Bunting got 5 and a game for elbow to the head of Cernak (suspended 3 games)

GQS

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It was not accidental.
It was reckless if it was unintentional, and reckless behaviour is not accidental.

Aslo, Knies has played what 3 NHL games.
He is not a top 6 player and is completely wasted in the bottom 6.

How anyone can pin their hopes on a trial player in the playoffs is mind-numbing to me.
You have your interpretation of what happened during that play and I have my opinion on it. As I said the rear angles of the hit that I pointed out above clearly shows Cernak moving into Bunting all the way and it also shows that they were both probably looking and chasing the puck that had just past in front of them.

A 6'4 doesn't get clipped in the head by a 6'0 guy who barely left the ice at the moment of contact unless the taller guy is leaning down and gets hit. Cernak turned to his right to chase the puck and right into Bunting who was also looking to chase the puck.
 

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ROR is going to step up and bring the Leafs back into this. Suspending this guy for the series is the best thing that could have happened, now he can't do anymore harm this series.
 

Boss Man Hughes

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It was not accidental.
It was reckless if it was unintentional, and reckless behaviour is not accidental.

Aslo, Knies has played what 3 NHL games.
He is not a top 6 player and is completely wasted in the bottom 6.

How anyone can pin their hopes on a trial player in the playoffs is mind-numbing to me.
Knies has top 6 ability and is a far better player than anyone else that could be dressed
 

T REX

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Forget bunting...samsonov is the real issue.

Dude isn't playoff worthy
 

ClydeLee

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It was not accidental.
It was reckless if it was unintentional, and reckless behaviour is not accidental.

Aslo, Knies has played what 3 NHL games.
He is not a top 6 player and is completely wasted in the bottom 6.

How anyone can pin their hopes on a trial player in the playoffs is mind-numbing to me.
How is he a player wasted in the bottom 6. If the bottom 6 this day and age doesn't have a line that can also score and drive possession, you don't have a team build to go far in the playoffs.
 

PB37

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Should be one game, but because its the Leafs he'll probably get 3.

Cernak also embellished the hit, would not be surprised if he hurt himself on his dive

So all this was just ruse by that whacky and silly Cernak? Maybe someone should tell him that they fell for the gag and he doesn't have to continue it by sitting out tonight. What a kidder!
 

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It was clear retaliation by Bunting for what Cernak did earlier in the game, he just caught him harder and higher. It's definitely worth the 5+game and then DOPS can spin the wheel for 1-3 games.

What Cernak did earlier? That was equally on Bunting. He should not be seeking retaliation for that...

Bunting is simply less intelligent than we realized.
 

hatterson

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What Cernak did earlier? That was equally on Bunting. He should not be seeking retaliation for that...

Bunting is simply less intelligent than we realized.

Cernak clearly threw his shoulder into Bunting after the icing and rightly got a minor penalty for it.

Players turn back up the ice and get close dozens of times a game, it virtually never turns into anything because players usually don't push their shoulder to the other player like Cernak did.

He knows who is behind him and knows exactly what he's doing, he's likely doing it to try to get Bunting riled up and bait him into doing something stupid, which it seems he did.
 

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You have your interpretation of what happened during that play and I have my opinion on it. As I said the rear angles of the hit that I pointed out above clearly shows Cernak moving into Bunting all the way and it also shows that they were both probably looking and chasing the puck that had just past in front of them.

A 6'4 doesn't get clipped in the head by a 6'0 guy who barely left the ice at the moment of contact unless the taller guy is leaning down and gets hit. Cernak turned to his right to chase the puck and right into Bunting who was also looking to chase the puck.
So your still going with Cernak skated into his flying elbow.
 
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T REX

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Cernak clearly threw his shoulder into Bunting after the icing and rightly got a minor penalty for it.

Players turn back up the ice and get close dozens of times a game, it virtually never turns into anything because players usually don't push their shoulder to the other player like Cernak did.

He knows who is behind him and knows exactly what he's doing, he's likely doing it to try to get Bunting riled up and bait him into doing something stupid, which it seems he did.
Bunting dove...you're joking right? Wait till jeannot comes back. He's going to wreck bunting or whomever is stupid enough to go with him
 

Barrsy

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That's why there shouldn't be a suspension. It's a typical play that happens tons of times, Cernak was just unaware with head lower. In a contact sport, this stuff is going to happen. Reading these comments is embarrassing.
This is funny. Clearly coming from a pro wrestling fan that is new to ice hockey.
 

Barrsy

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So your still going with Cernak skated into his flying elbow.
Yes. Cernak purposely hammered his head into Buntings elbow.
My lord, Leafs have have more than their fair share of fans that are, ... well I cant say it.
 
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The point of contact of that hit looks like the upper arm. Elbow is a stretch. I would post a still shot of point of contact but I am still shots cant catch elbows.
I can't tell if it's just above the elbow or actually elbow, but either way he had to go out of his way to be 5'10 and catch a guy that's 6'4 in the head like that.
 

Dr Jan Itor

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If I had to guess, I'd say that it was an intentional hit that Bunting tried to make look accidental.

The immediate look around for an arm in the air is what tips it for me. Also the fact that Bunting has no reason to be going that direction at the time. The puck is already behind him to the right when contact as made.
 

hatterson

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Bunting dove...you're joking right? Wait till jeannot comes back. He's going to wreck bunting or whomever is stupid enough to go with him.
Bunting certainly embellished it, but it was clear Cernak did more than what 99% of players do in that situation.

This isn't some woe is bunting thing, he's gotta be way, way, way more intelligent in those situations. Cernak clearly knew what he was doing and was trying to get Bunting off his game because Bunting has a long history of being an idiot and it was worth the risk to throw him off his game.

That in no way excuses what Bunting did. As I said he rightly got 5+game and will get 1-3 games based on how DOPS spins the wheel. If anything, the fact that it's retaliatory increases the punishment.
 
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