PatLaFontaineASMR
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That's what he was worth because of his contract situation. I guess it was insane if you want to completely ignore that aspect.People realized almost instantly how shit of a return Blais+2nd for Buchnevich is.
That's what he was worth because of his contract situation. I guess it was insane if you want to completely ignore that aspect.People realized almost instantly how shit of a return Blais+2nd for Buchnevich is.
I think Dumba gets more than that. You're kidding yourself if you think that's Fiala's value.That's what he was worth because of his contract situation. I guess it was insane if you want to completely ignore that aspect.
Ristolainen got more than Reinhart. Fiala will get more than Buch, but not the haul you're expecting.I think Dumba gets more than that. You're kidding yourself if you think that's Fiala's value.
Ristolainen is exactly why you don't take prior trades as the end all be all for "market value."Ristolainen got more than Reinhart. Fiala will get more than Buch, but not the haul you're expecting.
Peterka just had a year that anybody who drafts 2OA would be happy if that player (Slaf, Cooley) could match next year. Peterka is about as untouchable as it gets.Just to understand Peterkas value, he may have almost as much value as the 9th overall pick this draft.
I'd say his value is as high as 11th overall this draft, as low as 21st.
9th + 16th is too much for Fiala given the salary cap world and the fact that Buffalo has significant wing depth. 9th + 41st would be fair value for Buffalo but would necessitate secondary moves.
If Ottawa offers 7th overall plus a prospect with high 2nd round value that seems a fair trade for both sides.
Ristolainen is exactly why you don't take prior trades as the end all be all for "market value."
Probably not really fair to compare players just being drafted to a player in his D+2 year, but your point is well taken - If Matty Beniers (2OA last year) put up that season in the AHL this upcoming year, it would be a very solid season. (although some Kraken fans are expecting that in the NHL after his 9 points in 10 NHL games to close out this season, but there was a lot of puck luck, so I personally do not feel that is realistic).Peterka just had a year that anybody who drafts 2OA would be happy if that player (Slaf, Cooley) could match next year. Peterka is about as untouchable as it gets.
Third option: Guerin is enough of a hard ass that he will get what he wants in a trade.Who would win:
2 recent trades of similar players in identical contractual situations OR
the blind hope that you get substantially more
Those trades tell you something about the market. Sorry you don't like what it's saying. (I didn't care for it either when we traded Reinhart, but tough shit.)
Peterka just had a year that anybody who drafts 2OA would be happy if that player (Slaf, Cooley) could match next year. Peterka is about as untouchable as it gets.
Ristolainen is exactly why you don't take prior trades as the end all be all for "market value."
The Wild don’t have any cap dumps available and your proposed offer is less than even an offer sheet would return. It’s fine if you don’t want him but that isn’t even in the ball park.No interest in seeing Buffalo move the #9 pick, and especially no interest in seeing them move Peterka.
I’d be interested in Fiala but not at that price. I’d offer something like their late 1st (Florida) and someone like Ryan Johnson (recent 1st round pick) + maybe offer to take a cap dump (depending on contract length) as a sweetener if needed, to give Min some cap space.
Would possibly think about the VGK 1st (#16) instead of Florida’s but it would probably have to be an on the clock trade (depends who’s left on the board).
If another team can offer a better deal, that’s fine. No interest in entering a bidding war.
I wouldn't trade Fiala for what would be Minnesota's (Edit) 4th line center and a mid 1st in a meh draft.Swap Peterka for Mittelstadt (50% retained) and move the Pick to 16th.
You know less than nothing about mittelstadt, but that is ok, not many do.I wouldn't trade Fiala for a 4th line center and a mid 1st in a meh draft.
You know less than nothing about mittelstadt, but that is ok, not many do.
I predict your post is going to age quite poorly
It only feels like 4 years because of Covid....He turns 24 early next season and we've been hearing "this is the season Mittlestadt will prove everyone wrong" for like four years at this point.
Which center out of Hartman, Eriksson Ek, and Gaudreau is Mittelstadt better than? Go ahead.You know less than nothing about mittelstadt, but that is ok, not many do.
I predict your post is going to age quite poorly
Yes, us Minnesotans don't know anything about MittlestadtYou know less than nothing about mittelstadt, but that is ok, not many do.
I predict your post is going to age quite poorly
If Guerin were to do his due diligence and trade for Mittlestadt, you will be thrilled.Which center out of Hartman, Eriksson Ek, and Gaudreau is Mittelstadt better than? Go ahead.
I doubt it. But at least you admit Mittelstadt is a crappy center.If Guerin were to do his due diligence and trade for Mittlestadt, you will be thrilled.
He has a way of turning crappy centers into gold.