Hughes (just to name three).

Agreed, although it wasn't my question.

 

[Hollel]

Agreed, although it wasn't my question.

Isn’t that literally an answer to your question??

 

[goonsaredumb]

Isn’t that literally an answer to your question??

he's saying the original person asking the question wasn't him (it wasn't it was independent observer)

 

[Antiillafire]

If Michkov and Bedard would not exist, would he be the most promising talent since McDavid?

What was he cooking ?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Blackhawks head scout, Mike Doneghey, says that Adam Fantilli (and Connor Bedard) is a generational prospect.

First time I've heard that from an official NHL head scout.

 

[peconcan]

He’s got nothing else to prove in college it’s time to go pro. Even if he can’t crack the Ducks lineup he’ll look fine in San Diego. It’s not like he’s from the CHL and it’s NHL or juniors

 

[Bonin21]

He would step right into the Ducks lineup.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Blackhawks head scout, Mike Doneghey, says that Adam Fantilli (and Connor Bedard) is a generational prospect.

First time I've heard that from an official NHL head scout.

Thats an interesting comment I wonder why he would say it publicly

 

[Kevin Musto]

Thats an interesting comment I wonder why he would say it publicly

He's been available to Blackhawks media this week so there have been a lot of interviews asking him about the draft and whatnot.

He was being open and honest when asked about prospects, and he said he views both Bedard and Fantilli as generational prospects.

Though he said Bedard is the only player in the draft that will (or should) be in the NHL next season.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

If Michkov and Bedard would not exist, would he be the most promising talent since McDavid?

No.

Dahlin is clearly ahead, Laf was ahead (despite his NHL shortcomings), Matthews was ahead, heck I think Laine and Hughes would give him a run for his money too.

As much as people want to constantly label the shiny new toys as the "best since x" Fantilli is a very good prospect who could be #1 in some years, but there's basically a prospect on his level every single year outside of years like 17' or 22' when the top prospect is a little below average

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Blackhawks head scout, Mike Doneghey, says that Adam Fantilli (and Connor Bedard) is a generational prospect.

First time I've heard that from an official NHL head scout.

So now we have 3 Generational prospects in 1 draft huh? I think I have heard the term been applied to: McDavid, Matthews, Dahlin, Lafreniere, Bedard, Michkov, and now apparently Fantilli.

If Fantilli is a "generational' prospect, what the heck does that make Bedard?? Super-generational? Because we have seen them play together and the gap is about a mile wide. I thought the term was supposed to apply to 1 player per generation, if Bedard is (clearly) so much better how can Fantilli also warrant the label?

Elite prospect and potential superstar? Absolutely. Generational? Absolutely not

He's been available to Blackhawks media this week so there have been a lot of interviews asking him about the draft and whatnot.

He was being open and honest when asked about prospects, and he said he views both Bedard and Fantilli as generational prospects.

Though he said Bedard is the only player in the draft that will (or should) be in the NHL next season.

That's pretty strange tbh, why would a "generational" prospect not be NHL-ready?

Crosby put up 100 pts, McDavid was 2nd in ppg, Bedard is unanimously NHL ready. He's contradicting himself and proving he doesn't actually believe Fantilli is generational, he's just not trying to brag about getting the pick and being humble for his own players' (Bedard) sake.

There is no way a generational prospect is not NHL ready at age 20

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Blackhawks head scout, Mike Doneghey, says that Adam Fantilli (and Connor Bedard) is a generational prospect.

First time I've heard that from an official NHL head scout.

That's a bit of a stretch.

Fantilli is a franchise-level prospect and a number-one in most drafts but he's not generational. Bedard is a clear tier above him and it's not even close.

This is of course as prospects and what we know right now. How they develop after is a different story but Fantilli is not on that level.

 

[Castle8130]

Our director of scouting was asked "How many generational players are in this years draft?"

His response: "I would say probably 2. Connor Bedard and Adam Fantilli are generational players. The other guys under consideration are really good pieces. Still yet to be determined how high their ceiling's are going to be, but just based off the past two years, the two guys at the top have the ability to be high-end and franchise changing players"

I think it's safe to say he uses "generational" similar to how people use the term "franchise"

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Our director of scouting was asked "How many generational players are in this years draft?"

His response: "I would say probably 2. Connor Bedard and Adam Fantilli are generational players. The other guys under consideration are really good pieces. Still yet to be determined how high their ceiling's are going to be, but just based off the past two years, the two guys at the top have the ability to be high-end and franchise changing players"

I think it's safe to say he uses "generational" similar to how people use the term "franchise"

So he's basically an Hf boards poster

 

[Rabid Ranger]

He's not generational but could certainly end up a franchise (i.e. #1) center.

 

[TLEH]

Its a throwaway comment