Confirmed Trade: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel, c.'23 3rd for Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, c.'22 1st (Top10 protected), c.'23 2nd

[Ice Mammoth]

This is a complete surprise. Jack Eichel was traded to another team. I am absolutely convinced that none of the forum participants could have imagined this. Jack goes to Vegas. Another surprise.
One might assume Edmonton Oilers or Tampa Bay Lightning. Certainly not Vegas Golden Knights (or Calgary Flames, for example). I'm trying to make sense of what happened.

 

[nbwingsfan]

He's from the area going to a team with a brighter future than vegas

You guys have been saying you have a “bright future” for a decade now

Such an embarrassingly bad trade for Buffalo

 

[nyr2k2]

It's not a huge return and I wouldn't be happy with it if Eichel were a Ranger.

That said, with the situation being what it is, I guess the reality of getting much more than this was severely diminished.

I hope Eichel heals up and gets back to what he once was.

 

[Djp]

Ok so how the hell does this work under the cap once Max and Stone are back? I guess they are going with a "we will cross that bridge when we get to it" attitude.

Eichel doing a Kucherov/Kane and come back in playoffs.

 

[Hurricane Hugo]

I think Buffalo made out as best they could given the circumstances. Eichel in Vegas is gonna be wild though, hopefully his surgery is successful and he returns to form. But I really want to to see this work out for Buffalo. Such a shit situation, hopefully it turns out to be a plus instead.

 

[Extra Texture]

Man, finally the dam broke!

With all the uncertainty, that's a good package for Buffalo IMO. Maybe another first in 2023 would've been fairer. But Tuch is 25 so he can stick with their rebuild or be dealt at the deadline for a whole lot.

I'm just happy for Buffalo fans that the whole saga is over, and they can move on. Also, CapFriendly hasnt updated for this trade yet, but how the hell does this go down long term for VGK? They're going to be squeezed like crazy next year, right? Another Tampa situation where they have to lose depth over the summer and shed assets for nothing?

 

[Unspecified]

Vegas got fleeced here. They are pinning their hopes for NEXT season on someone coming back from back/neck surgery?

 

[Selanne00008]

What are the Sabres and Vegas cap #s like? Don't they both need to make adjustments now to get to the floor/ceiling?

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

At this point Buffalo was all about making the best of a bad situation.

They like their young guys, Granato has them playing for each other, and there are some nice pieces coming back. In Krebs and Tuch they may have just acquired 2/3rds of a good second line, plus picks.

With that said, the attention span here is like that of a gnat. Even if this year is a write off for Eichel, we have never seen him outside of an utterly cancerous situation and he was still a franchise center. I mean, a true superstar.

There are those who call him a part of the problem in Buffalo, and if so Buffalo has nobody to blame but themselves. You take a player who has been the best everywhere he has played since he was 3 years old, bring him to a franchise that literally quit on itself and ask him to be the saviour at 18? Yeah, shocking that it didn't work.

On Vegas (whom I f***ing hate btw as divisional opponent), he will have Pietro, Stone, Patches just to name a few. He won't get away with bullshit and he will learn.

If his neck gets back to a healthy enough level that he can trust his body, the Golden Knights have acquired a top 10 talent in the league.

Buffalo can be happy with what they received given the situation, but it was a terrible and botched situation.

Vegas is acquiring a superstar, with risk.

Interestingly, in losing yet another center man this year (and with Eichel out for 4 months minimum) the Golden Knights may have signed their own death warrant for this season. Fascinating and quite unprecedented in that it will make them worse in the short term, but possibly WAY better as soon as March of this season. If they stay within hailing distance of the playoffs, watch out.

As a Canucks fan, I can already see us being the plucky team that finds a way into the playoffs, only for Vegas to go 18-1 down the stretch to knock us out. Sigh.

 

[Bones Malone]

I'm sure they're OK. It was PR for their blog/pod and paid for by crowdfunding anyway. A bit of fan service so to say.
The overreaction it caused was always the target, not getting Eichel lol

What blog/pod?

 

[mr figgles]

More like they traded a $100 for a $20 (Tuch) and magic beans/lottery tickets (Krebs + likely late 1st). Ok, so let’s pretend it’s $100 for 3x $20.

Eichel is more like a $100 gift card you found in your sock drawer. It may or may not still be worth $100.

 

[beowulf]

Eichel doing a Kucherov/Kane and come back in playoffs.

That might work this season but not next season so someone will have to be moved again.

 

[CanadienShark]

He def did not it was Dach then Byram when he got hurt

Canada men's national junior ice hockey team - Wikipedia

Says both Byram and Cozens wore the C. I'm guessing home/away?

 

[Riddum]

Krebs is not some prosect, my man. Geez...

Kotkaniemi>Krebs

 

[Voight]

Vegas got a #1 center within 4 years of existing, meanwhile the Habs haven't one in over a decade

On the real tho, finally this is over with. I didn't know a GM could trade himself...

 

[eco's bones]

Congrats to Eichel and to Sabres fans finally having this behind them. Tuch and Krebs are very good pickups and another 1st in the strong ‘22 draft is a big deal too.

As a Rangers fan I pretty much wanted us out of it. I just didn’t see our cap not being an issue for years going forward.

 

[bigdog16]

Vegas got fleeced here. They are pinning their hopes for NEXT season on someone coming back from back/neck surgery?

You hope Krebs turns into half the player Eichel is, Tuch is a middle 6 forward, and the rest are magic beans.

There is no doubt Buff had better offers 5 months ago. Greedy

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

This is a worse trade than the Joe Thornton trade back in 2005.

VGK 1st may be in the 24 to 32 range.
VGK 3rd is likely in the 90s.
Tuch is looking like a 2nd liner in Vegas but will probably produce less in Buffalo.
Krebs is looking like a potential 2nd/3rd liner as well.

In a good season from Eichel he is likely to outproduce the combined totals of Tuch and Krebs. And the late 1st is a 58 to 70% of being a player, depending on position.

Also won't Buffalo be hit with a penalty for being under the cap after Eichel leaves? They'll have to trade for a bad contract or two just to hit that 61 million.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Where is this? Byram/Dach were captains last WjC.

It’s fake, they all just posed with fake jerseys on to steal credit from Dach and Byram.

 

[Voight]

This trade is so bad for the Sabres lmao

Thats what happens when a star wants out and you go into panic mode. Also when you have an inexperienced GM and an owner who gives no F's.

 

[AvroArrow]

This has the potential to be a top 5 worst trade of all time, what the actual f*** Buffalo ? Adams should be immediately fired and banned from everything hockey, I genuinely feel awful for the Sabres fans, this is f***ed.

 

[Sasso09]

Highway robbery, I find it very hard to believe Flyers couldn't beat that deal

 

[wraparound]

Eichel doing a Kucherov/Kane and come back in playoffs.

if Vegas makes up their lost ground without him.

 

[Jim Bob]

Team #Untouchable

 

[Voight]

Lehner is a dumpster fire. Not sure what Vegas was doing signing him long term.

MAF wasn't getting any younger and I'm guessing they figured they would keep Lehner instead of trying to find a #1 goalie elsewhere. Not always an easy task.