Speculation: Building the Las Vegas squad using CapFriendly's tool
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Empoleon8771
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So is having Fleury as their starter all of a sudden not compensation? What the hell? Getting Fleury for cheap should be the compensation when someone is trading for Fleury, he's not Clarkson.
Oddbob
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Absolutely hilarious that anyone thinks Athanasiou isn't a guaranteed protected player.
Tkachuk4MVP
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Lot of contradictory opinions in this thread but one thing's for sure, this team's gonna be terrible.
Some Other Flame
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Capfriendly's quick protect has the Flames protecting Bouma/Shinkaruk/Jokipakka over Ferland/Brouwer/Brodie.
It's definitely got some bugs to work out
It seems to struggle most with the defence.
I did a quick protect and it left exposted:
Barrie, Faulk, Brodie, Jack Johnson, Dumba, Ellis.
Pretty sure if LV had a d core like that in their first year they wouldn't care who their forwards were.
Also Gibson was left exposed
serp
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Capfriendly's quick protect has the Flames protecting Bouma/Shinkaruk/Jokipakka over Ferland/Brouwer/Brodie.
It's definitely got some bugs to work out
Quick protect protects even UFA's who in many cases don't look like they'd be re-signed .
As of now it's pretty well understood jets fans say Wheeler, Scheifele, Little, Perreault, Buff, Myers, Trouba, Enstrom, Hellebuyck
uncleben
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It seems to struggle most with the defence.
I did a quick protect and it left exposted:
Barrie, Faulk, Brodie, Jack Johnson, Dumba, Ellis.
Pretty sure if LV had a d core like that in their first year they wouldn't care who their forwards were.
Also Gibson was left exposed
A lot of those are because of exposure requirements though.
For example, Barrie has to be exposed because Johnson and Beauchemin have NMC, and COL needs to expose a defenseman with a 2017-18 contract - none of Tyutin, Gelinas, Zadorov, Siemens, Wiercioch, Corbett, Stanton, or Clark have that, whereas Barrie does.
Shootertooter
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TSN did a segment yesterday on the expansion draft, I learned that teams need to have 3 forwards, 1 Defense and a 1 Goalie to expose with 2017 contract.
MTL has to give Montoya an extension or sign another goalie that makes the cut or Price will be exposed.
MTL has to give Montoya an extension or sign another goalie that makes the cut or Price will be exposed.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Really i see both Athanasiou and Mantha being protected, Unless Holland plans on trading one of them for an upgrade on D along with one of Nyquist/Tatar. AA would be traded before he's left unprotected.
I wouldn't be so sure about Perreault.
I've seen a lot Jets posters who prefer Armia. I'd even consider Dano over Perreault. More expensive and fragile
Aceboogie
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Ill wait till the end of season to say who will be protected in the draft. So much can change in remaining 60 games
For example for the Oilers if you were to ask me start last season if Davidson would be protected I would have laughed as he was an AHLer, end of season he was near top priority to protect. Now this season I would have laughed if you said Benning would make Davidson expendable as still chuckle at that. But who knows, if after next 60 games Benning progesses well and keeps it up, maybe that becomes true
Another example is Pitlick. I wasnt even sure hed get a QO this year. Now he has 6 goals and a staple in bottom 6. Does he take a protection spot if he keeps it up?
I am sure every team has those questions and much tougher options
For example for the Oilers if you were to ask me start last season if Davidson would be protected I would have laughed as he was an AHLer, end of season he was near top priority to protect. Now this season I would have laughed if you said Benning would make Davidson expendable as still chuckle at that. But who knows, if after next 60 games Benning progesses well and keeps it up, maybe that becomes true
Another example is Pitlick. I wasnt even sure hed get a QO this year. Now he has 6 goals and a staple in bottom 6. Does he take a protection spot if he keeps it up?
I am sure every team has those questions and much tougher options
Capfriendly's quick protect has the Flames protecting Bouma/Shinkaruk/Jokipakka over Ferland/Brouwer/Brodie.
It's definitely got some bugs to work out
All 3 of those guys were available, Brodie wasn't. Don't remember if Brouwer was.
It seems to struggle most with the defence.
I did a quick protect and it left exposted:
Barrie, Faulk, Brodie, Jack Johnson, Dumba, Ellis.
Pretty sure if LV had a d core like that in their first year they wouldn't care who their forwards were.
Also Gibson was left exposed
I saw JJ, Dumba and Scandella (meaning Minny will protect Spurgeon/Brodin/Suter). None of those other Dmen tho. I saw Zadorov for Colorado. The list they gave me was pretty reasonable tbh, i saw Matt Murray being available too but there's obviously no chance that Pittsburgh lets that happen. I saw Silfverberg, Cogliano and Manson for Anaheim.. by far the highest quality of players among any of the teams.
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Djp
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Are they a playoff team ....no
Terrible....no
If they do this right they should have a respectable team.
Teams only protecting 3 Dmen will have 1 of their top 4 exposed. It could be an older top pair exposed over the younger player.
With forwards you are looking at some 2nd/3rd line players exposed with the possibility of some younger talented players who have been slow to mature exposed.
In year one they are probably in the bottom 5 unless they actually go for high contract older players and could possibly compete.
The other option they could go is take some of these vet players with high contracts and have a respectable top 6 (along with 1-2 Ufa signings). Sane with defense maybe they take the experience 30 and older vet with 2 yrs left on their contract.
With this they can create a respectable top 8 forwards, top 4 Dmen, and starting goalie (MAF). That's just 13 players....17 other teams to pick from.. From those teams they target some of the waiver exempt players and make deals for prospects/picks to build a pipeline of futures.
Maybe as part of deals not to take player X on a team, they instead get y snd z who are both good pieces for short term and long term.
Did quick protect - I highly doubt quite a few of these players will be left unprotected.. Interesting results, especially on the back end.
Killorn Cammalleri Stone
Boedker Helm Silfverberg
Yakapov Lowry Read
Komarov Karlsson Pirri
Brodie Faulk
McNabb Barrie
Orlov Ellis
Murray
Subban
Ullmark
Extras:
Gaunce
Graovac
Pulock
Reinhart
Pateryn
Johns
Killorn Cammalleri Stone
Boedker Helm Silfverberg
Yakapov Lowry Read
Komarov Karlsson Pirri
Brodie Faulk
McNabb Barrie
Orlov Ellis
Murray
Subban
Ullmark
Extras:
Gaunce
Graovac
Pulock
Reinhart
Pateryn
Johns
It seems to struggle most with the defence.
I did a quick protect and it left exposted:
Barrie, Faulk, Brodie, Jack Johnson, Dumba, Ellis.
Pretty sure if LV had a d core like that in their first year they wouldn't care who their forwards were.
Also Gibson was left exposed
Well it is based on crowd sourced popularity, so it's the users that are struggling
BigHabs
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Dano Killorn Silfverberg
Jaskin Wilson Stempniak
Zucker Eller Pirri
Nolan Holland Roussel
ex. Riley Sheahan, Riley Nash, Markus Granlund, Nicolas Deslauriers
Johnson Dillon
Emelin Wideman
Zadorov Petrovic
ex. Ben Lovejoy, Trevor Van Riemsdyk, Brandon Davidson, Chris Wideman, Kevin Connauton
Fleury
Neuvirth
ex. Thomas Greiss
PROJECTED CAP HIT : $52,931,310
PROJECTED CAP SPACE : $20,068,690
Jaskin Wilson Stempniak
Zucker Eller Pirri
Nolan Holland Roussel
ex. Riley Sheahan, Riley Nash, Markus Granlund, Nicolas Deslauriers
Johnson Dillon
Emelin Wideman
Zadorov Petrovic
ex. Ben Lovejoy, Trevor Van Riemsdyk, Brandon Davidson, Chris Wideman, Kevin Connauton
Fleury
Neuvirth
ex. Thomas Greiss
PROJECTED CAP HIT : $52,931,310
PROJECTED CAP SPACE : $20,068,690
Number1RedWingsFan52
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I know player with NMC must be protected and players with NTC can be left unprotected but some like MAF have modified NTC in their contracts not sure how that goes.
