Bruins vs Isles

[Mess]

Lamoriello has done an amazing job identifying specific team needs, then finding the right players to fit. 12 forwards that star in their roles.

Pageau is a gem. Palmieri and Zajac have fit masterfully.

Since Lou acquired Pageau last year he has scored 11 goals 13 assists 24 points as NYI 3rd line centre in the last 2 playoffs and both Palmieri and Zajac scored in this deciding game with that being Palmieri 7th of the playoffs already.

NYIs now are competing in 2nd straight Final 4 and have won 6 playoff series over the past 3 years.

 

[fahad203]

People REALLY have a short term memory if they truly believe that Dubas and Shanny are the worst management team in Leafs history. Either that or many of these people weren't around during the Ballard years and beyond when bad decisions killed the Leafs and their prospect pool.

If you want to say that you believe that Dubas hasn't done a good job that's fine, but to say he's the worst? NOT EVEN CLOSE and you'd have to be nuts to think otherwise. I don't know about you, but I'm gonna rank the guy who signed both Clarkson and Phaneuf to big long term contracts as being WAY WORSE than anything Dubas has done to date.

Ballard years needs to be exempt in my opinion. He was just a nut case

As for Brian Burke and Dave Nonis, none of them had the talent to work with as Dubas did

Dubas was given 3 superstars in this league in Matthews Marner and Tavares

Randy Carlyle and Ron Wilson number 1 center was Tyler Bozak and Tim Connelly throwing a bit of Grabvo

Just not the same

 

[fahad203]

Since Lou acquired Pageau last year he has scored 11 goals 13 assists 24 points as NYI 3rd line centre in the last 2 playoffs and both Palmieri and Zajac scored in this deciding game with that being Palmieri 7th of the playoffs already.

NYIs now are competing in 2nd straight Final 4 and have won 6 playoff series over the past 3 years.

But but Lou is getting lucky. He has done nothing right. Leafs fans can't come to term their wonder boy isn't good as they thought he would be

Yeah made a lot of changes but none that he got right except for D it seems. But if ur coach suxks it doesn't matter. Our style and approach is flawed

 

[Trapper]

Ballard years needs to be exempt in my opinion. He was just a nut case

As for Brian Burke and Dave Nonis, none of them had the talent to work with as Dubas did

Dubas was given 3 superstars in this league in Matthews Marner and Tavares

Randy Carlyle and Ron Wilson number 1 center was Tyler Bozak and Tim Connelly throwing a bit of Grabvo

Just not the same

Lol Tim Connolly I forgot that one. Thanks for reminding me.
It was like a 6 on 4 for the other team when he was on the ice. Throw in Lebda the only guy who could be a -3 in a 9-3 win and you got a party.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Ballard years needs to be exempt in my opinion. He was just a nut case

As for Brian Burke and Dave Nonis, none of them had the talent to work with as Dubas did

Dubas was given 3 superstars in this league in Matthews Marner and Tavares

Randy Carlyle and Ron Wilson number 1 center was Tyler Bozak and Tim Connelly throwing a bit of Grabvo

Just not the same

I honestly believe 50% of us could've walked into this organization with the following lineup and loads of draft picks and cap space and won at least one playoff series. I truly believe this.

JVR Matthews Marner
Hyman Kadri Nylander
Marleau Bozak Brown
Martin Moore Komorov/Kapanen

Rielly Hainsey
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Polak

Andersen
McElhinney

 

[fahad203]

I honestly believe 50% of us could've walked into this organization with the following lineup and loads of draft picks and cap space and won at least one playoff series. I truly believe this.

JVR Matthews Marner
Hyman Kadri Nylander
Marleau Bozak Brown
Martin Moore Komorov/Kapanen

Rielly Hainsey
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Polak

Andersen
McElhinney

I have no problem losing to Washington and Boston. Strong teams and well coached

But Columbus and Habs with upgrading your D, better goalie and a player who just got you 46 goals is just an utter failure

Keefe needed to be fired during mid game

 

[horner]

I think that every spring, other team elevate their game when it matters most. Leafs, not so much........

Other teams are built for the playoffs.

Dubas has assembled a team of non hitters

The islanders targeted McAvoy ruthlessly
The islanders hammered Boston's defence and eventually broke them down

We can't and would never think of doing this Kerfoot, mik and engvall need I say more.

 

[hullsy47]

Other teams are built for the playoffs.

Dubas has assembled a team of non hitters

The islanders targeted McAvoy ruthlessly
The islanders hammered Boston's defence and eventually broke them down

We can't and would never think of doing this Kerfoot, mik and engvall need I say more.

The leafs won't be able to build a team like those because they had no salary restraints
Paul marner bent dubas over ,no way therse guys bend lou
He just has a proven record .
Marleau was a mistake but made to help youngsters
Zaitzev well he simply didn't deserve the contract he got

 

[hullsy47]

I have no problem losing to Washington and Boston. Strong teams and well coached

But Columbus and Habs with upgrading your D, better goalie and a player who just got you 46 goals is just an utter failure

Keefe needed to be fired during mid game

I still don't think MSLE BOARD has signed off 9n this year
There are too many rumblings of Larry Tannenbaum talking to hockey people outside the organization on their take if the leafs are any better

 

[Faltorvo]

I guess Tampa isn't a true hockey team then, because they don't resemble the Isles at all.

BAHAHAHAHAHAH Tbay is 10x tougher then us

 

[Faltorvo]

I wonder what’s in the water out there on Long Island for the eye of the tiger to happen soooo organically?

IDK,, maybe it was Lou sending a message to all of them by making Ladd and his bloated deal live in the AHL.

 

[Racer88]

Lou and his Islanders are showing what kind of a good team a good GM can build and we are still suffering under incompetent Shanny and Dubas with one embarrassment after another.
The real slap in the face is that the Islanders are doing it without the 11 million dollar anchor that is Tavares.

 

[Captain14]

I think that every spring, other team elevate their game when it matters most. Leafs, not so much........

Very true. There is no urgency in our game whatsoever! We don’t have that look in our eyes.

 

[DarkKnight]

It’s really the Leafiest thing imaginable that we can’t even fully enjoy the big bad Bruins getting owned, it had to be Lou. We’re cursed.

 

[Captain14]

You guys look at NYI tonight like they're the best team ever and exactly what we need to become but we're built more like a Tampa, Vegas, Colorado, high tempo, high octane offense. Get over the Islanders, they're built completely different than us.

We’re built like Vegas, Colorado and Tampa??
High octane, high tempo you say??
This actually made me chuckle.

 

[Bluelines]

The teams still in the playoffs deserve to be there, hard working, puck hunting, time and space limiting teams. Simply put good teams, made it to the final 4. Col/LV both excellent teams.

I hope NYI win, for one reason, their fans are amazing..... NEW YORK SAINTS!! NEW YORK SAINTS!! NEW YORK SAINTS!!

I'd probably hate them if we were playing the NYI. Imagine a fan base that supports their team... for a Leaf fan... this is an odd suggestion... and no, bitching and moaning for for 50 years is not support ...

 

[horner]

The leafs won't be able to build a team like those because they had no salary restraints
Paul marner bent dubas over ,no way therse guys bend lou
He just has a proven record .
Marleau was a mistake but made to help youngsters
Zaitzev well he simply didn't deserve the contract he got

They handed Mathews a contract while the previous you he sucked and he was injured and even before he signed his deal he wasn't that great.
We hadn't done anything .
It's not just Marner .
They also signed JT.
It's the Taveras contract that f***ed us. Now we are going to have to trade an exceptionale talent like Marner to build a team.
So sad
One of the best players in the league only the leafs can f*** this up

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Trotz is by far the best coach in the league, I have no idea how the islanders are doing what they are doing.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

This puck possession game is so overrated

Marner was unable to possess the puck the entire series. It seems important to me.

 

[rumman]

It’s really the Leafiest thing imaginable that we can’t even fully enjoy the big bad Bruins getting owned, it had to be Lou. We’re cursed.

Doesn’t bother me, that was a great series of playoff hockey, I throughly enjoyed it.

 

[Mess]

It’s really the Leafiest thing imaginable that we can’t even fully enjoy the big bad Bruins getting owned, it had to be Lou. We’re cursed.

The big bad Bruins our Leafs nemesis have beaten us 3 times now in this past decade in round #1.

However Leaf fans can live vicariously through our former GM success, as he shows our management team how to send them packing, and what it takes to exorcise those demons.

 

[seafoam]

Trotz is by far the best coach in the league, I have no idea how the islanders are doing what they are doing.

Lamoriello has been phenomenal at identifying the Trotz’s needs.

When the Islanders lost Tavares, Lamoirello re-signed Nelson at 6M per and orchestrated a sign & trade for Pageau at 5M per (same cap hit as Tavares).

Having these two smooth skating, complete 200 ft. game centers inbetween the ‘offensive dynamo’ Barzal and the ‘the unstoppable engine’ Cizikas gives Trotz exactly what he needs to fill in the roster of his lineup.

Not too mention they built size on the backend and made a great trade to replace the offense lost by Lee and center insurance with Zajac.

By all accounts, Barry and Lou have a special relationship and are very much on the same page. The moves they’ve made since joining reflects that. Everything has been done with a purpose…

 

[deprw]

Ballard years needs to be exempt in my opinion. He was just a nut case

As for Brian Burke and Dave Nonis, none of them had the talent to work with as Dubas did

Dubas was given 3 superstars in this league in Matthews Marner and Tavares

Randy Carlyle and Ron Wilson number 1 center was Tyler Bozak and Tim Connelly throwing a bit of Grabvo

Just not the same

You have to remember that was what Burke and Nonis sought after. Burke sold us retool not rebuild. He wanted to be smart and was over confident. You can't excuse them that way "they hadn't the talent", they could have had. Burke could have started the culture change that Shanahan started, but didn't seem that viable option. That way he could have lured some key UFAs and could have drafted talented players.

Burke was bad GM for us. Period. Though the irony that his old boys club and added toughness approach could have been winning recipe nowadays, since there are no referees in playoffs.

 

[fahad203]

You have to remember that was what Burke and Nonis sought after. Burke sold us retool not rebuild. He wanted to be smart and was over confident. You can't excuse them that way "they hadn't the talent", they could have had. Burke could have started the culture change that Shanahan started, but didn't seem that viable option. That way he could have lured some key UFAs and could have drafted talented players.

Burke was bad GM for us. Period. Though the irony that his old boys club and added toughness approach could have been winning recipe nowadays, since there are no referees in playoffs.

The problem is too extreme either side. Burke wanted everyone to be next Lucic and Dubas wants everyone to be next Datsyuk

Tempa is a perfect example of both.

 

[Kurtz]

I honestly believe 50% of us could've walked into this organization with the following lineup and loads of draft picks and cap space and won at least one playoff series. I truly believe this.

JVR Matthews Marner
Hyman Kadri Nylander
Marleau Bozak Brown
Martin Moore Komorov/Kapanen

Rielly Hainsey
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Polak

Andersen
McElhinney

You're not winning anything with that defense.