Buffalo Bills 2014 Draft: Rd1#4 WR Sammy Watkins; Rd2#44 C. Kouandjio; Stevie traded

[scooch151]

Sounds like the Bills also just signed Jimmy Gaines, LB-Miami (FL). ( https://twitter.com/ChrisYandle/status/465312733295284224 )

From Getzville, and graduated from Canisius HS.

 

[mgeise]

Do you guys think they'll keep three quarterbacks? With the way this roster is looking, they're going to want to keep extra guys at a couple positions. I expect them to keep at least nine offensive linemen (Glenn, Wood, Urbik, Kouandjio, Pears, Hairston, C. Williams, Legursky, Richardson) and six corners (Gilmore, McKelvin, Robey, Graham, Brooks, Cockrell), and those roster spots need to come from somewhere.

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Lost in the draft today, I wouldn't be surprised if Bryce Brown is starting soon. I wonder what the plan is at RB, trading Spiller soon would be prudent.

 

[Takeo]

Do you guys think they'll keep three quarterbacks? With the way this roster is looking, they're going to want to keep extra guys at a couple positions. I expect them to keep at least nine offensive linemen (Glenn, Wood, Urbik, Kouandjio, Pears, Hairston, C. Williams, Legursky, Richardson) and six corners (Gilmore, McKelvin, Robey, Graham, Brooks, Cockrell), and those roster spots need to come from somewhere.

8 or 9 offensive linemen, although Legursky and Pears could very easily be cut. Brooks is far from a given as well.

 

[Djp]

A "developmental guy" isn't going to be ready for 2 years, at the earliest....at which point they can take a more ready to play guy in the first round again. Or they can sign or make a trade (ala Bledsoe) for a more established guy.

OT, but if the Bills had the defense at the beginning of Bledsoe's tenure that they did at the end Bledsoe would have gotten the Bills to the playoffs - even if only for that first year.

It depends on what development they need. Some have a very good skill set but need the reps.

As for making the playoffs had Gailey not touched the defense and just fiocused on the offense they likely would have made the playoffs.

That a few late-round starting QB's have existed isn't a very good argument. It'd be like saying we needed a starting RT so we could just wait and take one in the 6th round because there have been a few 6th round RT starters. If QB really is a need then it should have been addressed in the first 3 rounds where good QB's come from. They didn't view it as a need. Taking one in the 5th round wouldn't have changed anything. It's clear they choose to believe in EJ, and that Thad is their back-up for the time being.

Tuel has no place on the roster, but he's not the back-up either. If your 3rd string QB is playing then you're ****ed.

I give Tuel the benefit of the doubt--he was a developmental player who needed some time.

Do you guys think they'll keep three quarterbacks? With the way this roster is looking, they're going to want to keep extra guys at a couple positions. I expect them to keep at least nine offensive linemen (Glenn, Wood, Urbik, Kouandjio, Pears, Hairston, C. Williams, Legursky, Richardson) and six corners (Gilmore, McKelvin, Robey, Graham, Brooks, Cockrell), and those roster spots need to come from somewhere.

Lets see what happens with the players. It will be interesting. I think you do need to keep a 3rd QB on the roster because there is little out there to sign as a free agent if an injury happens. I see them keeping 9, then one of the young ones they cut and try to PS him.

Lost in the draft today, I wouldn't be surprised if Bryce Brown is starting soon. I wonder what the plan is at RB, trading Spiller soon would be prudent.

Aquiring Brown doesnt mean trading Spiller. He can be insurance on Spiller and Jackson.

 

[Djp]

When will the league just move the HOF game to the fist weekend and have games with all other teams. The preasons games will be on Fri & Sat, ceremony on Sunday, another game Sunday night and then the HOF game is on Monday night.

 

[cramdizzl]

Lost in the draft today, I wouldn't be surprised if Bryce Brown is starting soon. I wonder what the plan is at RB, trading Spiller soon would be prudent.

Yeah, I'm sure they're going to try and trade Spiller after showing they're going all in for 2014...

 

[CrazyPsycho]

Yeah, I'm sure they're going to try and trade Spiller after showing they're going all in for 2014...

The Brown move is totally insurance against Spiller not re-signing. And the inevitable Spiller injury.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

The Brown move is totally insurance against Spiller not re-signing. And the inevitable Spiller injury.

And Jackson injury.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

2013 Packers
2012 49ers
2011 Broncos
2010 Steelers
2008 Patriots 11-5 with Cassel

Backup QB matters. Every QB matters. Jeff Tuel on an NFL roster is unacceptable.

The Packers division stunk and the Patriots too. I thought TeBow wasn't an injury replacement? Neither was Kaepernick.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

President/CEO Russ Brandon, GM Doug Whaley and head coach Doug Marrone wrap up the draft. <26:53>

President/CEO Russ Brandon, General Manager Doug Whaley and Head Coach Doug Marrone Draft Wrap-Up Press Conference

 

[SECRET SQUIRREL]

I agree with Jesus, a healthy Murray doesn't last until the 5th round so comparing him to other 5-7 round qbs is pointless. He could have sat as our 3rd qb this year and been our back up plan for when EJ flops. No way that 5th next year can land a player anywhere near Murray. I love what they have done this last year or so but it's gonna be all for not without a good qb and I'm sure we don't have one.

 

[Digable5]

Do you guys think they'll keep three quarterbacks? With the way this roster is looking, they're going to want to keep extra guys at a couple positions. I expect them to keep at least nine offensive linemen (Glenn, Wood, Urbik, Kouandjio, Pears, Hairston, C. Williams, Legursky, Richardson) and six corners (Gilmore, McKelvin, Robey, Graham, Brooks, Cockrell), and those roster spots need to come from somewhere.

Yes.

My preliminary roster has 3 QBs.

QB Manuel Lewis Dixon
RB Spiller Jackson Brown Dixon
FB Summers
WR1 Watkins Woods Easley
WR2 M. Williams Goodwin Hogan
TE Chandler Moeaki Smith Caussin
LT Glenn Hairston
LG C. Williams Richardson
C Wood Asper
RG Urbik
RT Kouandjio Pears

DE M. Williams Wynn
DT K. Williams Branch
DT Dareus Charles
DE Hughes Lawson
SLB Rivers Brown
MLB Spikes J. Smith
WLB Alonzo Johnson
CB1 Gilmore Robey B. Smith
CB2 McKelvin Cockrell
S1 A. Williams D. Williams
S2 Graham Searcy

 

[is the answer jesus]

I agree with Jesus, a healthy Murray doesn't last until the 5th round so comparing him to other 5-7 round qbs is pointless. He could have sat as our 3rd qb this year and been our back up plan for when EJ flops. No way that 5th next year can land a player anywhere near Murray. I love what they have done this last year or so but it's gonna be all for not without a good qb and I'm sure we don't have one.

I guess people just don't want to hear it. If EJ flops we'll trade for a guy/draft a guy who's completely unfamiliar with the offense and not miss a beat. How can that plan backfire? The analysis of 5-7 round qb's is meaningless for a couple reasons. As you said some of these guys slipped due to injury, the depth at the qb position was another reason (this may be the deepest draft at qb I've ever seen.). Some of these guys had 3rd to 4th round grades on them at minimum. And when you look at guys drafted in the 3rd and 4th rounds you see more talent emerging (Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, and Nick Foles) that's 3 in one draft alone. The bills dropped the ball by not snagging one of these guys and developing him (Tuel is useless and Lewis will never be anything more than a backup). I get the criticism though. No one likes a Debbie downer after your team just drafted a bunch of shiny new toys. I'm excited about a lot of these guys as well. I just wish the bills had some sort of legitimate*insurance for if/when Manuel flops.

 

[BananaSquad]

I agree with Jesus, a healthy Murray doesn't last until the 5th round so comparing him to other 5-7 round qbs is pointless. He could have sat as our 3rd qb this year and been our back up plan for when EJ flops. No way that 5th next year can land a player anywhere near Murray. I love what they have done this last year or so but it's gonna be all for not without a good qb and I'm sure we don't have one.

When EJ flops.... Come on guys have some faith.

 

[is the answer jesus]

When EJ flops.... Come on guys have some faith.

Trust me, I hope I'm wrong about Manuel because if I am, I think the Bills will be pretty good with all the talent they've amassed. I just don't see it...

 

[ZeroPT*]

I agree with Jesus, a healthy Murray doesn't last until the 5th round so comparing him to other 5-7 round qbs is pointless. He could have sat as our 3rd qb this year and been our back up plan for when EJ flops. No way that 5th next year can land a player anywhere near Murray. I love what they have done this last year or so but it's gonna be all for not without a good qb and I'm sure we don't have one.

of course you do

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Yeah, I'm sure they're going to try and trade Spiller after showing they're going all in for 2014...

I often hear this, but how are they going 'all-in'? I know the team is selling that, but Russ Brandon could polish poop and fans would buy it.

By dumping Stevie and Fitz, they're needlessly wasting ~$18M to the cap. The team would be better with both of them here. Along with not spending about $12M. They didn't sign any good FAs. They lost their best, really good FA. They traded up for a 20 year old WR they liked, which would have been easier if they just lost meaningless games. And they didn't address the QB position whatsoever.

 

[SundherDome]

I often hear this, but how are they going 'all-in'? I know the team is selling that, but Russ Brandon could polish poop and fans would buy it.

By dumping Stevie and Fitz, they're needlessly wasting ~$18M to the cap. The team would be better with both of them here. Along with not spending about $12M. They didn't sign any good FAs. They lost their best, really good FA. They traded up for a 20 year old WR they liked, which would have been easier if they just lost meaningless games. And they didn't address the QB position whatsoever.

What are you talking about ?

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Kiper and McShay didn't love our draft at all

 

[flyingpig]

What are you talking about ?

He wants continued mediocrity, which is what we had with Fitz and Stevie. Time for a re-vamp. Of course, it hinges on EJ taking the next step. He is not "the guy" and he is not "not the answer".....yet. Lets see what this season brings. This management team is not going to abandon EJ after a half season. Nor should they. I like that we were aggressive instead of conservative and afraid. That mode wasn't working. We are taking steps in the right direction.

 

[flyingpig]

Kiper and McShay didn't love our draft at all

Who cares. No one likes the value of the trade, but they all love the player.

 

[johnjm22]

I like what we've done in each of the last 3 drafts for the most part.

It just annoys me that we had to give up so much to select Watkins. That's the problem with being mediocre. I would have rather the team been terrible last year so that we could have drafted high without having to give up a 2015 1st.

 

[flyingpig]

Kiper and McShay didn't love our draft at all

Who cares. No one likes the value of the trade, but they all love the player.

 

[Zman5778]

Kiper and McShay didn't love our draft at all

They didn't love our draft last year either, or the year before. I place no stock in post-draft evaluations. Gotta give draft classes a good 2-3 years before really evaluating it.