Post-Game Talk: buffalos @ RANGERS

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3 star who are they

  • Alexis Lafreniere

  • Mika Zibanejad

  • Filip Chytil

  • Igor Shesterkin

  • Artemi Panarin

  • Adam Fox

  • Chris Kreider

  • Kaapo Kakko

  • Ryan Lindgren

  • Ryan Reaves

  • Ryan Strome

  • Jacob Trouba

  • KAndre Miller

  • Patrick Nemeth

  • Jared Tinordi

  • Julien Gauthier

  • Kevin Rooney

  • Dryden Hunt

  • Barclay Goodrow


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So I was at the game last night, obviously was very disturbed by Tinordi's giveaway at the time. Today, I've calmed down, they won in the end...and now that I am perfectly calm and rational, I can see that that play by Tinordi was still one of the worst giveaway's I've ever seen and any competent NHL player would never allow that to happen.
 
If Mika joined the battle on the boards Fox wouldnt be able to make his elite play people are gushing over. Every one was doing exactly what needed to be done for that goal to happen. Change one thing and this game would go to OT. The winning goal was a great team effort all around.
Yeah it was an insanely great goal. Everything fit together perfectly. It did my heart good to see the joy on their faces.

It's funny how Buffalo shot themselves in the foot trying to stall - and that's what did them in. If they had just played normally likely it would have gone to OT.

Reminds me of a Rangers playoff game a few years back where McDonagh had the the puck in the corner and somehow the other team got it and scored with no time left. That was a heartbreaker.
 
So I was at the game last night, obviously was very disturbed by Tinordi's giveaway at the time. Today, I've calmed down, they won in the end...and now that I am perfectly calm and rational, I can see that that play by Tinordi was still one of the worst giveaway's I've ever seen and any competent NHL player would never allow that to happen.
Yeah - rather than go left, where no opponent was, he tried to be clever and looked stupid. Terrible play.
 
If Mika joined the battle on the boards Fox wouldnt be able to make his elite play people are gushing over. Every one was doing exactly what needed to be done for that goal to happen. Change one thing and this game would go to OT. The winning goal was a great team effort all around.

Mika not joining the board battle was the right move. He's where he should be, and Olafsson is checking him tight. Kreider is able to get the puck out of the scrum and swings it out. The puck DOES NOT head straight to Mika; it goes a little bit wide to his right.

Let's say Mika, instead of remaining stationary, reacts and makes the read on Kreider's pass. He activates away from Olafsson, goes to the puck. Then Fox would see that and drift to the net at a different angle and look for a pass from Mika. Mika would take Kreider's pass and sling it to Fox right away, and it would be Fox feeding Lindgren for the goal.

But it is Fox who makes the read. He gets to the puck, which would've been in no man's land in the low circle, because Mika remains where he is, doesn't really move. So Fox gets the puck before anyone else can react. Olafsson sees Fox with the puck and has to protect against a crossice pass from him to Lindgren and commits, goes down. He's out of the play now when the pass goes to Mika instead. Yeah, Mika is NOW in the right spot, in the right time.
 
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If Mika joined the battle on the boards Fox wouldnt be able to make his elite play people are gushing over. Every one was doing exactly what needed to be done for that goal to happen. Change one thing and this game would go to OT. The winning goal was a great team effort all around.
So Mika is a $68M decoy?

I will not agree with any of that. There was space that Fox moved to where I believe Mika should have been. If it was a 'set play' sure.

It's just more of the same from Mika. Passive, reactive and slothful play. It's why that line is struggling 5v5
 
So Mika is a $68M decoy?

He wasn't a decoy, he was exactly where you want him to be in that scenario.

AT best if he gets in down low, you have the reverse with Fox sliding into where Mika was and making the pass over to Lindgren, but I'm not really sure that you want the guy with the best shot on the team putting himself in a position where he CAN'T shoot, or at least where he can't shoot with a decent chance to score.

He sucked yesterday, but he didn't do anything wrong here.
 
Mika not joining the board battle was the right move. He's where he should be, and Olafsson is checking him tight. Kreider is able to get the puck out of the scrum and swings it out. The puck DOES NOT head straight to Mika; it goes a little bit wide to his right.

Let's say Mika, instead of remaining stationary, reacts and makes the read on Kreider's pass. He activates away from Olafsson, goes to the puck. Then Fox would see that and drift to the net at a different angle and look for a pass from Mika. Mika would take Kreider's pass and sling it to Fox right away, and it would be Fox feeding Lindgren for the goal.

But it is Fox who makes the read. He gets to the puck, which would've been in no man's land in the low circle, because Mika remains where he is, doesn't really move. He dishes it to Mika. Olafsson has to protect against a crossice pass from Fox to Lindgren and commits, goes down. He's out of the play now when the pass goes to Mika instead. Yeah, Mika is NOW in the right spot, in the right time.

Instead of imagining what 93 would do, let's admit Fox is a hockey puck genius. Unfair to demand/expect others play to his level, which is impossible and going to give you high blood pressure. Enjoy that he made the read and completed the play.

The entire line was awesome and played a part in that last sequence.
 
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The Mika/Gallant exchange is making mountains out of a mole hill imo. I like that they are both showing that intensity on the bench, and Mika getting a push from the coach will ultimately good for him and the team
 
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He wasn't a decoy, he was exactly where you want him to be in that scenario.

AT best if he gets in down low, you have the reverse with Fox sliding into where Mika was and making the pass over to Lindgren, but I'm not really sure that you want the guy with the best shot on the team putting himself in a position where he CAN'T shoot, or at least where he can't shoot with a decent chance to score.

He sucked yesterday, but he didn't do anything wrong here.
Maybe I have it out for the tofu floatin Mika but I still disagree.

There was more space he could have went to and could have been moving. Could have been harder to defend. He had no shot where he was because he was easily defended, standing stationary, watching the puck battle.

It worked out in this one instance because our defense dove in being there was no time left. That doesn't happen normally
 
Yeah it was an insanely great goal. Everything fit together perfectly. It did my heart good to see the joy on their faces.

It's funny how Buffalo shot themselves in the foot trying to stall - and that's what did them in. If they had just played normally likely it would have gone to OT.

Reminds me of a Rangers playoff game a few years back where McDonagh had the the puck in the corner and somehow the other team got it and scored with no time left. That was a heartbreaker.

mika was exactly where he should have been to create that goal. Sending a third guy behind the net with secs to spare would make no sense. My feeling is gallant wasn’t happy how long it took him to get back in the play rather he was barking at the refs. Goal almost doesn’t happen if that puck squirts out sooner and his head isn’t in the game.
 
Love what I am seeing from Kakko. 3+2 in his last 4 games. Hopefully he can build on this. Its not like he is flooding in prime chances, but I think that he is acting with a bit different swagger on the ice than we have seen before.
He and his line mates finally understand how to use each other and now there’s a bunch of space opened up for them since the other team needs to respect each player on the line for different reasons now.
 
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Instead of imagining what 93 would do, let's admit Fox is a hockey puck genius. Unfair to demand/expect others play to his level, which is impossible and going to give you high blood pressure. Enjoy that he made the read and completed the play.

The entire line was awesome and played a part in that last sequence.


I think this is the real point. Fox made a genius play. It's not criticizing Mika; he made a great pass to Lindgren. Some want to play devil's advocate or want to defend Mika with his part of the sequence. No scoring play materializes if Fox doesn't do what he did. Again, it's not a criticism of Mika.
 
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Love what I am seeing from Kakko. 3+2 in his last 4 games. Hopefully he can build on this. Its not like he is flooding in prime chances, but I think that he is acting with a bit different swagger on the ice than we have seen before.

He's had that swagger since training camp in my opinion (minus a game or two after coming back from being injured).

Just hasn't finished until now.
 
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You must have missed the hand-wringing about there being something wrong with him and his contract etc,.

My point is that Panarin would have to be playing a lot worse for me to be worried about him.

It's funny that Panarin was ever so slightly behind his normal output and people were piling on him.

Gauthier doesn't look terrible and people rave about how great he is.
Boogah boogah boogah hand-wringing
 
Missed the game and just watched the highlights. That Fox pass reminds me of the famous Jeter play, where he was nowhere near where any shortstop should ever be and tossed it to Posada.
 
Missed the game and just watched the highlights. That Fox pass reminds me of the famous Jeter play, where he was nowhere near where any shortstop should ever be and tossed it to Posada.

Yup, came to mind for me too.

That kreider pass attempt never gets through to Mika if he isn't there as there wasn't enough steam on it.
 
Missed the game and just watched the highlights. That Fox pass reminds me of the famous Jeter play, where he was nowhere near where any shortstop should ever be and tossed it to Posada.
He literally timed it to perfection
 
I've never seen a player get destroyed like this on a primary assist of a goal, especially such an important goal. Amazing.
"He succeeded wrong" is just about as classic as it gets for this place.

He's playing well defensively and has put up 15 points in 18 games. Yea, he's not scoring as much, okay, I'll give you that, and he was over a point per game when playing his best hockey in 19-20 season.

But to say he's "playing bad" or even lazy is just too much. The team is playing well and he's contributing to those wins. And I'm sure the scoring will come.
 
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