Post-Game Talk: Buffed - Jets 5 Sharks 4 (OT)

[grieves]

After one of the best road periods in a while, the team really hunkered down and said "let's go out there and **** around! Huuaaa!"

I was a bit scared for the first line in a road game against a big, skilled San Jose. For a good reason. It didn't go as badly as I expected luckily. Only quite bad. Laine was the strongest link, but even he had moments of poor play.

Buff and Wheeler having a competition of who gets the dumbest penalties. Wheeler goes for quantity and Buff with game-winning dumbness.

What I like most about this team currently is that all lines are scoring. The roster is much better chemistry-wise at the moment. Even losing Scheif and Lowry did not matter to bring us out of the losing streak before he went down, and we are winning very close to 3 out of 4 games currently. First line scored the GWG against Calgary and they were neutralized in this game, but the Jets don't care because we have tons of scoring from every line and PP.

It seems the only moments the Jets are in trouble are when they have some kind of internal implosion (like the Minnesota game).

How strong is this team when Chef and Lowry gets back and Maurice does not mess up the roster? Can't wait.

 

[Male75FromFinland]

Buff was not on the ice for any of our 4 regulation time goals for, and was on the ice for ALL 4 goals against.
So, beside the assist on the overtime goal, he had a terrible game.

And he was huge part of Sharks goal number 2,3 & 4.
Go ahead and watch all power plays that Jets had, what is one good thing Buff did.
Buff was on the ice for 4 goals against and he gave Sharks changes to easily double that amount.
He has tried that wrap around for million times causing many odd man rushes before and will do it in future. Even stopped clock is right twice a day

 

[Male75FromFinland]

So if Little wouldn't be there to finish his missed wrap-around there is a big chance he would be on the ice for all 5 goals and finish the night with -4. Yep not the worst player on a team

One goal against was Sharks power play with Buff on the ice and Enstrom sitting at the bench. Jets have had good penalty killing this season except the rare times Buff is replacing someone.

 

[Ducky10]

Buff was not on the ice for any of our 4 regulation time goals for, and was on the ice for ALL 4 goals against.
So, beside the assist on the overtime goal, he had a terrible game.

Funny how that can happen when you play over half the game, largely against the other teams best players. What an incomplete way to assess impact.

He took a bad penalty and made a few poor plays. He set up the winning goal by beating that pillar of excellence Brent Burns, but yeah let's just call it luck because it fits better.

 

[Ducky10]

And he was huge part of Sharks goal number 2,3 & 4.
Go ahead and watch all power plays that Jets had, what is one good thing Buff did.
Buff was on the ice for 4 goals against and he gave Sharks changes to easily double that amount.
He has tried that wrap around for million times causing many odd man rushes before and will do it in future. Even stopped clock is right twice a day

All the Jets PP? They probably played as much 4v4 as they did 5v4. Not liking Buff is fine, he is a polarizing player for sure, but the lengths you go to blame him for everything lacks a bit of balance, don't you think?

 

[Farmboy Patty]

And he was huge part of Sharks goal number 2,3 & 4.
Go ahead and watch all power plays that Jets had, what is one good thing Buff did.
Buff was on the ice for 4 goals against and he gave Sharks changes to easily double that amount.
He has tried that wrap around for million times causing many odd man rushes before and will do it in future. Even stopped clock is right twice a day

It is by now obvious that you don't like Buff. Please tell me, do you really think that he's to blame for all the goals against? It's not so strange that he was on the ice on our goals against when he played half the game against the oppositions top scorers. That one stupid penalty was really bad, but he redeemed himself in OT. Why are you downplaying his assist on the OT goal? It was a well executed play where he made Burns, their top D-man, look silly.

 

[Ducky10]

For all those pointing out how Buff's OT play was risky and could have resulted in a 2-1 the other way if he was unsuccessful, that's kind of how 3v3 works. Nobody is out there playing D, not really the point.

 

[King Woodballs]

For all those pointing out how Buff's OT play was risky and could have resulted in a 2-1 the other way if he was unsuccessful, that's kind of how 3v3 works. Nobody is out there playing D, not really the point.

Man.... finally someone says it.
This is 100% true.

 

[grieves]

I don't even know how to assess Buff. There is so much good and so much bad that it's tough to say where the average, as in his true value, is.

When Buff is playing strong D, he is really really good, but the next moment he is completely in the wrong place doing the wrong things.

His wrap-around rebound attempt we have seen before and it has worked before. No complaints about that play. Good on him for getting a bit of catharsis for probably the dumbest penalty on this team this year. Also, you don't hook people in the face anyway. If you wanna be cool like Fonzie, don't lose your cool. Fonzie doesn't lose his cool.

 

[Male75FromFinland]

It is by now obvious that you don't like Buff. Please tell me, do you really think that he's to blame for all the goals against? It's not so strange that he was on the ice on our goals against when he played half the game against the oppositions top scorers. That one stupid penalty was really bad, but he redeemed himself in OT. Why are you downplaying his assist on the OT goal? It was a well executed play where he made Burns, their top D-man, look silly.

For the Jets Trouba & Morrissey play against opponents top scorers, no fat buff is not responsible for all goals against. He should be responsible for all goals against that he is out of position or is losing battle that lead to goal, but he is not. He is not asset on power play, he is awful at penalty killing and even strength he allows regular scoring changes to opponents. Tonight when Sharks started to play physical he did not respond in any way. He did not redeem himself on overtime. He is taking changes all the time and sometimes that will result goals. We could have Thorburn playing buffs position and getting his ice time with taking changes all the time and we would have "defenseman" who would put up points.

This game would have ended in regulation time with Jets victory without Dustin Byfuglien, you can not argue that.

I have asked almost two years of ONE game with "good buff" no one has found single game yet.

Last season he played two good periods against Predators after close door meeting from Blake Wheeler. I was FIRST to wright about that Buff played two good periods!!!!

Another thing that amazes me is how Joel Armia still has not get change in top 6???

(he played extremely great two periods at top 6 in that gems when Scheifele got injured)

 

[PhilJets]

Great 2 points again!

1st Place again.

1 more win to be top in central during the all start break!!!

 

[Ducky10]

For the Jets Trouba & Morrissey play against opponents top scorers, no fat buff is not responsible for all goals against. He should be responsible for all goals against that he is out of position or is losing battle that lead to goal, but he is not. He is not asset on power play, he is awful at penalty killing and even strength he allows regular scoring changes to opponents. Tonight when Sharks started to play physical he did not respond in any way. He did not redeem himself on overtime. He is taking changes all the time and sometimes that will result goals. We could have Thorburn playing buffs position and getting his ice time with taking changes all the time and we would have "defenseman" who would put up points.

This game would have ended in regulation time with Jets victory without Dustin Byfuglien, you can not argue that.

Yes you can, if you are rational about it.

You're jumping the shark here, you can't expect this to be taken seriously..

 

[SensibleGuy]

29-13-7. 29-13-7! That is a string of numbers i’ve dreamed about in years past when we were desperately trying to put a little win streak together just to try and get into a wild card spot for even a few days. That is a big time series of numbers!

 

[TannedBum]

Can anyone tell me what Tanev was doing without his stick?

Same thing what he's doing with his stick. The stick doesn't really add anything to his game.

 

[ps241]

Watched the game delayed in Mexico and I have a few random thoughts.

What happened on the ceremonial puck drop/scoreboard that had all the players and Maurice smiling and smacking their sticks?

Why was the huge Finnish contingent at the game so pro Sharks?

That is the most enthusiastic I have seen the Jets team after a win that I can remember? Was it getting the OT monkey off their back or what?

AARonDell and Marc-Edouard Vlasic kill me but Beyak is still 100% better than Sportsnet....he has his quirks but he injects emotion into the game and like Bob Cole and Dusty Buff if you want to focus on the negatives they serve up allot of Red meat but they also do some things that are great.

Love seeing this team win in so many different ways....last night it was B Litts and Army while playing with 5 D men and no Scheif and Lowsy!!

Now and then it’s not us doing things wrong it’s the other team being just as good as us and doing things right. Both sides are getting paid and the Sharks are a dam good team.

Goalies both seemed decent but man there were some quirky bounces both ways that ended up in the net.

Was it just me or was the normally mild mannered Jumbo Joe snarly last night....he threw some really big hits and was jawing with Litts?? hope he isn’t too hurt.

Hearing some posters say they hate the Sharks. They have always been one of the teams I like and enjoy watching. They are the Baby Faces of the three Cali teams IMO.

Historically brutal building for us to win in so you take the two points and get the hell out of town.

This one felt pretty pretty dam good.

 

[suihkukone]

Another thing that amazes me is how Joel Armia still has not get change in top 6???

(he played extremely great two periods at top 6 in that gems when Scheifele got injured)

Yes, he should get a chance in the top line for a change, if only to get his offensive play going. I'm sure there's a true sniper there waiting to be rediscovered.
On the other hand he is needed where he is right now. I kinda miss the confidence of having Perreault and Armia in our 4th line.

 

[Male75FromFinland]

Yes, he should get a chance in the top line for a change, if only to get his offensive play going. I'm sure there's a true sniper there waiting to be rediscovered.
On the other hand he is needed where he is right now. I kinda miss the confidence of having Perreault and Armia in our 4th line.

I only had two typos in that one. I will correct my errors in overtime

 

[HannuJ]

I have asked almost two years of ONE game with "good buff" no one has found single game yet.

maybe it's because people are ignoring you and not the question you're asking?

 

[Neuf]

Entertaining. Wanted to smack a few Jets throughout the game. Roslovic is close. Got the Matthias flu?

 

[HannuJ]

Another thing that amazes me is how Joel Armia still has not get change in top 6???

(he played extremely great two periods at top 6 in that gems when Scheifele got injured)

i admit that you do have an interesting thought:post ratio. not that it's necessarily a positive...

Joel Armia is not a top 6 forward on this team. this really isn't up for debate. if you think he should take Wheeler, Ehlers, Connor (that's open for debate), Perreault or Laine's spots then I'm not sure what to tell you.

 

[AlphaLackey]

If you motivate idiot, you have a motivated idiot

 

[Jimby]

He needs to score soon to avoid becoming a Petan.

Entertaining. Wanted to smack a few Jets throughout the game. Roslovic is close. Got the Matthias flu?

 

[Maukkis]

CWL: Connor continues his string of mediocre-to-horrific performances. For some reason, his offense seems to have dried up, and the defensive side is not up there either. I like the line change Maurice made in the third; a bit of a message sent there, and an attempt to shake things up too. Wheeler... wow. He was practically a turnstile; the amount of defensive errors he made was too much. The two needless penalties did not help either. Laine did not seem too bad (aside from the 4-4 goal, which was an enormous mess from every Jet involved). However, 25% Corsi speaks volumes; he, along with his linemates, were utterly buried by the Sharks.

PLE: The polar opposite of the first line. Little with what was likely his best game of the season; two goals and an assist, along with a stellar performance all around the ice. Perreault continues to lead by example with his tenacity and effort, which amounted to a couple of scoring chances and two points. Ehlers was a step or two behind his linemates, especially in the third, but overall, quite good. They had a very decent game possession wise (>60% Corsi for all three).

TCA: Tanev seemed a bit better this time (compared to the Calgary game). Not that it means much, but an improvement is always a good thing, no? Copp had problems in his own zone at times, but other than that, quite good. With his two goals and reliable all-around play, Armia was one of our best forwards. Also, dominant in Corsi (72.2%).

RHD: OK, let's pull these rotten teeth out. Firstly, Roslovic... oh boy. He has looked very good as of late, and then this game happens. Too many mistakes and turnovers took place throughout the match. The promotion to the first line did not seem to help (quite the contrary, in fact; the play by Roslovic in the Sharks' fourth goal was a complete catastrophe). Dano was decent, although the second goal was mainly due to his misfortune (maybe a bad play by him, but not too egregious anyway). Hendricks f***ed up badly in the second goal too, but aside from that, not much to complain about either.


44-8: Trouba was insane. He showcased his offensive instincts by making some incredible plays and reads in the offensive end. Morrissey wasn't nearly as good, but I still found him to be decent; his "basic" performances are still more than passable, after all.

5-57: Kulikov with a horrendous turnover before... sigh.

TURNING HIS BACK TO THE FLYING BODY OF HERTL ALONG THE BOARDS. When do they learn? You are not supposed to put yourself in a vulnerable position at any time. An awful effort, even if it was a short one. Myers, on the other hand, was very good. He excelled on the PP.

39-33: What can I say that has not been said already? Buff was a rollercoaster. Some good, a bunch of bad. The only inexcusable "bad" was the penalty he took at the end. No matter what the crest or the name on the back is, nothing can ever justify that. However, the extent to which this witch hunt has gone is simply ridiculous. The first and fourth goals were due to team-wide breakdowns, and Buff was only a part of those and not the sole cause. The second goal had nothing to do with him, and the third one (PK) was screwed up by the pair of forwards, who ran into each other and left the shooter wide open. There were bad plays by Buff, but come on. He was not the only one who had a night to forget. Enstrom looked respectable.


37: The team did not give him too much support. I'd argue he had a good game in spite of conceding four times.


Definitely a performance far from ideal, but in general, it is encouraging to know that the team can win despite playing badly.

 

[Gurilla]

I rolled out of bed and picked up my phone fully expecting to be disappointed but seeing that we FINALLY won in OT has made my morning

 

[HannuJ]

also pleasantly surprised by the post-goal celebration. boy, the Jets seemed happy to have Little score that.
also curious if we've seen a Jets' dressing room look as close as this one has.